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Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining)

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Should we replace Bud now ? 58 games remaining for the Season

Yes, now . Just fire him
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Yes, but after the trade deadline
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No, he is the best we could have
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No, we are the No1 seed for 2 years, I trust him
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#101 » by BigO » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:21 am

JayMKE wrote:Should we? Yes. Will we? I doubt it, if Bud gets fired then Horst is next in crosshairs. Bud is a flawed system coach ala D’Antoni, if you’re a bad team Buds system can elevate you but their is a ceiling on how far you can go with a coach like that. The truly great coaches are always going to eat Bud’s lunch


Yes. Great comments. You summed his problem in a few sentences.

Bud will get replaced, but it will take one or two more years of this before the pressure builds. In the meantime, people will blame the Bucks bench (Lakers have no bench-only decent player is Harrell-Caruso, Matthews, Kuzma are garbage), Giannis, et al. Bud has taken the Bucks from mediocrity to contenders, but he is a one trick pony and you can't play checkers when the best coaches play chess.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#102 » by blazza18 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:26 am

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SupremeHustle wrote:No way they fire him during a short COVID season while he's implementing a new(ish) offense.


What's this new offense you speak of?


Giannis off-ball and setting screen. New(ish). 8-)


Bud also added a different location to a blue box at practice.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#103 » by Prez » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:29 am

BigO wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Should we? Yes. Will we? I doubt it, if Bud gets fired then Horst is next in crosshairs. Bud is a flawed system coach ala D’Antoni, if you’re a bad team Buds system can elevate you but their is a ceiling on how far you can go with a coach like that. The truly great coaches are always going to eat Bud’s lunch


Yes. Great comments. You summed his problem in a few sentences.

Bud will get replaced, but it will take one or two more years of this before the pressure builds. In the meantime, people will blame the Bucks bench (Lakers have no bench-only decent player is Harrell-Caruso, Matthews, Kuzma are garbage), Giannis, et al. Bud has taken the Bucks from mediocrity to contenders, but he is a one trick pony and you can't play checkers when the best coaches play chess.
Our bench **** blows dude. You can think Bud sucks (totally fair position) and also be honest about our bench. It sucks and it’s a real problem for this team, and those guys are getting wiped off the court in any meaningful playoff series.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#104 » by Fotis St » Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:53 am

I wish Bud quits, so we can part ways in peace.

Anyway, let's imagine that he is gone,
name some suitable Coaches even some swing for the fences options.

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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#105 » by TD75 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:08 am

IMO Bud should not have been the Bucks coach after the 2019-2020 season. Then the Bucks would have the time/opportunity to find a better coach.

As things are, the Bucks should finish the season with Bud and decide after the playoffs.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#106 » by Fotis St » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:28 am

Prez wrote:Our bench **** blows dude. You can think Bud sucks (totally fair position) and also be honest about our bench. It sucks and it’s a real problem for this team, and those guys are getting wiped off the court in any meaningful playoff series.


Yes, Prez you are right, but that doesn't change the fact that our coach is not coaching in game. In fact he is reaching at Kidd's level of stubborness.

For example, today, Donte,Brook,Pat,Augustin bricked everything... why doesn't give Nwora and Merrill some burn. Jesus, sub them in and heat check them, if they are hot, ride them, they are not get the vets back in.

He didn't challenge Giannis foul on Lebron which was a clear block.

At the end of the 3rd quarter 20 sec remaining and we can spent all the time, Khris & Jrue are on court and somehow Augustine brings the ball up and plays iso. He tried to create something dribbling but his handles didn't allow him to create anything for him or others.

Why does he let Giannis bring up the ball and playmake so often ? At the start of the game everything was working great, Giannis in the paint and Jrue doing his thing, scoring at will . Why did he let Giannis dominate the ball in the next 3 quarters ?

Every single game runs a weak lineup where our opponent score at will and we often lose our point differential and sometimes the lead. Today he subbed out at the same time Giannis and Jrue, letting only Khris on court.

Today at some point of the game can't remember the quarter cause I'm frustrated he was late at subbing Jrue in.

Anyway I am tired of whining every game about him, but it always hurt to see us losing. We raised from the asses as a Franchise and we expect to improve and make it to the Finals. It is really disappointing to fail to do so cause of some tweaks. We did the hard part , we should have be a better team than 2 years ago, but unfortunately we are not, maybe a bit, but not making the leap to be successful.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#107 » by JayMKE » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:50 am

Im not sure there is a coach down the tailpipe that I’m
that interested in. Would Becky Hammon be a better coach than Bud? I dunno, I am conspiratorial minded and think the league will definitely want her to succeed.

I don’t know if any of our assistants would coach the team way differently than Bud.

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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#108 » by DavidDunn21 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:35 am

Thanasis is one of the dirtiest, overly aggressive players I've seen. Do we imagine he is telling Giannis he is messing up by playing dumb, fouling players on reach in calls, fouling in the back court out of anger for seven years? Do we think he is telling his brother things that he himself doesn't do on the court?

But Thanasis plays as part of the deal. That's not really Bud's fault. That's Giannis' fault.

To a lesser extent it's the same with Pat. These are Giannis' guys.

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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#109 » by RiotPunch » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:18 am

DavidDunn21 wrote:But Thanasis plays as part of the deal.

Do you really believe that?
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#110 » by trwi7 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:22 am

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DavidDunn21 wrote:But Thanasis plays as part of the deal.

Do you really believe that?


Nobody knows for sure but it's the best explanation that anyone can come up with because there's no legitimate reason for him to get playing time other than 4th quarter minutes in blowouts.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#111 » by RiotPunch » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:09 am

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RiotPunch wrote:
DavidDunn21 wrote:But Thanasis plays as part of the deal.

Do you really believe that?


Nobody knows for sure but it's the best explanation that anyone can come up with because there's no legitimate reason for him to get playing time other than 4th quarter minutes in blowouts.

Does it not also stand to reason that Bud might just favor dudes who bust their ass in practice over dudes who don't, even if they are clearly less talented?

Not discounting the possibility, but I don't buy it.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#112 » by trwi7 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:17 am

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trwi7 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Do you really believe that?


Nobody knows for sure but it's the best explanation that anyone can come up with because there's no legitimate reason for him to get playing time other than 4th quarter minutes in blowouts.

Does it not also stand to reason that Bud might just favor dudes who bust their ass in practice over dudes who don't, even if they are clearly less talented?

Not discounting the possibility, but I don't buy it.


This would be a giant indictment on Bud, so using it as a reason kind of sucks.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#113 » by RiotPunch » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:22 am

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RiotPunch wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
Nobody knows for sure but it's the best explanation that anyone can come up with because there's no legitimate reason for him to get playing time other than 4th quarter minutes in blowouts.

Does it not also stand to reason that Bud might just favor dudes who bust their ass in practice over dudes who don't, even if they are clearly less talented?

Not discounting the possibility, but I don't buy it.


This would be a giant indictment on Bud, so using it as a reason kind of sucks.

Wait, why is a giant indictment on Bud such a sucky reason if it is reasonable?
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#114 » by trwi7 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:32 am

RiotPunch wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Does it not also stand to reason that Bud might just favor dudes who bust their ass in practice over dudes who don't, even if they are clearly less talented?

Not discounting the possibility, but I don't buy it.


This would be a giant indictment on Bud, so using it as a reason kind of sucks.

Wait, why is a giant indictment on Bud such a sucky reason if it is reasonable?


First, he's competing for playing time against guys who are low on talent (by NBA standards) and wouldn't be in the league if they weren't hard workers. Second, practice is just totally different during a pandemic so busting your ass in practice is sort of dumb right now. Like I'm not diving on the floor or bodying up on defense in practice this year. And the last and obviously most important reason is Thanasis **** sucks and Bud can see that or should see that during the games and using him for even a couple minutes in close games can be the difference in the game. Try someone like Craig or cut him out of the rotation and tighten it up more.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#115 » by RiotPunch » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:53 am

trwi7 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
This would be a giant indictment on Bud, so using it as a reason kind of sucks.

Wait, why is a giant indictment on Bud such a sucky reason if it is reasonable?


First, he's competing for playing time against guys who are low on talent (by NBA standards) and wouldn't be in the league if they weren't hard workers. Second, practice is just totally different during a pandemic so busting your ass in practice is sort of dumb right now. Like I'm not diving on the floor or bodying up on defense in practice this year. And the last and obviously most important reason is Thanasis **** sucks and Bud can see that or should see that during the games and using him for even a couple minutes in close games can be the difference in the game. Try someone like Craig or cut him out of the rotation and tighten it up more.

Bud has a circle of trust, and Thanasis is in it. I believe that more than the idea that Giannis negotiated meaningful playing time for his **** at basketball brother.

And yes, he **** sucks. My eyes burn watching him play.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#116 » by DavidDunn21 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:46 pm

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DavidDunn21 wrote:But Thanasis plays as part of the deal.

Do you really believe that?
Do I believe that we would've done anything a few months ago to get Giannis to resign?
We all believe that.

Do I believe that Giannis mother giving the final go ahead to stay in Milwaukee carried some weight?
Of course.

Do I think that our ownership are collectively a bunch of incompetent meddlers?
Yes.

Botched or not, does Thanasis' role in the Bogdanavic saga show his standing as a Giannis whisperer, go-between and fall guy when things didn't work?
To me it does.

It doesn't have to be in writing that he plays. This is just how business is done. Remember Pat was at that dinner also. This couldn't be allowed to become THE DECISION PART TWO. We all would've agreed to this. And now Thanasis and Pat get playing time and Craig doesn't and Giannis is playing dumb just like his brother. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#117 » by yannisk » Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:29 pm

DavidDunn21 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
DavidDunn21 wrote:But Thanasis plays as part of the deal.

Do you really believe that?
Do I believe that we would've done anything a few months ago to get Giannis to resign?
We all believe that.

Do I believe that Giannis mother giving the final go ahead to stay in Milwaukee carried some weight?
Of course.

Do I think that our ownership are collectively a bunch of incompetent meddlers?
Yes.

Botched or not, does Thanasis' role in the Bogdanavic saga show his standing as a Giannis whisperer, go-between and fall guy when things didn't work?
To me it does.

It doesn't have to be in writing that he plays. This is just how business is done. Remember Pat was at that dinner also. This couldn't be allowed to become THE DECISION PART TWO. We all would've agreed to this. And now Thanasis and Pat get playing time and Craig doesn't and Giannis is playing dumb just like his brother. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Pat well Pat is .... one of our best bench players (here i said it). This is not a compliment for Pat it is the reality of how terrible our bench is

as for Craig he was injured, I believe he will get Thanasis's minutes going forward. He is better than Thanasis, but I also I believe he is a limited player and as soon as he gets minutes all the board will complain
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#118 » by raferfenix » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:33 pm

Who are the top coaches available at the moment?

Other ideas for coaches who might be available this offseason?

I don't think we have addition by subtraction just getting rid of Bud.
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Post#119 » by HaroldinGMinor » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:44 pm

WE should replace Bud with an algorithm.
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Re: Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining) 

Post#120 » by JimmyTheKid » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:58 pm

DavidDunn21 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
DavidDunn21 wrote:But Thanasis plays as part of the deal.

Do you really believe that?
Do I believe that we would've done anything a few months ago to get Giannis to resign?
We all believe that.

Do I believe that Giannis mother giving the final go ahead to stay in Milwaukee carried some weight?
Of course.

Do I think that our ownership are collectively a bunch of incompetent meddlers?
Yes.

Botched or not, does Thanasis' role in the Bogdanavic saga show his standing as a Giannis whisperer, go-between and fall guy when things didn't work?
To me it does.

It doesn't have to be in writing that he plays. This is just how business is done. Remember Pat was at that dinner also. This couldn't be allowed to become THE DECISION PART TWO. We all would've agreed to this. And now Thanasis and Pat get playing time and Craig doesn't and Giannis is playing dumb just like his brother. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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No way. There is just no way Giannis and the organization had some sort wink-wink clause in the supermax to ensure his brother would get an allotment of meaningful minutes. I will never entertain that as a serious thought. And I didn't like the botched Pat deal but he's actually had a really nice season to date and at this point deserves to be part of the rotation.

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