PG Blazers: Another Loss

[paulpressey25]

I know we're not big fans of Doc Rivers around these parts but he's not as bad as the Bucks are playing. No way.

Khris Middleton is out of his Kobe/Mike-lite era and firmly into his Joe Ingles era. Embrace it, Khris. You'll stick around the league a lot longer.

Khris as Joe Ingles. Damn. Trademark it.

[blazza18]

Jimmy Haslam better open up his pocketbooks and get a real coach in here this offseason. Just wasting Giannis prime years with Doc coasting for a paycheck.

Good luck to the next coach trying to get through to this playing group.

There definitely needs to be roster tweaks, but I do think there is a group of solid players on this team that a better coach could be getting more out of right now.

I was being nice when I said playing group I meant just one person. Roster needs a major overhaul and a more modern coach would help a ton but only one player really matters.

[ShootingtheJ]

This team would be better right now with Jrue vs Dame. We wouldn’t be title contenders but we would be a better team. It’s time to figure a way out Horst. He needs to go

Good news is we can still trick a team into giving up value for Dame. No chance anyone would trade for present day Jrue.

I and’1 your first sentence. Your second is inaccurate, as Jrue now has more value by himself than Dame.

Jrue is averaging 12 ppg while shooting just 34% from 3. He's an albatross.

[ShootingtheJ]

It was at least cool having Dairy Bird back.

[ReasonablySober]

I thought if the team was .500ish around the trade deadline we'd be looking at a blowup. Think it might happen before then.

[randy84]

The Brook extension torpedoed the Bucks roster flexibility, which in turn torpedoed the Bucks ability to move off of Khris’ contract.

The big killer is Patty C's. Bucks are 6+ million over 2nd apron and his contract is $9 million and he is on the bench.

[MickeyDavis]

I thought if the team was .500ish around the trade deadline we'd be looking at a blowup. Think it might happen before then.

That would be ideal. The sooner the better

[randy84]

When it comes to the Bucks I think you need to be able to determine whether the issues lately are more talent or effort. If it's effort then there is less to worry about imo(playoffs usually bring out everyone's best effort). If it's talent, then we're toast because they have very few ways to improve the roster in any significant way. Thankfully, I think the issues are mostly effort based.

How would you rate the talent on this team? Beside Giannis, who are the next best players that you can count on night after night?

[BroncoBuck]

The Brook extension torpedoed the Bucks roster flexibility, which in turn torpedoed the Bucks ability to move off of Khris’ contract.

The big killer is Patty C's. Bucks are 6+ million over 2nd apron and his contract is $9 million and he is on the bench.

Khris has 2/65 on his deal
Brook is making 23 million

Pat could’ve easily been flipped or a good salary filler in a deal, but the new cap rules killed that for the most part. Khris and Brook are the **** sandwich and Pat is the bag of chips that comes with it.

[CharityStripe34]

The Brook extension torpedoed the Bucks roster flexibility, which in turn torpedoed the Bucks ability to move off of Khris’ contract.

Horrible move. Brook is a classy guy and reinvented himself but extending a 7 footer in his 30s after back surgery was bizarre.

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[randy84]

The Brook extension torpedoed the Bucks roster flexibility, which in turn torpedoed the Bucks ability to move off of Khris’ contract.

The big killer is Patty C's. Bucks are 6+ million over 2nd apron and his contract is $9 million and he is on the bench.

Khris has 2/65 on his deal
Brook is making 23 million

Pat could’ve easily been flipped or a good salary filler in a deal, but the new cap rules killed that for the most part. Khris and Brook are the **** sandwich and Pat is the bag of chips that comes with it.

A good GM would've realized how the new rules would affect trades and made some moves. Unfortunately, Horst's heart was in Detroit.

[MVP2110]

When it comes to the Bucks I think you need to be able to determine whether the issues lately are more talent or effort. If it's effort then there is less to worry about imo(playoffs usually bring out everyone's best effort). If it's talent, then we're toast because they have very few ways to improve the roster in any significant way. Thankfully, I think the issues are mostly effort based.

How would you rate the talent on this team? Beside Giannis, who are the next best players that you can count on night after night?

Depends on what you mean count on. On a superstar level, on a decent starter level, or on a role player level?

Dame was awesome last year in the playoffs, I trust his effort will be there when the games really matter. Brook is matchup dependent but in the right matchup is still very effective. Khris was awesome vs Indiana last year so I'm certainly not ready to write him off. I think AJ Green, Taurean Prince, & Gary Trent can be effective role players on a playoff team. My biggest worry is a matchup where Brook would struggle in because I don't really trust Bobby

[blazza18]

They gave Brook $40+ million the same offseason they signed a new coach who didn't want to play the defence that would make Brook valuable on the court. Real elite GM'ing from Jon Horst.

[Neuromancer56]

Jimmy **** Butler is not the answer. Come on now

Nah that's Iverson.

[rilamann]

I didn't watch the game tonight. But judging from the final score and the comments here the game went exactly how I thought. I don't need to see anymore at this point. I'll still watch the games but at a more casual level.

But yeah, Horst should face criminal charges for not doing a full re-build this past off-season.

Me and PP tried to warn them this past summer, but apparently the Buck's front office doesn't read Realgm....lol.

[tydett]

The Brook extension torpedoed the Bucks roster flexibility, which in turn torpedoed the Bucks ability to move off of Khris’ contract.

The big killer is Patty C's. Bucks are 6+ million over 2nd apron and his contract is $9 million and he is on the bench.

Assume the point of those two extensions was hoping to use the salary slot for trades. Now is the time., if they can...

[BroncoBuck]

They gave Brook $40+ million the same offseason they signed a new coach who didn't want to play the defence that would make Brook valuable on the court. Real elite GM'ing from Jon Horst.

GM Giannis bent the team over. Not only did they give Brook that deal, but they signed RoLo as a sweetener. The Bucks had two roster spots on an old ass team devoted to player’s brothers who were no longer NBA caliber players.

[WeMajor34]

When this team was playing well in November and December, I’m sure Horst and co thought they’d be able to make another small Pat Bev-esque trade with our spare parts and feel okay about our deadline business.

Even if we win a couple of games coming up, I have to believe that everyone organizationally is realizing that this iteration of the team won’t cut it. Big changes NEED to be made if we want to even sniff being a contending team.

We said similar things last year before the deadline. But I think it’s a bit different this year with some added continuity. The team used lack of continuity as a crutch/excuse last season. There’s not an opportunity to use those excuses this season.

If anything, despite some poor coaching at times, we’ve learned this team’s problems mainly lie in personnel decisions, or lack thereof.

[Matches Malone]

[fan230]

We had a big 3 (or 4 counting Lopez) in our championship team. Today we in truth have a big 1. That is the reality.