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Post#101 » by -Jragon- » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:51 pm

Frank Nova wrote:I’d hope we are shopping Delon Wright in trade talks and planning on opening up a roster spot for Ryan Rollins to convert full time. I like Jackson Jr as a defensive specialist and maybe he’ll become a 25mpg type of dude at some point but I like the prospect of Ryan Rollins being the best young all around talent on the roster and AJ Green a close 2nd….


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Post#102 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:57 pm

-Jragon- wrote:Delon is a disappointment... wonder what happened there


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Post#103 » by emunney » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:05 pm

I don't even consider AJ Green young at this point. He's just a clear rotation player and a phenomenal fit. He's 25. Not a prospect. Exciting to think that Rollins could be our 2nd best guard next year with all the current guys still on the roster. I've got visions of a mini-Jimmy Butler... but he's actually got a longer wingspan than Jimmy. Getting him signed for as long as possible should be our FO's top priority. Huge fan.
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Post#104 » by -Jragon- » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:09 pm

With Lavine.. he's been a part of the Bulls nice defense and his TS% is Durant-like... what am I not supposed to like about grabbing him? Seems like he can take all Bobby's minutes and some of Brook's.
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Post#105 » by BBallFreak » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:37 pm

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BBallFreak wrote:I can't speculate on the picks too much, though I would imagine Miami would expect a first. No source for that, just my gut.

I don't really see a need for Middleton as we have plenty on the wing right now with Herro, Jacquez, Robinson, Highsmith (who would move back to the perimeter with Portis and Jovic manning the four), Burks, and Larsson. I would hope we'd be able to flip him for an expiring or take on a bag contract ending at the same time for an asset.


Middleton is far superior to all those players, if healthy. The guy just averaged an efficient 25, 9, & 5 last postseason; which is close to prior postseasons. Herro averaged an inefficient 17/5/4. And I'd say Middleton's defense was OK, better than Herro's.

Can Middleton ever be that player again? I don't know (ankles seldom derail careers). That's why the Bucks would be trading him; for more assurance. Also, they could use the defensive upgrade w/ Dame & Brook (in certain match-ups) out there.

Conceding a 1st rd post-Giannis years, for a rental/old guy, is a deal-breaker though.

I've seen Middleton at his best. He's never been better than current Herro
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Post#106 » by humanrefutation » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:42 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
Bernman wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I can't speculate on the picks too much, though I would imagine Miami would expect a first. No source for that, just my gut.

I don't really see a need for Middleton as we have plenty on the wing right now with Herro, Jacquez, Robinson, Highsmith (who would move back to the perimeter with Portis and Jovic manning the four), Burks, and Larsson. I would hope we'd be able to flip him for an expiring or take on a bag contract ending at the same time for an asset.


Middleton is far superior to all those players, if healthy. The guy just averaged an efficient 25, 9, & 5 last postseason; which is close to prior postseasons. Herro averaged an inefficient 17/5/4. And I'd say Middleton's defense was OK, better than Herro's.

Can Middleton ever be that player again? I don't know (ankles seldom derail careers). That's why the Bucks would be trading him; for more assurance. Also, they could use the defensive upgrade w/ Dame & Brook (in certain match-ups) out there.

Conceding a 1st rd post-Giannis years, for a rental/old guy, is a deal-breaker though.

I've seen Middleton at his best. He's never been better than current Herro


:lol:

You obviously didn't watch Middleton very closely.
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Post#107 » by RiotPunch » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:44 pm

Peak Khris is a better and more valuable player than any version of Herro. Pretty easily.
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Post#108 » by Bernman » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:48 pm

BBallFreak wrote:I've seen Middleton at his best.


Apparently not. Let me know when Herro puts up comparable playoff stats to Tatum & Butler in recent seasons & is sometimes #1 in a series on a champ/contender. So far all Tyler has done is be a #1 on average teams and fade in the playoffs.

You're just proving Khris is one of the most underrated ever to do it.
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Post#110 » by JayMKE » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:09 pm

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Post#111 » by MiltownMadness » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:18 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
Bernman wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I can't speculate on the picks too much, though I would imagine Miami would expect a first. No source for that, just my gut.

I don't really see a need for Middleton as we have plenty on the wing right now with Herro, Jacquez, Robinson, Highsmith (who would move back to the perimeter with Portis and Jovic manning the four), Burks, and Larsson. I would hope we'd be able to flip him for an expiring or take on a bag contract ending at the same time for an asset.


Middleton is far superior to all those players, if healthy. The guy just averaged an efficient 25, 9, & 5 last postseason; which is close to prior postseasons. Herro averaged an inefficient 17/5/4. And I'd say Middleton's defense was OK, better than Herro's.

Can Middleton ever be that player again? I don't know (ankles seldom derail careers). That's why the Bucks would be trading him; for more assurance. Also, they could use the defensive upgrade w/ Dame & Brook (in certain match-ups) out there.

Conceding a 1st rd post-Giannis years, for a rental/old guy, is a deal-breaker though.

I've seen Middleton at his best. He's never been better than current Herro

Khris put up 25/6/5 in a finals series win lil pup.... Going into another teams forum and speaking INSANITY is quite the bold move :lol:
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Post#112 » by ReddoverKobe » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:21 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
Bernman wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I can't speculate on the picks too much, though I would imagine Miami would expect a first. No source for that, just my gut.

I don't really see a need for Middleton as we have plenty on the wing right now with Herro, Jacquez, Robinson, Highsmith (who would move back to the perimeter with Portis and Jovic manning the four), Burks, and Larsson. I would hope we'd be able to flip him for an expiring or take on a bag contract ending at the same time for an asset.


Middleton is far superior to all those players, if healthy. The guy just averaged an efficient 25, 9, & 5 last postseason; which is close to prior postseasons. Herro averaged an inefficient 17/5/4. And I'd say Middleton's defense was OK, better than Herro's.

Can Middleton ever be that player again? I don't know (ankles seldom derail careers). That's why the Bucks would be trading him; for more assurance. Also, they could use the defensive upgrade w/ Dame & Brook (in certain match-ups) out there.

Conceding a 1st rd post-Giannis years, for a rental/old guy, is a deal-breaker though.

I've seen Middleton at his best. He's never been better than current Herro


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Post#113 » by msiris » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:23 pm

JayMKE wrote:Almost one whole Jae Crowder
Most likely our former 2nd round picks.
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Post#114 » by BBallFreak » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:25 pm

Okay, if it helps I'll retract the statement, even though Herro is putting up similar stats FOR THE SEASON without someone like Giannis to play off of, but whatever. I'll concede the point.
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Post#115 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:04 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Okay, if it helps I'll retract the statement, even though Herro is putting up similar stats FOR THE SEASON without someone like Giannis to play off of, but whatever. I'll concede the point.

REGULAR SEASON. Come back when Herro is integral helping his team win the title and we'll concede he can sniff prime Middleton.

Anyway, this is the Bucks forum. Herro worship goes in the Heat forum.
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Post#116 » by MikeIsGood » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:16 pm

What an absolutely ridiculous discussion :lol: Middleton literally had a FIVE SEASON stretch putting up 20/6/5. Of course he put up more ppgz when he wasn't playing with a 30-a-game scorer.
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Post#117 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:30 pm

MiltownMadness wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
Bernman wrote:
Middleton is far superior to all those players, if healthy. The guy just averaged an efficient 25, 9, & 5 last postseason; which is close to prior postseasons. Herro averaged an inefficient 17/5/4. And I'd say Middleton's defense was OK, better than Herro's.

Can Middleton ever be that player again? I don't know (ankles seldom derail careers). That's why the Bucks would be trading him; for more assurance. Also, they could use the defensive upgrade w/ Dame & Brook (in certain match-ups) out there.

Conceding a 1st rd post-Giannis years, for a rental/old guy, is a deal-breaker though.

I've seen Middleton at his best. He's never been better than current Herro

Khris put up 25/6/5 in a finals series win lil pup.... Going into another teams forum and speaking INSANITY is quite the bold move :lol:



Forget Herro, Middleton has had numerous post season's better than " Playoff Jimmy".
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Post#118 » by BigO » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:31 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Okay, if it helps I'll retract the statement, even though Herro is putting up similar stats FOR THE SEASON without someone like Giannis to play off of, but whatever. I'll concede the point.



I watched Herro up close for three years playing AAU ball in Wisconsin and seen his growth. He's a phenomenal offensive talent, but at his peak he doesn't come close to the bball iq of Middleton. It's Middleton's greatest asset.

He also doesn't have the mid-range game Middleton has and at his peak Middleton was a very good defender (not so much anymore).

A healthy and high functioning Middleton is the key to the Bucks chances in winning a title. Butler would also be a difference maker if they traded Middleton. But I wouldn't give up much more.
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Post#119 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:35 pm

Still think we're approaching the Jimmy trade wrong. Should be Dame for Jimmy and picks. Who's the best PG that we can get for 3-1sts (2 from Miami, plus ours)? Needs to be someone with a salary we can handle, which is the tricky part.
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Post#120 » by blazza18 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:50 pm

Lavine is having a super efficient season lifting the Bulls to mediocrity. I think he *can* defend when motivated but wouldn't ask him to. If he was 25 instead of 29 and less injury prone I'd be keen honestly.
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