PG Sixers - Bucks Roll Without Connaughton

[stillgotgame]

Good win. Lots of positive performances. Sadly, Brook continues to have his least impactful stretch as a Buck. We look much more energetic on both sides with Brook off

I wonder if his back is acting up or something

Brook had 15/8 and 2 blocks. He was good today.

24 minutes is just right for Brook. Less is more.
A 4 big rotation would be ideal with Kuz or Sims occupying the 4th spot. Sounds good anyway.

[randy84]

The thing about injuries is that while we can say that overuse/fatigue makes injury more likely in a general sense, and that, logically, you're more likely to get injured while playing if you're playing more, we can't say that playing Giannis more caused his injury. His belief is wrong but it would also be wrong to change that belief based on one injury. He should change it, unrelatedly, due to the assembled evidence.

Risk of non-contact injuries is a quotient of player conditioning divided by load.

We all know Giannis has no problem with the former.

Hard to believe there's any possible doubt that Giannis's injury last year was greatly influenced by load, especially his load in the weeks leading up to it.

Let's not get pedantic. I think we all know that if a player has a conditioning of five and a load of five, they have a risk of 1.

You are correct!

[-Jragon-]

Arguing over which of our nice supporting role players should start is a nice problem... 1st world problems.. all these dudes are pretty interchangeable to me.. but I did note that Green was like +30

[theFireBlanket]

So many narratives so little time.

Dame doesn’t work with Giannis

Nurse <<< Doc

Embiid = empty stats

GTJ > Kobe

And one of them looks like they are breaking down.

Chronic adductor/ achilles/calf Time?

[Bernman]

Green isnt close to being a better overall player thsn trent n his D isnt that much if at all better than trents

Green's defensive rating this yr w/ the Bucks - 108.5. Last yr it was 110.5, on a worse defensive team.

Trent's this yr is 114.3. That's a big difference (higher is bad). Last yr it was 118.2 w/ the Raps. His #'s at PDX were: 115.7, 115.1, 113.6. By comparison, Pat's were 105.9, 103.5. That's a gulf. Pat's still put up a marginally better # than Trent this yr.

It's evident Trent's defense is sub-standard for a starter next to Dame & we couldn't afford it w/out a SF who can guard down like Herb Jones. His right role on this team is 6th-7th man, who you play more on a particular night if he's on at both ends.

Ajax's right role is situational defender/rebounder, if nobody else can do the job. That's out of the rotation.

Rollins is a good defender, but unreliable overall, & I don't know if you can trust him in the playoffs. Backup or spot minutes.

Green, w/ experience last yr, is probably the best option we have ATM. It's unideal. Entirely possible the starter isn't on the roster yet. We got Beverly off the scrap heap last season & he started. This year it could be someone like another Green, Javonte.

[MiltownMadness]

I think our best lineup could be

Dame
AJG
Prince
Kuzma
Giannis

I don't like Prince but he is a necessary evil here due to our lack of wings. This lineup is very versatile. Bobby has also been playing very good but he just can't defend like Kuz

[tedbrogen]

Echoing what’s been said about Kuz. So refreshing to have someone attack rebounds, take charges, and cut when off the ball. Dame got mismatches several times because Kuz would screen and then sprint to the hoop so the Sixers had to switch immediately. When Brook sets those same screens and just stands there, teams just trap Dame and will live with Brook taking 27 footers. Another reason to play Brook less.

Kuz certainly takes some awful shots, if he can just stop taking the ones with more than five seconds left on the shot clock, that’s all you can ask. He was moving the ball as soon as he got it if he didn’t have a lane to the hoop, most of the time.

[-Jragon-]

Echoing what’s been said about Kuz. So refreshing to have someone attack rebounds, take charges, and cut when off the ball. Dame got mismatches several times because Kuz would screen and then sprint to the hoop so the Sixers had to switch immediately. When Brook sets those same screens and just stands there, teams just trap Dame and will live with Brook taking 27 footers. Another reason to play Brook less.

Kuz certainly takes some awful shots, if he can just stop taking the ones with more than five seconds left on the shot clock, that’s all you can ask. He was moving the ball as soon as he got it if he didn’t have a lane to the hoop, most of the time.

Good post.. we look a different speed.. especially not having Brook and Bobby on at the same time.

[old skool]

I think it would be a waste to have all of the best offensive players in the starting lineup. Giannis and Lillard are ball dominant scorers. I would prefer to have Ajax or another less skilled scorer get minutes playing with the two superstars and bring in bench firepower when one of GA or DL rests and there are more shots available for the "others".

Then, the time for the best 5 man unit is to close the game.

I think the Bucks should strive to get more shot attempts for Green, and that is most likely to occur when both stars are not on the court together.

[old skool]

I was impressed with Kuzma's floor game. 8 rebounds and 5 assists is useful.

A front court of Giannis, Portis and Kuzma would provide size, energy and flexibility on both ends. It might also hide some of Portis' defensive vulnerabilities.

Plus, an expanded front court rotation could allow a minutes reduction for Giannis and Lopez, who have looked gassed as of late.

A back court rotation of Lillard, Green, Trent and a little Ajax and Rollins would provide shooting and defense as needed.

That leaves Prince, Connaughton, and maybe Porter?, Sims? for emergency use.

Rollins might be left off the playoff roster if the Bucks feel he won't be needed. Not sure if he is better left on a 2-way, or converted to a full contract. There might be some roster flexibility impacts for this summer.

[Badgerlander]

Kuz is having a similar affect as Khris did on opposing defenses and its going to bubble up everyones fg% as there are more open shots as Kuz occupies a better defender on the opposing team. We finally have have shooting depth at every position. In the past all of our shooters were pg sized like Forbes playing sg or sf. Pat at 6’5” having to play PF trying to get their shot off against longer defenders. Khris or Kuz playing SF with PF size creates a mismatch.

[ShootingtheJ]

Rollins might be left off the playoff roster if the Bucks feel he won't be needed. Not sure if he is better left on a 2-way, or converted to a full contract. There might be some roster flexibility impacts for this summer.

Now that the Bucks are under the 2nd apron, I think that allows them to use the tMLE to sign Rollins to a 3 or 4 year deal.

[Daver]

Rollins might be left off the playoff roster if the Bucks feel he won't be needed. Not sure if he is better left on a 2-way, or converted to a full contract. There might be some roster flexibility impacts for this summer.

Now that the Bucks are under the 2nd apron, I think that allows them to use the tMLE to sign Rollins to a 3 or 4 year deal.

Question is other than a few very pro rollins people does the majority want rollins signed to a 3 or 4 year deal.Just asking to me he seems like meh juat another dude

[ShootingtheJ]

Rollins might be left off the playoff roster if the Bucks feel he won't be needed. Not sure if he is better left on a 2-way, or converted to a full contract. There might be some roster flexibility impacts for this summer.

Now that the Bucks are under the 2nd apron, I think that allows them to use the tMLE to sign Rollins to a 3 or 4 year deal.

Question is other than a few very pro rollins people does the majority want rollins signed to a 3 or 4 year deal.Just asking to me he seems like meh juat another dude

I'd assume it would have non guaranteed years, so I don't see the risk. Easy replacement for Trent, he's just as good.

[jimmybones]

I really think things are going to open up when teams try to trap dame at half court and the ball goes to KPJ rather than prince.

Prince tries his best, and sometimes he’ll get all the way to rim, but more often than not the advantage dies almost immediately.

KPJ who is hard enough to stay in front of when you’re already in proper position should feast off a rotating defense with a man advantage. Get down hill fast and the defense will be hurting.

I think you mean Kuzma, and that really really stood out to me watching yesterday's game. Dame's gravity out to the logo and Giannis's gravity near the rim should open up a lot of the middle of the court and Kuzma was really good passing out to shooters from that spot yesterday. And that was without Giannis opening up more of the floor cutting to the rim, or simply existing.

Dame's range deep, shooters in each corner, Giannis in the dunker spot and Kuzma in the Draymond high post/free throw line facilitator mode is going to be a fun set. Kuzma is not the same as Khris in that he can initiate offense from the get go but he was really good passing from the middle of the floor and I think we need to maximize that

[Daver]

Now that the Bucks are under the 2nd apron, I think that allows them to use the tMLE to sign Rollins to a 3 or 4 year deal.

Question is other than a few very pro rollins people does the majority want rollins signed to a 3 or 4 year deal.Just asking to me he seems like meh juat another dude

I'd assume it would have non guaranteed years, so I don't see the risk. Easy replacement for Trent, he's just as good.

Dude you are whacked or on a some form of a illegal substannce if you think rollins is as good as trent.Wth are you on.How insulting to trent.Hes way way way better than rollins n theres not a stat you show me that will tell me anything different.
JFC dude did trent kill your dog or something steal your gf .

[German Athens]

I really think things are going to open up when teams try to trap dame at half court and the ball goes to KPJ rather than prince.

Prince tries his best, and sometimes he’ll get all the way to rim, but more often than not the advantage dies almost immediately.

KPJ who is hard enough to stay in front of when you’re already in proper position should feast off a rotating defense with a man advantage. Get down hill fast and the defense will be hurting.

I think you mean Kuzma, and that really really stood out to me watching yesterday's game. Dame's gravity out to the logo and Giannis's gravity near the rim should open up a lot of the middle of the court and Kuzma was really good passing out to shooters from that spot yesterday. And that was without Giannis opening up more of the floor cutting to the rim, or simply existing.

Dame's range deep, shooters in each corner, Giannis in the dunker spot and Kuzma in the Draymond high post/free throw line facilitator mode is going to be a fun set. Kuzma is not the same as Khris in that he can initiate offense from the get go but he was really good passing from the middle of the floor and I think we need to maximize that

No, I meant KPJ, but I did really like what I saw from Kuzma, too. He worked as the screen and roller a good chunk yesterday, and was actively rolling hard on a lot of slips.

I liked Kuzma’s urgency, and it’s refreshing having someone his size be able to move like him outside Giannis.

The KPJ piece would be as the third guy. In the scenario above, Kuzma comes to set the screen and slips to roll hard, if Dame can’t find Kuzma right away then he’ll pass to the above the break outlet. A lot of times that’s Prince or Trent, but neither of those guys have the ball handling/size/athleticism to capitalize on the rotating defense unless they are already open from 3. I think KPJ could help a lot here.


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[Ron Swanson]

Pros: Kuzma really does have elite tier role-player potential and I'm starting to see the vision. Maybe it's just refreshing having a 6'9 dude who can move his feet and do athletic tweener stuff, but it opens up so much more defensive flexibility for us when we have another PF type body like him.

Cons: He's an even worse shot-creator/finisher than I expected. I honestly have no clue how he was able to put up 20+ for two consecutive seasons even at sub-average efficiency. He's an underrated passer/dribbler and can attack a closeout adequately enough, but it's an adventure every time he tries to shoot it off the bounce. That's where we're gonna miss Khris the most, cuz I already don't have much faith that you can rely on Kuz to be any sort of consistent playoff scorer.

[ShootingtheJ]

Question is other than a few very pro rollins people does the majority want rollins signed to a 3 or 4 year deal.Just asking to me he seems like meh juat another dude

I'd assume it would have non guaranteed years, so I don't see the risk. Easy replacement for Trent, he's just as good.

Dude you are whacked or on a some form of a illegal substannce if you think rollins is as good as trent.Wth are you on.How insulting to trent.Hes way way way better than rollins n theres not a stat you show me that will tell me anything different.
JFC dude did trent kill your dog or something steal your gf .

Please tell me why you think Trent is so great? He has one skill, he makes open catch and shoot 3s. He's one of the NBAs worst rebounders, he doesn't get assists, and he's an average defender. Where's the value?

I know you think I have a conspiracy against him, but do you think every single statistical model also has a conspiracy against him?

[ShootingtheJ]

Pros: Kuzma really does have elite tier role-player potential and I'm starting to see the vision. Maybe it's just refreshing having a 6'9 dude who can move his feet and do athletic tweener stuff, but it opens up so much more defensive flexibility for us when we have another PF type body like him.

Cons: He's an even worse shot-creator/finisher than I expected. I honestly have no clue how he was able to put up 20+ for two consecutive seasons even at sub-average efficiency. He's an underrated passer/dribbler and can attack a closeout adequately enough, but it's an adventure every time he tries to shoot it off the bounce. That's where we're gonna miss Khris the most, cuz I already don't have much faith that you can rely on Kuz to be any sort of consistent playoff scorer.

Agree. Kuzma would be most useful if we also had Khris. We always needed a combo forward, but we needed to add it to our core.