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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#101 » by BUCKnation » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:19 am

Wooderson wrote:Small sample but coming into tonight Bucks in the clutch have a 98 ORtg (3rd worst O) but also 2nd best DRtg (114 minutes).

Dame: 17/51 FG, 4/26 from 3

Kinda sums up what i think about his shot selection in the clutch. How many game winners/enders has he had when he drives to the hoop vs jumpers? I have way more confidence when he takes it to the hoop.
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Post#102 » by CharityStripe34 » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:24 am

blazza18 wrote:Kuzma's shot making is going to be the end of us. A wild ride either good or bad.

Will live with Dame at the end of games but a pretty tough shot there.
I prefer crunch time Freak. Weirdly enough I trust him more.

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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#103 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:33 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Dame was very good tonight. Missed the final shot. This loss certainly isn't on him.


If he was a SG, then this is fine. However, he's supposedly a PG. 4 assists and 4 turnovers is a loss.

Then you get to crunch time, when Dame Time is the most fraudulent concept in basketball. Get the damn ball to Giannis.
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#104 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:35 am

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blazza18 wrote:Kuzma's shot making is going to be the end of us. A wild ride either good or bad.

Will live with Dame at the end of games but a pretty tough shot there.
I prefer crunch time Freak. Weirdly enough I trust him more.

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It's not weird when every stat shows he's awesome at crunch time?
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#105 » by blazza18 » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:36 am

Giannis creating his own shot in crunch time hasn't been awesome. He's blown layups and dunks in big spots this season
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#106 » by CharityStripe34 » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:03 am

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blazza18 wrote:Kuzma's shot making is going to be the end of us. A wild ride either good or bad.

Will live with Dame at the end of games but a pretty tough shot there.
I prefer crunch time Freak. Weirdly enough I trust him more.

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It's not weird when every stat shows he's awesome at crunch time?
I agree with you but for many people it is still a strange concept

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Post#107 » by Ron Swanson » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:43 am

You Dame agenda dudes are absolutely deranged lol. It’s games like this that make you question if you can even put Dairy out there against playoff level defenses. Dude gets neutralized way too easily and too often due to his one-dimensional skill set. Glad that KPJ got some run with the starters, but this team needs Gary’s shot-making way more than we realized.
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#108 » by Plossum » Sun Mar 9, 2025 7:24 am

Last possession from Dame was soft. Wasted like 2 secs in his triple threat then takes the soft step back option over two defenders. Gotta get into our actions faster and Dame has to attack the hoop there.
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Post#109 » by JayMKE » Sun Mar 9, 2025 9:35 am

Let’s be real, this is a 1st or 2nd round exit team and we’re going to have to blow this **** up in a few months again. No point splitting hairs about roleplayers, they’re not moving the needle enough either way. Hopefully Giannis is chill.
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Post#110 » by Plossum » Sun Mar 9, 2025 9:52 am

JayMKE wrote:Let’s be real, this is a 1st or 2nd round exit team and we’re going to have to blow this **** up in a few months again. No point splitting hairs about roleplayers, they’re not moving the needle enough either way. Hopefully Giannis is chill.

I’m not ready to completely write us off, but Giannis and Dame will need to go on a huge heater if we’re gonna win the title.
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Post#111 » by GoldenAntlers » Sun Mar 9, 2025 12:30 pm

randy84 wrote:
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randy84 wrote:I remember when Dame was on fire and Giannis and Brook wouldn't pass him the ball.
Weird post. Dame made two 3s in a row, missed a 3, made a layup, then missed another 3 and then had a TO throwing it out of bounds. He had the ball a ton. Giannis had like 2 possessions during that entire stretch and he scored both times.

Weird in that he made two in a row and they didn't pass it to him after that or just weird that we both brought up random possessions?
It wasn't even the fact he made two in a row, it is the WAY he made two in a row, and the timing (momentum) of it.

You absolutely put the ball in his hands (opposed to forcing a Giannis/Brook two-man game, while Dame is wide open and calling for the ball, only to turn it over).
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#112 » by GoldenAntlers » Sun Mar 9, 2025 12:35 pm

Be Here Now wrote:So Wes Matthews was the color guy? I was on a stream and had no clue who it was. I thought he was pretty good. That duo should be our regulars next year. Lisa and Marques can be the subs. Send Novak's boring ass packing.
Lisa is a "historic" hire. She's not going anywhere, anytime soon, unless she wants a career change. Bring Matthews on over Novak though, for sure.
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#113 » by GoldenAntlers » Sun Mar 9, 2025 12:40 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Understand people are reflexively glad no Novak.But Wes sucked. He’s got to work a chunk of UW Green Bay games first. His ‘best’ line was when he talked about when he played ‘there’ referring to playing for Milwaukee. Uh no, you’re ‘here’ tonight in Milwaukee.

And what’s the deal with allowing Lisa to take all this time off for college games during the weekends? And then you do Lisa Byington ‘hat night’ on a night Lisa isn’t even around?

Sorry, I got no takes on the game other than Orlando hit some tough shots down the stretch.
He definitely didn't suck. His voice didn't detract from the game at all. I would agree he didn't add a ton, but he spoke about the game intelligently and didn't hog the mic with "glory days" stories.

I think his defensive prowess will make for interesting. commentary, but maybe he could use some college games first.
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#114 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Mar 9, 2025 12:55 pm

Agreed. I thought Wes was fine. The best thing was he didn't see the need to ramble on incessantly. Sure there were some hiccups. I hope he's on tonight (and Koehn too of course)
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Post#115 » by Mtsportsfan » Sun Mar 9, 2025 2:19 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:Dame was very good tonight. Missed the final shot. This loss certainly isn't on him.


If he was a SG, then this is fine. However, he's supposedly a PG. 4 assists and 4 turnovers is a loss.

Then you get to crunch time, when Dame Time is the most fraudulent concept in basketball. Get the damn ball to Giannis.


I get what your saying and I somewhat agree. But do really want Giannis to have the ball down 2 with 6 seconds left, it scares me to think of him at the ft line to make two!
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#116 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Mar 9, 2025 2:35 pm

Plossum wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Let’s be real, this is a 1st or 2nd round exit team and we’re going to have to blow this **** up in a few months again. No point splitting hairs about roleplayers, they’re not moving the needle enough either way. Hopefully Giannis is chill.

I’m not ready to completely write us off, but Giannis and Dame will need to go on a huge heater if we’re gonna win the title.


bud was the don nelson years....and now doc is the del harris years

theres no reason whatsoever to blow it up if were gonna keep giannis.

but there isnt really a pathway to a "championship caliber team" anymore that doesnt involve massive levels of luck. personally im to the point where im just going to hope to watch good competitive basketball and enjoy that on its own merit. the alternative is dealing giannis and dame for a roster full of picks and youngsters and clearing salary and watching a rebuild. that could be fun too.....but it could also stink and you could be like wtf have we done.

lets all enjoy the year. we had a great deadline.
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Post#117 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sun Mar 9, 2025 2:47 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Understand people are reflexively glad no Novak.But Wes sucked. He’s got to work a chunk of UW Green Bay games first. His ‘best’ line was when he talked about when he played ‘there’ referring to playing for Milwaukee. Uh no, you’re ‘here’ tonight in Milwaukee.

Wes "sucked"? That's what you're going with? :roll: He's just starting out and I hear worse than him pretty consistently from people who are full time employees of other teams.
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#118 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Mar 9, 2025 3:01 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:Dame was very good tonight. Missed the final shot. This loss certainly isn't on him.


If he was a SG, then this is fine. However, he's supposedly a PG. 4 assists and 4 turnovers is a loss.

Then you get to crunch time, when Dame Time is the most fraudulent concept in basketball. Get the damn ball to Giannis.


I get what your saying and I somewhat agree. But do really want Giannis to have the ball down 2 with 6 seconds left, it scares me to think of him at the ft line to make two!


Sure, but he's also awesome at finishing through contact, so he might be attempting a game winning FT.
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Post#119 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Mar 9, 2025 3:07 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:You Dame agenda dudes are absolutely deranged lol.



Deranged is ignoring an entire seasons worth of data. The Bucks have been awful defensively all season with Dame on the floor, and phenomenal defensively when Dame sits. Last night, the Bucks were absolutely lambasted when Dame was on the floor.

Dame needs his minutes cut, to try to be more competitive in his minutes.
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Re: PG Orlando - Bucks Fall 

Post#120 » by CharityStripe34 » Sun Mar 9, 2025 3:24 pm

The big elephant in the room is the lack of easy offensive sets in crunch time. Guess we'll have to hope it improves.

Also think that GTJ should be starting and playing crunch time over Green. He's nailed a ton of big nuts shots, way more than Green.
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