How good will Yi become?

[buckybadgerfan]

What do they prove? The FGA per min if anything prove that Yi is less productive considering he takes more shots per minute yet their stats are virtually identical per 40, and per game stats are meaningless when making these sort of comparisons. Per 40 are much more accurate in determining who is playing better.

Look, if you want to ignore facts and just skew everything towards Yi's favour that's your choice, but don't expect anyone to take it seriously.

I'm not skewing stats. You all are saying Yi takes away shots and playing time from CV. There stats are pretty much par (Adv to the rookie).

Yet you say CV is better...Stats dont prove that. In fact you guys all compare him to CV as though they are both veterans.

People... Yi is a rookie. CV is a 3rd yr pro. AND yet Yi beat him out for the starting spot at the start of the season.

I wish I could be a CV homer but I hate losing Y'all. pathetic fans on this forum....blind & clueless.

[icat2000]

[quote="buckybadgerfan"][/quote]Yi might have had a better pre season than CV and then was awarded the starting spot based on that pre season form.

But you could make a a case that the play of the past month or so of Yi is not the same standard/level that Yi showed during pre season and during the first couple of months.

[REDDzone]

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I wish I could be a CV homer but I hate losing Y'all. pathetic fans on this forum....blind & clueless.

I never understood this.

If you believe that, then why waste your time on here?

[paulpressey25]

Stan McNeal had this blurb in the latest Sporting News:

".....Timberwolves rookie SF Corey Brewer's minutes have been cut almost in half in January, making at least one scout wonder whether he was the right pick at No. 7. The scout has been disappointed in Brewer's athleticism and energy level: "I don't see him being anything more than a role player," he says. Bucks rookie PF Yi Jianlian, meanwhile, has impressed the same scout. "He's highly skilled and very agile for his size," he says of the 7-footer, who has started every game. "He's got to improve his low-post game, but I think he's going to be pretty good in this league. They need to get him more involved than they have so far." ...

[buckybadgerfan]

What do they prove? The FGA per min if anything prove that Yi is less productive considering he takes more shots per minute yet their stats are virtually identical per 40, and per game stats are meaningless when making these sort of comparisons. Per 40 are much more accurate in determining who is playing better.

Look, if you want to ignore facts and just skew everything towards Yi's favour that's your choice, but don't expect anyone to take it seriously.

Yi's FGA per minute is on par with other PF and shows that Yi is focused on other areas of his game aka defense (BPG, SPG). It supports the fact that this team is not looking for him at the offensive end unlike CV. To say CV is more assertive on offense may be true but Yi's FG%, 3pFG% and FT% are all slightly better. These stats are straight from NBA.com and not fudged by me. I could care less whether CV or Yi starts. Bottomline is I'm sick of the losing effort in Milwaukee and the scapegoating in this forum.

CV is a veteran and Yi still must prove himself, I'll give you that much.
But to blame a rookie for such pathetic team play.

-->Sigra: We're losing so let's blame the Chinaman...
Open your eyes people and stop being xenophobes...

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[buckybadgerfan]

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I never understood this.

If you believe that, then why waste your time on here?

Dude, Haven't you heard. I'm a troll. i have multiple surnames but like many here I love discussing sports.

True, I maybe wasting my time here BUT I'm hardly on this forum compared to GMs and Asst GMs like yourself.

By the way, I'm sure you folks are better off without people contesting your faulty thinking. (sarcasm).

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By the way, I'm sure you folks are better off without people contesting your faulty thinking. (sarcasm).

Its odd to me that you think most others have a problem with their viewpoints being contested, but when yours is contested you call everyone pathetic and stupid.

Nice.

[buckybadgerfan]

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Its odd to me that you think most others have a problem with their viewpoints being contested, but when yours is contested you call everyone pathetic and stupid.

Nice.

There seems to be a problem with your reading comprehension dude.

In no way did I call people pathetic or stupid for contesting my opinions. My response was to those here are speaking out of their A$$ for scapegoating behavior and NOT supporting it with reasonable evidence. It is also directed at the fact that the majority of you are endorsing group think and not really trying to resolve anything. They didn't contest my opinions per se. They just merely suggested why I would waste my time here.

What does it matter to some posters whether I am wasting my time here. I'm just trying to contest the majority that our losing may not be the fault of a rookie. That this organization needs to take on a more responsible attitude and develop their young talents correctly.
When you as an organization sign a prospect amidst controversy, fly to a foreign place to court him and say you are committed to developing him and the face of your organization correctly...You atleast attempt to follow through.

Fans here are fickle and mirror the management well.
It's not my attitude or opinion. It's the facts. Review the discussions with open eyes people.

[REDDzone]

My reading comprehension, really?

You posted per game stats saying Yi was doing better than CV, Citizen posted per 40 stats saying CV was better than Yi. Neither stat is better than the other, but they can tell us different things.

Your next post said...

pathetic fans on this forum....blind & clueless.

But yea, you never called anyone stupid or pathetic for contesting your opinions.

In no way did I call people pathetic or stupid for contesting my opinions. My response was to those here are speaking out of their A$$ for scapegoating behavior and NOT supporting it with reasonable evidence.

The evidence used against you was per 40, how is per 40 not reasonable evidence?

*wait for you to insult my intelligence without adressing my points*

[buckybadgerfan]

What do they prove? The FGA per min if anything prove that Yi is less productive considering he takes more shots per minute yet their stats are virtually identical per 40, and per game stats are meaningless when making these sort of comparisons. Per 40 are much more accurate in determining who is playing better.

Look, if you want to ignore facts and just skew everything towards Yi's favour that's your choice, but don't expect anyone to take it seriously.

Uhm...Yi takes a shot every 3.06 min while CV attempts one every 2.35 minutes. That means CV attempts a FG more frequently than Yi.
Yi's EFF was not only > than CV at this point.
Look at the games in which Yi's scored >12. the bucks have beaten some decent teams.

[blkout]

Uhm...Yi takes a shot every 3.06 min while CV attempts one every 2.35 minutes. That means CV attempts a FG more frequently than Yi.

Yeah you're right, I mis-read it.

If you wanna talk about efficiency though...

Yi: 45.0 eFG%
CV: 47.7 eFG%

Yi: 50.1 TS%
CV: 50.8 TS%

Yi: 12.3 Turnover-ratio
CV: 11.0 Turnover-ratio

If Yi was averaging the same amount of points per 40 minutes I would say overall he is more efficient since his usage rate is lower, but he averages 4pp40 less than CV, so the difference in usage rate is negated somewhat.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/former-nba-6th-overall-pick-retires-yi-jianlian-bucks-nets-mavs-wizards

Now that his career has officially ended, did he meet expectations? What say you?

[MickeyDavis]

I say Bobby will need a new number when #9 goes to the rafters this season.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Yi Jianlian was initially the sixth pick in the 2007 NBA Draft by the Milwaukee Bucks.

The 35-year-old most recently played for the Guangdong Southern Tigers (CBA) and averaged 10.8 points, 1.1 rebounds and 1.2 assists per contest while shooting 46.2% from the field and 37.1% from the three-point range in 32 games.

Never broke character

[emunney]

It's so dope when these threads pop up and I didn't post in them. The man has a Beautiful Soul, what else can be said.

[ReasonablySober]

It's so terrible when these threads pop up and I didn't post in them. Was really looking for an opportunity to hit that edit button.

[RogerMurdock]

Half this board hadn't even hit retirement age yet when this thread started.

[Dick Tate]

The opportunity is there to give buckybadgerfan his first +1. Charming fella.

[engelmartin]

I still think Yi turns out being really really good.

[ampd]

I still think Yi turns out being really really good.

one day he will finally conquer that chair