Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid

[Willie Colon]

Just want to add when you say "the Bucks like Brandon Knight" that means the current personnel and coaching staff likes Knight. Whether they're canned this year or next, Hammonds and the Head Gum Chomper in Charge are probably not long for the unemployment line. What they like shouldn't matter more than a vinegar fart.

This post made me laugh and I'm not even sure why. Lol @ Head Gum Chomper and vinegar fart.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

I love how some of you get giddy about that lame Parker gif and then totally trash Wiggins. What is so impressive about that gif? That he caught the incredibly bad pass? That he dribbled up the floor and made a layup? The layup was even a bit of a prayer since he lacked the explosion to finish at the rim. I'm not trying to rip Parker, I like him, but I just find it amusing you guys use that gif as a reason to like Parker when that sort of play wouldn't even make a Wiggins highlight video.

[Baddy Chuck]

Parker scores every way imaginable. His skill level and footwork is better than most players in the NBA. He can react to the defense with proper footwork and has many moves. Wiggins seems to predetermine what he does while Parker seems to just be able to do what the defense gives him.

I'll play bad cop here, I think Parker's offensive expertise is pretty overblown. Even with the level his defense is at, if I thought his offense was where others think it is I'd take him over Wiggins, but again I don't think his offense is at that level.

For the better part of the first half of the season he was riding unsustainable, Dallas level, OJ Mayo shooting percentages. As the season went on those numbers dropped dramatically. In the first 12 games he made 19 threes at nearly 50%, the last 23 games he made 19 at 29%. Even his 2 point percentages took a nose dive. First 12 games 58%, last 23 games 46%. It isn't like he showed more playmaking for others either with the ball in his hands. He was a chucker to the highest degree in college basketball this season.

Later on in the season Coach K moved him into to the post. Not even the Melo/Pierce mid range post, on the block. His percentages there weren't spectacular and he got a ton of points off second opportunities and being fouled. Personally, I think those opportunities will be far fewer and in between in the NBA.

I'll agree his game is more refined at this point, but where did that get him? In halfcourt offense he had 1 more basket at the rim unassisted with worse percentages (52% to 44%) and even only a couple more unassisted midrange jumpers (4) on surprisingly worse percentage (like 29% to 25%). Shouldn't this great offensive player have shown more on his own then an awkward kid standing too upright dribbling the ball like a toddler and running into defenses?

And really, this is where I think the athleticism concerns come into play. I'm not looking at his athleticism to finish a fastbreak dunk over Perry Ellis, or running full speed after a defensive rebound, I'm looking for his athleticism in the in between game that make less athletic players the great scorers that they are. Guys like Melo and prime Pierce had/have great quickness off the dribble and with their post moves, I think Parker is rather brutish in that sense using his size to create space moreso then a first step or quick spin like the players he's compared to.

[JEIS]

I don't see Exum as the type of player that could elevate this team into the top team in the league. We need this pick to have potential to be a top 2 or 3 player in the league in a few years. We need a legit Star player. I think with Exum, we'd continue being the Bucks and we'd be on the playoff treadmill for the next 7 or 8 year without a legit chance of winning a championship.

[Wise1]

Jabari on the break in that clip reminds me of Lebron...a massive train that no one will want to step in front of in transition. Wasn't Lebron about 240 when he entered the league? Jabari is only 19 and will probably add muscle and play at 250lbs plus easily. I love the size, speed, and athleticism combo (of course I'm not saying Parker = Lebron). With his handles and shot making ability, I hope that Parker can use his size and power in the same fashion that Joe Johnson does to create offense anywhere on the court. Bigger and more athletic Paul Pierce / Joe Johnson...I'll take it.

[Cold Crush 24]

I still cant believe we have the opportunity to get any one of these guys. I remember last year thinking why can't we suck for just this year. If there is a year to suck this is it. Why go for the 15th pick with this much talent. Honestly, as long as we take one of the top three I will be happy. If it ends up being Embiid I am cool with that. If it is Randle I will riot. Wiggins is still my guy though.







Can the draft just hurry up and get here!!!

[TroyD92]

Jabari on the break in that clip reminds me of Lebron...a massive train that no one will want to step in front of in transition. Wasn't Lebron about 240 when he entered the league? Jabari is only 19 and will probably add muscle and play at 250lbs plus easily. I love the size, speed, and athleticism combo (of course I'm not saying Parker = Lebron). With his handles and shot making ability, I hope that Parker can use his size and power in the same fashion that Joe Johnson does to create offense anywhere on the court. Bigger and more athletic Paul Pierce / Joe Johnson...I'll take it.

I think he was closer to 220.

[Max Green]

Defensive stop, Defensive rebound, pushes ball full court through 4 defenders, DUNKS on 5th defender. Not athletic enough....

[Chapter29]

Of course it means the current personnel. That's all that we have to go on at this point. If the new owners were planning on making an immediate change in the front office, they probably would have brought their candidate to the table with them. We've heard nothing about a potential change so I think Hammond and his coach get another year to prove themselves. If the Bucks draft Embiid/Parker...they'll show improvement on the floor and the coach/gm get more leash until the team stagnates. If Parker wins ROY...no way they fire Hammond. His coach will probably stick around too. I think Wiggins is the player in the top 4 most likely to get Hammond and Drew fired. He'll take more time to reach his "potential".

Somehow our new found owners will find a way to have a say.

[Baddy Chuck]

Defensive stop, Defensive rebound, pushes ball full court through 4 defenders, DUNKS on 5th defender. Not athletic enough....

Something something something about how I could do that and score 41 points against ECU.

[Diggr14]

Wiggins cant dribble with his off-hand, can't shoot, disappears in games, and has motivational issues in a short season. But yes. He can jump and run.


Give me Parker over Wiggins any day of the week. If Embiid is healthy.. i'd take him, but I'd be shocked if Cle doesn't pick him. If they trade the pick to Minn - they could go Wiggins and we'd have the choice between Parker, Embiid, or trade down to 3/4.

[VooDoo7]

**** is just getting out of hand now.

[Max Green]

Defensive stop, Defensive rebound, pushes ball full court through 4 defenders, DUNKS on 5th defender. Not athletic enough....

Something something something about how I could do that and score 41 points against ECU.

I know you're in Wiggins lead defense attorney mode and mocking Wise1 but here's Parker against one of the best defensive teams in the country.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

Looks like individual workouts are starting to be scheduled.

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[JustinCredible]

**** is just getting out of hand now.

Agreed. When people can't see that Parker and Wiggins are both excellent in transition then I start to question if they watched them play. They are both great transition players.

The anti-Parker hyperbole comments are getting out of hand.

Also, stop it with the 'I could score 40 against that team' garbage. No. No you couldn't. You couldn't score 40 against 40 year olds at the Y. If you could it wouldn't be at even above 40% shooting.

[SupremeHustle]

Just want to add when you say "the Bucks like Brandon Knight" that means the current personnel and coaching staff likes Knight. Whether they're canned this year or next, Hammonds and the Head Gum Chomper in Charge are probably not long for the unemployment line. What they like shouldn't matter more than a vinegar fart.

This post made me laugh and I'm not even sure why. Lol @ Head Gum Chomper and vinegar fart.

It's Mark Twain-esque is what it is.

[VooDoo7]

Much faster than I remember!

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

Also, stop it with the 'I could score 40 against that team' garbage. No. No you couldn't. You couldn't score 40 against 40 year olds at the Y. If you could it wouldn't be at even above 40% shooting.

This.

[VooDoo7]

**** is just getting out of hand now.

Agreed. When people can't see that Parker and Wiggins are both excellent in transition then I start to question if they watched them play. They are both great transition players.

The anti-Parker hyperbole comments are getting out of hand.

Also, stop it with the 'I could score 40 against that team' garbage. No. No you couldn't. You couldn't score 40 against 40 year olds at the Y. If you could it wouldn't be at even above 40% shooting.

Yup. There are plenty of things to like about each guy. They each have their weaknesses too.

If we were all told at the beginning of the season that we'd have a guaranteed shot at either one of these kids, people wouldn't daffyfap.giffed all day long.

With that said, I want Wiggins. But I'd be happy with Jabari as well.

[JustinCredible]

Parker scores every way imaginable. His skill level and footwork is better than most players in the NBA. He can react to the defense with proper footwork and has many moves. Wiggins seems to predetermine what he does while Parker seems to just be able to do what the defense gives him.

I'll play bad cop here, I think Parker's offensive expertise is pretty overblown. Even with the level his defense is at, if I thought his offense was where others think it is I'd take him over Wiggins, but again I don't think his offense is at that level.

For the better part of the first half of the season he was riding unsustainable, Dallas level, OJ Mayo shooting percentages. As the season went on those numbers dropped dramatically. In the first 12 games he made 19 threes at nearly 50%, the last 23 games he made 19 at 29%. Even his 2 point percentages took a nose dive. First 12 games 58%, last 23 games 46%. It isn't like he showed more playmaking for others either with the ball in his hands. He was a chucker to the highest degree in college basketball this season.

Later on in the season Coach K moved him into to the post. Not even the Melo/Pierce mid range post, on the block. His percentages there weren't spectacular and he got a ton of points off second opportunities and being fouled. Personally, I think those opportunities will be far fewer and in between in the NBA.

I'll agree his game is more refined at this point, but where did that get him? In halfcourt offense he had 1 more basket at the rim unassisted with worse percentages (52% to 44%) and even only a couple more unassisted midrange jumpers (4) on surprisingly worse percentage (like 29% to 25%). Shouldn't this great offensive player have shown more on his own then an awkward kid standing too upright dribbling the ball like a toddler and running into defenses?

And really, this is where I think the athleticism concerns come into play. I'm not looking at his athleticism to finish a fastbreak dunk over Perry Ellis, or running full speed after a defensive rebound, I'm looking for his athleticism in the in between game that make less athletic players the great scorers that they are. Guys like Melo and prime Pierce had/have great quickness off the dribble and with their post moves, I think Parker is rather brutish in that sense using his size to create space moreso then a first step or quick spin like the players he's compared to.

I know you are disagreeing with me but I just wanted to say that this is a great post. You backed up your thoughts with numbers and you didn't go totally hyperbole 'Parker is garbage'. I definitely don't agree that Parker is 'brutish' and that he isn't quick in the half court. Watch his highlights against UNC and against Kansas for example. He shows a terrific package of skill-set. One game was early in the year and one game was at the end of the year. I just see a lot of talent and refined skill that I was surprised to see in a college player.