2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

[M-C-G]

Quick name all the all stars in the league who are 6'4 - .... there just isn't any. The only guys that come to mind at 6'4 are Eric Gordon, Marcus Smart, Dion Waiters, Brandon Knight...those guys are all flawed in a lot of ways in part because they aren't quick enough or tall enough. Maybe it's just an aberration... but I think it's relevant to think about

Aren't Brandon Beal, Russell Westrbrook, Curry, John Wall all between 6'3-6'4?

[bucksfansince88]

Larry sanders was way more explosive than Allen

That was one thing I think people under estimated Sanders. His dunking was strange in that he would fully extend his arms and just jump enough to dunk it, which made him maybe appear less athletic than he was.

Not many centers could get up and down the court like he could. Two plays that come to mind, one when he was running the fast break dribbling the ball and was just pulling away from guys, can't recall who it was against. The other was a chase down block of maybe Harden, very few bigs had that kind of speed, even if he didn't use it all the time.

Miami Heat game where he was weaving through defenders full court for the dunk.

[machu46]

His team was god awful with hilariously poor spacing, and he was still able to produce at a very efficient rate.

He just screams to me good stats bad team guy. I mean last year people were freaking out that Ben Simmons didn't make the tournament...but his team was 19-14 and finished 3rd in the SEC... Fultz went 9-22... and 2-16 in conference play...in a pretty weak conference...I mean God damn that is terrible. How can the #1 pick be on a team that bad?

Being tall isn't a weakness, and he isn't even small relative to SGs anymore. His standing reach is like an inch shorter than Harden/Klay Thompson and an inch or two longer than Bradley Beal. His size is perfectly fine for a SG and is good for a PG.

Quick name all the all stars in the league who are 6'4 - .... there just isn't any. The only guys that come to mind at 6'4 are Eric Gordon, Marcus Smart, Dion Waiters, Brandon Knight...those guys are all flawed in a lot of ways in part because they aren't quick enough or tall enough. Maybe it's just an aberration... but I think it's relevant to think about

I feel like the "good stats bad team" thing is an outdated phrase we used for guys that put up big numbers inefficiently on bad teams and got overpaid for it. Fultz was extremely efficient at Washington despite being the sole focus of opposing defenses. And his team went 9-16 with him playing. He missed 6 games in which they went 0-6. Don't get me wrong, 9-16 is still bad, but there's only so much one player can do when playing in a major college conference surrounded by awful teammates. I never understood criticizing Simmons for this either, and Washington was a far worse situation than LSU.

As MCG mentioned, Westbrook, Curry, Wall, Beal are all basically the same height as Fultz. And Dwyane Wade has basically the same measurables as Fultz too. Wall measured at exactly 6'4". Westbrook was 6'3.5", which is exactly what Fultz measured at. Curry was 0.25 inches shorter.

[Nowak008]

Quick name all the all stars in the league who are 6'4 - .... there just isn't any. The only guys that come to mind at 6'4 are Eric Gordon, Marcus Smart, Dion Waiters, Brandon Knight...those guys are all flawed in a lot of ways in part because they aren't quick enough or tall enough. Maybe it's just an aberration... but I think it's relevant to think about

Aren't Brandon Beal, Russell Westrbrook, Curry, John Wall all between 6'3-6'4?

All are 6'3, Beal listed at 6'5... It's kinda a stupid point... I just find it interesting.

[M-C-G]

Quick name all the all stars in the league who are 6'4 - .... there just isn't any. The only guys that come to mind at 6'4 are Eric Gordon, Marcus Smart, Dion Waiters, Brandon Knight...those guys are all flawed in a lot of ways in part because they aren't quick enough or tall enough. Maybe it's just an aberration... but I think it's relevant to think about

Aren't Brandon Beal, Russell Westrbrook, Curry, John Wall all between 6'3-6'4?

Yes. And Fultz is basically the same height/length as Dwyane Wade as well.

I'm going to put that tid bit of scouting "how many 6'4 guys are all stars" right up there with all white guys are some form of Jason Smith.

[Nowak008]

Taking a quick look - there has never been a #1 pick on a team with a losing record in college... 9-22 is...pitiful

[M-C-G]

He just screams to me good stats bad team guy.

While I was watching the Cavs, I kept thinking about how good Kyrie's stats would be without Lebron but how bad the team would be too. Watching him just sit there and iso into some really difficult circus shots, I was left thinking, what a stupid shot, but incredible that he is able to make them. Tons of talent but without Lebron, I don't think it can be harnessed to win.

[machu46]

Taking a quick look - there has never been a #1 pick on a team with a losing record in college... 9-22 is...pitiful

Most #1 draft picks go to good schools.

[M-C-G]

Taking a quick look - there has never been a #1 pick on a team with a losing record in college... 9-22 is...pitiful

I do find this angle interesting. I could see it more with a big, that maybe had a selfish PG, or their team didn't really play through them. But as the PG and a guy with the ball, it does raise some caution.

[tski1972]

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too bad the Bucks don't have a GM.

[PANDEMONEUM]

Quick name all the all stars in the league who are 6'4 - .... there just isn't any. The only guys that come to mind at 6'4 are Eric Gordon, Marcus Smart, Dion Waiters, Brandon Knight...those guys are all flawed in a lot of ways in part because they aren't quick enough or tall enough. Maybe it's just an aberration... but I think it's relevant to think about

6'4 for a SG,
pretty much means ur a 6th man or bencher.
the only 2 that had success were Monta and Wade.
but they were extreme athletes.

[sdn40]

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too bad the Bucks don't have a GM.

Don't know if you're kidding or not, but some of you act as if the Bucks are closed for business, not answering the phone or whatever. It's business as usual. Zanik is the acting GM and is covering all of those duties until he is told otherwise. He is probably in Hammonds former office as we speak taking the sharpened pencils out of the ceiling. Just like any other organization, he has a team of guys he talks to about possible trade partners, options etc. They are making final preparations for the draft just like any other team. The spot isn't vacant.

[BuckHole]

9 days!

[M-C-G]

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too bad the Bucks don't have a GM.

Don't know if you're kidding or not, but some of you act as if the Bucks are closed for business, not answering the phone or whatever. It's business as usual. Zanik is the acting GM and is covering all of those duties until he is told otherwise. He is probably in Hammonds former office as we speak taking the sharpened pencils out of the ceiling. Just like any other organization, he has a team of guys he talks to about possible trade partners, options etc. They are making final preparations for the draft just like any other team. The spot isn't vacant.

I think going from workouts every couple of days to none for two weeks or whatever it was, is the real concern here. Frankly I am glad to see we finally brought in a first round prospect, I'm just not very thrilled by the one we did bring in.

[Matches Malone]

Josh Jackson back in LA for his second workout with the team.

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[M-C-G]

Josh Jackson back in LA for his second workout with the team.

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Pretty sure that he cancelled a workout with Boston too. Lonzo falling to Sacramento starting to look more and more possible

[Matches Malone]

Pretty sure that he cancelled a workout with Boston too. Lonzo falling to Sacramento starting to look more and more possible

You think Philly and Phoenix would pass on Ball? Would be interesting.

[M-C-G]

Pretty sure that he cancelled a workout with Boston too. Lonzo falling to Sacramento starting to look more and more possible

You think Philly and Phoenix would pass on Ball? Would be interesting.

No idea, but did Ball even workout for either team yet? I mean we are 9 days away, time is running out.

[emunney]

Washington had the killer combo of being very young and not very talented. If you had a Wisconsin team where your 10 best players were freshmen and sophomores, they'd suck, too, even if some of those guys were really good college players by the time they graduated (which, being Wisconsin players, I assume they would be). Even if you had a freshman Fultz in there. It killed them to lose Murray and Chriss after 1 year. They are not the kind of program that can weather that.

[emunney]

Most amazing outcome would be Lonzo slipping and getting traded to the Warriors for Klay.