Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[LUKE23]

Still all in on using our cap space on a Bledsoe offer, and still think the people that feel we are a lock for the top 5 again in 2015 are nuts.

[eagle13]

FREE AGENCY
Byron Mullens- C-PF 1.5m/1y
Jimmer Fredette- SG-PG - 1.2m/1y

Yuck

if your too blind to see or too feeble to comprehend - they were after Bledsoe is signed and most cap space is gone and they are 11th & 12th man

[msiris]

so if wolters, middleton, and miroslav develop into max level restricted free agents in the next year then that is a bad thing and we should let them walk. we will be simply improving too fast for it to be the proper way to rebuild. youre saying we dont want good players unless its our own top 5 picks. of course thats with the exception of giannis..... he doesnt count for some reason. gotcha.

selectively rooting against the improvement or acquisition of top young talent may be the most ass backwards way to develop a team ive ever heard but at least im clear on your thought process moving forward.

It would depend what level of max players they are. If Wolters and Miroslav turn into Magic Johnson and Shaq level max players then I would even consider trading Giannis/Parker to build an immediate title favorite. By contrast if it is more at the Gordon Hayward/Greg Monroe level max I would rather trade them than tie up max money.

If we sign Bledsoe what do you think our chances are of winning a Title before his deal expires? 0%, .00000001%? Bledsoe would have to become Jordan 2.0. Once a 4 year contract expires, Bledsoe will likely have 1-2 years left until he breaks down (assuming his knees do not get injured more until then). If Bledsoe was a Ray Allen type amazing shooter i would feel more confident in his 30 and above prospects. However, wings who rely on athleticism age poorly.

Everything we do should focus on creating a Title Contender from 2018-2028. Bledsoe does not fit that long term window

so the only approach is the sixers approach..... or maybe even more severe than that youre saying

should the cavs have not pursued kyrie? should the trailblazers look to move lillard? whats their championship odds in the next 4 years? go ask cavs and blazers fans if they want to dump their stars because they aren't magic and shaq level max players yet.

bledsoe is arguably the top pg in the league age 25 and under!!!! and you don't want him because you have this arbitrary "window" when were supposed to be winning that is so far into the future that my 12 yo old could be giving me grandchildren by the time it arrives. we could tank for 50 years and never build a winner with your approach.

Bledsoe is the same damn age as nate wolters. and his talent level is better than your average top 5 pick. so using your argument we should be rooting against nate, or dumping him because hes too old and/or not likely to become magic johnson. youre saying we should not pursue arguably the top YOUNG pg in the entire league because we MIGHT lose some ODDS in a draft LOTTERY that the cavs just jumped 10 spots to win.

if your going to argue this then argue it from the standpoint you don't think Bledsoe is as good as the rest of the league does. that's the only argument. at least then we can have a sensible debate. youre not going to convince anybody we should be rooting against the development of our 24 year old players so we don't have to pay them because their too old to win longterm with.

The age thing doesn't matter, but the injury concern does.

[Sherman Douglas]

So is there anything new on this or just people's wet dream fantasies? Can we officially make anoffer to Bledsoe yet or is there some separate deadline for RFAs?

[BigO]

Bledsoe is not a very good passer.

His career totals show points per game at 8.7 and assists at 3.4. Not good for someone entering his fifth year.

Omg dude I know, it's like how everyone thought Aaron Rodgers was so good, but after three years in the league, he barely had any touchdowns! Scrub!

You have to go to a different sport to make your case that Bledsoe will suddenly become an MVP? One minor difference. Rodgers didn't play his first three years. Bledsoe has. And I guess by your post that you, and you alone, knew Rodgers was that good. Any more examples?

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

The age thing doesn't matter, but the injury concern does.

what injury concern? with his knee from last year?

[machu46]

So is there anything new on this or just people's wet dream fantasies? Can we officially make anoffer to Bledsoe yet or is there some separate deadline for RFAs?

You could make a verbal offer and have a verbal agreement in place, but nothing can officially be signed until the 10th, and then Phoenix would have three days to match. I still think it's a pipe dream.

[BigO]

It would depend what level of max players they are. If Wolters and Miroslav turn into Magic Johnson and Shaq level max players then I would even consider trading Giannis/Parker to build an immediate title favorite. By contrast if it is more at the Gordon Hayward/Greg Monroe level max I would rather trade them than tie up max money.

If we sign Bledsoe what do you think our chances are of winning a Title before his deal expires? 0%, .00000001%? Bledsoe would have to become Jordan 2.0. Once a 4 year contract expires, Bledsoe will likely have 1-2 years left until he breaks down (assuming his knees do not get injured more until then). If Bledsoe was a Ray Allen type amazing shooter i would feel more confident in his 30 and above prospects. However, wings who rely on athleticism age poorly.

Everything we do should focus on creating a Title Contender from 2018-2028. Bledsoe does not fit that long term window

so the only approach is the sixers approach..... or maybe even more severe than that youre saying

should the cavs have not pursued kyrie? should the trailblazers look to move lillard? whats their championship odds in the next 4 years? go ask cavs and blazers fans if they want to dump their stars because they aren't magic and shaq level max players yet.

bledsoe is arguably the top pg in the league age 25 and under!!!! and you don't want him because you have this arbitrary "window" when were supposed to be winning that is so far into the future that my 12 yo old could be giving me grandchildren by the time it arrives. we could tank for 50 years and never build a winner with your approach.

Bledsoe is the same damn age as nate wolters. and his talent level is better than your average top 5 pick. so using your argument we should be rooting against nate, or dumping him because hes too old and/or not likely to become magic johnson. youre saying we should not pursue arguably the top YOUNG pg in the entire league because we MIGHT lose some ODDS in a draft LOTTERY that the cavs just jumped 10 spots to win.

if your going to argue this then argue it from the standpoint you don't think Bledsoe is as good as the rest of the league does. that's the only argument. at least then we can have a sensible debate. youre not going to convince anybody we should be rooting against the development of our 24 year old players so we don't have to pay them because their too old to win longterm with.

The age thing doesn't matter, but the injury concern does.

I agree with the bolded part of your post. If Bledsoe is one of the top point guards in the league, then sign him. I just don't think he's shown it. Averaging 8 points and 3 assists a year over four years doesn't tell me he is special. It is a huge leap of faith to project stardom for someone who has been consistently mediocre. The only argument against this is that he has been injured for 2 or 3 of those years. But then that raises the whole "can he stay injury free" issue.

[Diggr14]

what type of salary will he command 11-13?

[Diggr14]

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[Diggr14]

Bledsoe is completely overrated by this board. On top of that, the pipe dream of not surrendering at least a #1 pick next season for him is also crazy. Throw in at least 12M per... ugh... facepalm.

6'1 point guards that dont pass.... you'd think that we would be over that by now.

[LedZepp007]

Bledsoe is completely overrated by this board. On top of that, the pipe dream of not surrendering at least a #1 pick next season for him is also crazy. Throw in at least 12M per... ugh... facepalm.

6'1 point guards that dont pass.... you'd think that we would be over that by now. Apparently not for some posters.

Unlike our other 6'1" PGs, Bledsoe defends and scores efficiently.

[LUKE23]

I wouldn't surrender a 1st for him, obviously. But name a better use of our cap space. Also, his AST% was better than Knight's. His D is elite, and his efficiency is really damn good as well. If you want a guy that does that and hands out 9-10 assists a night, well, you will be looking a while. I'll take a great invidual scorer and defender who is 24.

[midranger]

There is nothing the Bucks board hates more than realized potential.

[drew881]

You see Parker only playing 45-50 games? Do you think thats the way he'll be his entire carear or do u think thats only next season till pro trainers get ahold of him? I ask cause i don't see a huge concern with him being able to stay on the court. The rookie wall i'll give is a concern as it is with a rookies

While 25-27 wins is possible i don't think it's likly. How quickly some have forgotton when just last year at this time so many people were complaining about the NBA purgatory chase for the 8 seed and the fact that most everybody expected the Bucks to finish around 35 wins. We we're only as bad as we were last year cause every thing fell right for it.

I don't think it will be like that his whole career. More like what you described of transitioning to NBA and getting in NBA shape. Look at Tobias with hydration. I think Parker has a very similar body and will encounter the same issues early on. Those who see him coming in, playing 80 games, scoring 20 a game, and winning ROY might be a bit disappointed. I see 12 ppg, 7 rebounds in 45-50 games. Which will be a fine start.

[midranger]

If Giannis and Parker are as good as people think they are, adding Bledsoe could make this a really good team next year (also assuming that Sanders plays basketball). Having elite level defense at the PG and C sets you up pretty well to win a lot of games.

If they're not as good as people think they are, we're screwed anyway.

[quick23]

Bledsoe is not a very good passer.

His career totals show points per game at 8.7 and assists at 3.4. Not good for someone entering his fifth year.

Omg dude I know, it's like how everyone thought Aaron Rodgers was so good, but after three years in the league, he barely had any touchdowns! Scrub!

You have to go to a different sport to make your case that Bledsoe will suddenly become an MVP? One minor difference. Rodgers didn't play his first three years. Bledsoe has. And I guess by your post that you, and you alone, knew Rodgers was that good. Any more examples?

How about Paul Millsap?

Only took him 8 years to make an all star game. Ricky Pierce's first asg? Age 31. Dennis Rodman? 28 . Sam Cassell? 34. Tim Wakefield a mlb all star rookie at 42?

[Matches Malone]

There is nothing the Bucks board hates more than realized potential.

[Sherman Douglas]

There is nothing the Bucks board hates more than realized potential.

Seriously, why is it constantly about getting younger and rawer? There's nothing wrong with brining in a 24 year old. 4 years from now when Parker and Giannis are hopefully blossoming Bledsoe would still be young. Not every core player needs to be the same age.

[msiris]

The age thing doesn't matter, but the injury concern does.

what injury concern? with his knee from last year?

Yep