OT: General OT Thread [NO POLITICS, RACE OR RELIGION]

[MickeyDavis]

Is anyone here a developer? Specifically web? I'm constantly in a battle with our developers being slow as hell at work and we've been trying to implement agile proj. management and it's just not working in the slightest.

Not a developer.

I'm getting sick of agile tbh. It's used as a crutch for poor - or no - planning. I could go on and on, but this HBR article from earlier this year summed up my thoughts well.

https://hbr.org/2021/04/have-we-taken-agile-too-far

To your main point, I'll just caution that without good scrum masters, agile has the potential to slow you down further. Make sure you have good and adaptable people in place to help it all come together, otherwise people could be working on the wrong stories, inflating sizing, etc. Not unique to agile, but I think the framework allows more room for it without good management.

So we're attempting a hybrid sort of agile. Currently it takes us months to get something out, we want to cut it down by doing smaller updates throughout the lifespan of the project. Totally understand the agile being a crutch, but we're so far from that it's insane.

Agile is overhyped. I've been at 3 companies that switched to it with great fanfare but it flamed out within a year. Waterfall has limitations as well so I get trying something new.

The concept behind Agile is valid but like most methodologies it works on some projects and not on others. But companies take an all or nothing approach and try to force it on every team/every project. It's usually a case of senior management hearing about it at some seminar or reading an article about it and jumping on the hype train to justify their roles.

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I say this as someone who listens to two-three hours of podcasts every day primarily sponsored by gambling sites, but the ubiquitous nature of sports gambling is massively disturbing to me. It's in every national sports broadcast. Pre-game, during the game, postgame, highlight shows, radio, and podcasts.

I hear you. I always believed that this is what it was going to be. The next step is seeing league/team-affiliated sportbooks in the stadiums themselves, like you see in England, so that a fan can get up from their seat, buy a hot dog, and wager on whether their team will cover in the second half all in one go. That is, if they don't just use the app on their phone to do so.

[jschligs]

Not a developer.

I'm getting sick of agile tbh. It's used as a crutch for poor - or no - planning. I could go on and on, but this HBR article from earlier this year summed up my thoughts well.

https://hbr.org/2021/04/have-we-taken-agile-too-far

To your main point, I'll just caution that without good scrum masters, agile has the potential to slow you down further. Make sure you have good and adaptable people in place to help it all come together, otherwise people could be working on the wrong stories, inflating sizing, etc. Not unique to agile, but I think the framework allows more room for it without good management.

So we're attempting a hybrid sort of agile. Currently it takes us months to get something out, we want to cut it down by doing smaller updates throughout the lifespan of the project. Totally understand the agile being a crutch, but we're so far from that it's insane.

Agile is overhyped. I've been at 3 companies that switched to it with great fanfare but it flamed out within a year. Waterfall has limitations as well so I get trying something new.

The concept behind Agile is valid but like most methodologies it works on some projects and not on others. But companies take an all or nothing approach and try to force it on every team/every project. It's usually a case of senior management hearing about it at some seminar or reading an article about it and jumping on the hype train to justify their roles.

Ha, that's exactly what's happening. Our directors are not pleased with the speed and work which is being done, so they read about Agile and thinks that's the right solution. I've been trying to tell them it's not the project management style, it's the developers. I know that sounds rude, but I've worked with hundreds of developers and the ones we have are beyond bad.

[MickeyDavis]

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I say this as someone who listens to two-three hours of podcasts every day primarily sponsored by gambling sites, but the ubiquitous nature of sports gambling is massively disturbing to me. It's in every national sports broadcast. Pre-game, during the game, postgame, highlight shows, radio, and podcasts.

I hear you. I always believed that this is what it was going to be. The next step is seeing league/team-affiliated sportbooks in the stadiums themselves, like you see in England, so that a fan can get up from their seat, buy a hot dog, and wager on whether their team will cover in the second half all in one go. That is, if they don't just use the app on their phone to do so.

Absolutely. I believe Wrigley Field has a deal for a sportsbook inside the stadium. I like sports betting but it's getting so you can't avoid it when watching a game.

Don't look for a sportsbook inside AmFam Field or FiServ. Any expansion of gambling can only be done by the tribes. Each one has to negotiate a deal with the governor and then have it approved by the Feds. So far Oneida has done it. Poto and other tribes are still in the negotiation stages. Oneida's deal is limited to their casinos only, no offsite apps or offsite sportsbooks anywhere. To expand it beyond tribes requires a constitutional amendment. That would require it passing both the state senate and assembly in back to back sessions and then being approved in a statewide referendum. That would take a minimum of 2 years. And there are plenty of anti gambling politicians that have squashed even considering it for a vote.

Voters ratified additional amendments permitting bingo (1973), raffles (1977), pari-mutuel on-track betting (1987), and a state lottery (1987). A 1993 amendment clarified that all other types of gambling would remain illegal.
At the time the lottery amendment passed, tribal gaming was a small industry nationally. However, that year the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states regulating certain forms of gambling could not prevent tribes from also offering them. Instead, governments would have to negotiate compacts with tribes, detailing how gaming would function in the state. Thus, when Wisconsin voters authorized a state lottery, they opened the door to tribal casinos.

[KidA24]

So we're attempting a hybrid sort of agile. Currently it takes us months to get something out, we want to cut it down by doing smaller updates throughout the lifespan of the project. Totally understand the agile being a crutch, but we're so far from that it's insane.

Agile is overhyped. I've been at 3 companies that switched to it with great fanfare but it flamed out within a year. Waterfall has limitations as well so I get trying something new.

The concept behind Agile is valid but like most methodologies it works on some projects and not on others. But companies take an all or nothing approach and try to force it on every team/every project. It's usually a case of senior management hearing about it at some seminar or reading an article about it and jumping on the hype train to justify their roles.

Ha, that's exactly what's happening. Our directors are not pleased with the speed and work which is being done, so they read about Agile and thinks that's the right solution. I've been trying to tell them it's not the project management style, it's the developers. I know that sounds rude, but I've worked with hundreds of developers and the ones we have are beyond bad.

I'm an Agile Coach/Scrum Master by trade, and it is amazing how many times any sort of transformation fails as a result of not doing one of these 5 things:

1) Trusting motivated people who are actually able to do the work to do the work
2) Clear vision as to what the most important things to work on are and that we want to continuously improve
3) Split work, not people
4) If something is painful, don't ignore it - it will only get worse
5) Quality (and as a result - automation) should be the primary concern, it makes everything else easier

I've worked with great Product Owners and awful ones. Great developers and awful ones. Great people managers and awful ones.

It is amazing the contrast.

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ETA: I've got nothing. This is heartbreaking.

[emunney]

Gawker media removed photos from pre-2019 Onion articles and I am LIVID.

[chonestown]

Gawker media removed photos from pre-2019 Onion articles and I am LIVID.

The 9/11 edition should be in the Smithsonian. It's criminal what the herbs have wrought.

Being in Madison when The Onion was in its ascendancy was something, man.

[MickeyDavis]

Gawker media removed photos from pre-2019 Onion articles and I am LIVID.

The 9/11 edition should be in the Smithsonian. It's criminal what the herbs have wrought.

Being in Madison when The Onion was in its ascendancy was something, man.

I was in Madison then too, loved when a new issue came out.

[chonestown]

Gawker media removed photos from pre-2019 Onion articles and I am LIVID.

The 9/11 edition should be in the Smithsonian. It's criminal what the herbs have wrought.

Being in Madison when The Onion was in its ascendancy was something, man.

I was in Madison then too, loved when a new issue came out.

That's RGM moderator/former Den Customer of the Week, MickeyDavis, kids. Know your history.

[ReasonablySober]

Gawker media removed photos from pre-2019 Onion articles and I am LIVID.

Sign into Kinja (or create a Kinja account) and the photos for all old Gawker media posts are there.

[ReasonablySober]

Halloween quickly climbed the rankings in Uncle Holidays today. There was a big get together at the grandparents' place. Bought a few dozen full size candies for five nieces and nephews and was able to hand them out their first batch. Introduced all five to the concept of a big leaf pile where grandpa got his back yard raked for the purpose of a bunch of little kids running and jumping onto one another. Today was very, very fun.

[MickeyDavis]

With all the bad news we're constantly bombarded with it's nice to have a great story sometimes, from Chippewa Falls

https://www.kare11.com/video/news/local/land-of-10000-stories/14-year-old-cross-country-runner-pushes-her-big-brother-in-a-wheelchair-so-they-can-compete-together/89-8b157e26-5cc6-42f0-aeca-3c8b8583df2c

[MikeIsGood]

With all the bad news we're constantly bombarded with it's nice to have a great story sometimes, from Chippewa Falls

https://www.kare11.com/video/news/local/land-of-10000-stories/14-year-old-cross-country-runner-pushes-her-big-brother-in-a-wheelchair-so-they-can-compete-together/89-8b157e26-5cc6-42f0-aeca-3c8b8583df2c

Excellent start to the week, thanks MD.

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It doesn't surprise me that Barstool has gross, disgusting followers. What blows my mind is when otherwise respectable media give these human sh*t stains a platform.

[emunney]

Lol is the fact that the reporter was on the story for 8 months supposed to be bad?

[MikeIsGood]

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It doesn't surprise me that Barstool has gross, disgusting followers. What blows my mind is when otherwise respectable media give these human sh*t stains a platform.

I not-so-lowkey hope this wipes Barstool clean. They've felt slimey their entire existence.

[BUCKnation]

Not defending it without more info, but they did drop the story on the same day that $PENN announced their earnings and further tanked their stock, which is kind of sus.

[Bucksfan28]

Starting this fall Saturday with the ATP Paris Masters semis. Zverev vs Medvedev coming up. Let's go Daniil.