Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks
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I got a hard time seeing a midseason trade working out for anyone.
Think Giannis locks in now that he’s here. Then during the summer if I understand correctly he can demand a trade and then just sign his supermax 6 months later.
Bucks will have an opportunity to cash out our remaining assets at the deadline and/or draft day to persuade him to stay…but idk if we’ll do that this time without an assurance he will.
Think Giannis locks in now that he’s here. Then during the summer if I understand correctly he can demand a trade and then just sign his supermax 6 months later.
Bucks will have an opportunity to cash out our remaining assets at the deadline and/or draft day to persuade him to stay…but idk if we’ll do that this time without an assurance he will.
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paulpressey25 wrote:Now he’ll have only Thanasis and Mom with him in Milwaukee this year. We’ve lost our anchor (i.e. the kids being here)
Just need to hope for a miracle the team is a contender.
The family moving has me spooked.
Insofar as miracles on the court go, we need Turner’s athleticism to unlock things, and at least one of our young guards to emerge to a level well past role player.
Sounds like Horst may also need to pull a rabbit out of his hat before the deadline.
Saving assets for when they accumulate come draft day may be too late.
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Shams has no insider knowledge here. The only thing he reported that wasn't conjecture was that the Knicks called. That's not surprising. Don't let that loser get you down over clickbait garbage.
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raferfenix wrote:I got a hard time seeing a midseason trade working out for anyone.
Think Giannis locks in now that he’s here. Then during the summer if I understand correctly he can demand a trade and then just sign his supermax 6 months later.
Bucks will have an opportunity to cash out our remaining assets at the deadline and/or draft day to persuade him to stay…but idk if we’ll do that this time without an assurance he will.
It will be the ultimate test if this is all a ruse. I’m just over it at this point. If this is the last year I wish we could at least enjoy it but that will be impossible.
Giannis needs to say something about this one way or the other
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ShootingtheJ wrote:Shams has no insider knowledge here. The only thing he reported that wasn't conjecture was that the Knicks called. That's not surprising. Don't let that loser get you down over clickbait garbage.
The Shams report is garbage but it is a pretty good shot at Edens. That guy isn’t going to like that one bit.
The kids moving is the part that feels real though.
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Matches Malone wrote:Licensed to Il wrote:Giannis' time with us is a treasure. And its going to end some day. I guess I don't see what obsessing over when that will be in the here and now does to enhance or enjoy what we still have.
Of course it's going to end. But I'd rather it not end with him screwing over the franchise and we don't get diddly squat to work with moving forward.
And I'd honestly have more respect if he just came out and got it over with instead of doing whatever this is. It's just creating sour tastes in everybody's mouths. Stay or leave, but don't pussyfoot around.
If he leaves, it would suck to not have lottery picks, but big picture the salary cap is the salary cap and how savvy our front office is will be a lot more important than whether we're picking 7th or 17th. We can't replace his 60m with another Giannis (very unlikely to see another Giannis-level player in a Bucks' uniform in my lifetime), but there many much more interesting things we can do than give it to Mikal Bridges and Josh Hart.
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Licensed to Il wrote:The thing about the ESPN article that makes no sense is the timing. The article is saying Giannis didn't ask for a trade in July when pressed and the whole league was watching but then he hatched an exit plan mid August. That makes no sense, and his representation is too smart to let him pass a major opportunity to move on if that is what Giannis wanted. I think there is smoke and fire about the six month window on the extension, which I don't fully understand. But it seems like Giannis is prepared to play the first half of the season here hoping to have a contending team around him, and if not, he wants to move on to an organization that will pay his super max and have a strong plan to contend.
The good news is it seems like he's all in on getting to the finals, here in Milwaukee. The bad news is Horst has built a **** team around him (I like our approach, just wish we had better players).
The timing is maximum negative impact on the Bucks season. Clearly ESPN has an agenda to get Giannis to NYC
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This is annoying as ****
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Even if the Bucks win a championship I don't see Giannis sticking and signing long term with his family in Greece. I can't see him leaving his 4 kids and wife that long. If you are as family oriented as Giannis claims to be, Maybe this is him posturing to get out of Milwaukee? Like I am moving to Greece if you don't trade me kind of thing, and you won't get any compensation for me then.
I am guessing losing the majority of the championship team and getting booted in the first round takes its toll, but as has already been said, Kris, Giannis and Dame were injured during the playoffs... Not many teams can overcome those types of injuries.
I am legit becoming fine with them trading him for a haul. They have a decent core now. Giannis is a wonderful hall of fame player, but he has his limitations. He can't hit 3's, can't set screens, can't hit free throws, can't pick a coach, can't stay healthy in the playoffs, off season drama stuff, He is an acl/Achilles tear risk with all his calf and knee issues. If he doesn't want to be here, don't force him.
Maybe they can do a 3 or 4 team deal to involve more picks from crappier teams?
I am guessing losing the majority of the championship team and getting booted in the first round takes its toll, but as has already been said, Kris, Giannis and Dame were injured during the playoffs... Not many teams can overcome those types of injuries.
I am legit becoming fine with them trading him for a haul. They have a decent core now. Giannis is a wonderful hall of fame player, but he has his limitations. He can't hit 3's, can't set screens, can't hit free throws, can't pick a coach, can't stay healthy in the playoffs, off season drama stuff, He is an acl/Achilles tear risk with all his calf and knee issues. If he doesn't want to be here, don't force him.
Maybe they can do a 3 or 4 team deal to involve more picks from crappier teams?
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It’s wild how much Giannis has embarrassed Wes Edens here.
Whether or not that was intentional it’s a catastrophic PR failure.
What’s the story going to be the next time Giannis is in front of a camera?
As it stands Giannis confirmed Shams’ summer long breathless reporting about a trade demand to come any minute — and there also appears to be fresh leaks to Shams from his inner circle — while the entire Bucks franchise brushes it all off as a complete fabrication.
Whether or not that was intentional it’s a catastrophic PR failure.
What’s the story going to be the next time Giannis is in front of a camera?
As it stands Giannis confirmed Shams’ summer long breathless reporting about a trade demand to come any minute — and there also appears to be fresh leaks to Shams from his inner circle — while the entire Bucks franchise brushes it all off as a complete fabrication.
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If we have to trade Giannis, so be it. But I'm not sending him to the Knicks for peanuts just because he wants to go there. I have a frank convo about how they don't have the assets, and here's a list of teams that do, and pick between them.
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My sports fandom has taken a dip as I've gotten older. I still watch every Bucks/Brewers/Packers game that I can. I can honestly say though that if Giannis is gone I think my Bucks fandom could easily slip further and further away into eventual nothingness. I just have no confidence they'll ever luck into another guy like Giannis. They won a title off his greatness and in spite of themselves. A competent org has multiple rings with the guy. I am forever grateful for the title. Top 10 moment in my life. But when the freak goes, that might be a wrap for me. Not out of protest or anger, but likely just consistent building apathy.
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raferfenix wrote:It’s wild how much Giannis has embarrassed Wes Edens here.
Whether or not that was intentional it’s a catastrophic PR failure.
What’s the story going to be the next time Giannis is in front of a camera?
As it stands Giannis confirmed Shams’ summer long breathless reporting about a trade demand to come any minute — and there also appears to be fresh leaks to Shams from his inner circle — while the entire Bucks franchise brushes it all off as a complete fabrication.
Eh, I don't think anything about it was "catastrophic". Outside of for maybe 100 or so Bucks fans on an internet message board. Hell it isn't even on the ESPN home page. Shams tweets something, it gets 10 minutes of attention and it's buried under football and baseball playoffs. I get why people here get riled up about all things Giannis, we're diehard Bucks fans. But we are a tiny tiny minority in the sports world.
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I don’t know. I’m still not sweating this. Shams reporting doesn’t change anything for me. Giannis moving his family to Greece is the new piece of info, but really not all that surprising, considering he’s Greek, and his kids are now going into school.
This doesn't have to be foreboding.
His family in Greece will be a new challenge for Giannis, but that challenge isn’t unique to Milwaukee. That challenge would be the same anywhere else in the NBA.
This doesn't have to be foreboding.
His family in Greece will be a new challenge for Giannis, but that challenge isn’t unique to Milwaukee. That challenge would be the same anywhere else in the NBA.
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ReasonablySober wrote:Giannis moving the family to Greece was the sign that things are all but over in Milwaukee. With nothing tethering him to the town he's gonna be free to play wherever he wants. Hell, an East coast team means shorter flights to Europe.
Eh, you might be right. But I think he would have done that no matter where he played. Immigrants with means will often send their kids back to the home country when they're young so that they can learn the language and the culture. That's without considering the political climate in the US right now, which also could have been a factor for him.
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German Athens wrote:I don’t know. I’m still not sweating this. Shams reporting doesn’t change anything for me. Giannis moving his family to Greece is the new piece of info, but really not all that surprising, considering he’s Greek, and his kids are now going into school.
This doesn't have to be foreboding.
His family in Greece will be a new challenge for Giannis, but that challenge isn’t unique to Milwaukee. That challenge would be the same anywhere else in the NBA.
Agree. It's telling that Giannis didn't move his family to New York.
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The man litterally says he could sign a supermax with any team hes traded too six months after being traded.tyland wrote:Garbs_7 wrote:tyland wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46510104/why-giannis-antetokounmpo-future-milwaukee-far-settled
Not sure what to think of this
I get the instant reaction to say **** Shams and its all BS but I think this is the most real it's ever been. If it's true which I think considering everything it probably is, he has given another team name he would be happy to go to and the teams, if only briefly, talked actual trade terms about it.
We are in the endgame now, 2026 is absolutely a crunch year if Giannis stays here for the next few years.
That was my thinking about it.
I generally don't read Shams stuff, but this is the closest to a suggestion that he might ask out that I have seen. Which makes me quite nervous
He's quite litterally lying and hoping people are too stupid to notice
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At this point just trade him if he's moving his family, keeps one foot out and never has anything definitive to say. For the longest, and really up until now I thought it was just posturing to help make the next "big" move. It's getting old hearing about all of this and wondering if we can please him enough.
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I will say, after everything that happened with Dame leaving his team to try and chase greatness and how terribly that went, I figured that would have a bigger impact on Giannis thinking twice about leaving.
Sure, he's twice the player Dame is and can make most teams awesome, but the grass isn't always greener, and you're not guaranteed instant chemistry with your new team/city and another organization that will break their back for a soon to be 31-year-old moving forward like Milwaukee would. He could get courted for a year or two and then that team bails on him or it goes bad, and he's shipped off to a worse situation than if he just stayed here.
Sure, he's twice the player Dame is and can make most teams awesome, but the grass isn't always greener, and you're not guaranteed instant chemistry with your new team/city and another organization that will break their back for a soon to be 31-year-old moving forward like Milwaukee would. He could get courted for a year or two and then that team bails on him or it goes bad, and he's shipped off to a worse situation than if he just stayed here.
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RRyder823 wrote:The man litterally says he could sign a supermax with any team hes traded too six months after being traded.tyland wrote:Garbs_7 wrote:
I get the instant reaction to say **** Shams and its all BS but I think this is the most real it's ever been. If it's true which I think considering everything it probably is, he has given another team name he would be happy to go to and the teams, if only briefly, talked actual trade terms about it.
We are in the endgame now, 2026 is absolutely a crunch year if Giannis stays here for the next few years.
That was my thinking about it.
I generally don't read Shams stuff, but this is the closest to a suggestion that he might ask out that I have seen. Which makes me quite nervous
He's quite litterally lying and hoping people are too stupid to notice
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So he can’t sign a super max with a new team six months after a trade?