Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[JBucks]

A Bucks sales rep just called and asked for my thoughts on what's going on with the team. Nice guy. We ended up speaking for about 20 minutes, and he didn't even make the ticket pitch until the end, when he mentioned an open house tomorrow night.

He was pretty thorough, even asking what free agents the Bucks should sign. I told him Bledsoe and nobody else, and he asked my opinion on whether the Suns would match, so on and so forth.

[MadBlueEdwards]

FREE AGENCY
Byron Mullens- C-PF 1.5m/1y
Jimmer Fredette- SG-PG - 1.2m/1y

Yuck

if your too blind to see or too feeble to comprehend - they were after Bledsoe is signed and most cap space is gone and they are 11th & 12th man

Yeah, I read all of that. Just don't like Byron Mullens - even as an 11th or 12th guy.

[Matches Malone]

A Bucks sales rep just called and asked for my thoughts on what's going on with the team. Nice guy. We ended up speaking for about 20 minutes, and he didn't even make the ticket pitch until the end, when he mentioned an open house tomorrow night.

He was pretty thorough, even asking what free agents the Bucks should sign. I told him Bledsoe and nobody else, and he asked my opinion on whether the Suns would match, so on and so forth.

Lucky! I got asked what I thought about Jason Kidd, told him my thoughts and got a "cool" and proceeded with ticket pitches. weeeee

[LUKE23]

If you believe Parker will only play 45-50 games, that means you think he will be injured for 32-37 games. Because the guy is going to play every game he's healthy and likely play big minutes.

[skones]

There is nothing the Bucks board hates more than realized potential.

Seriously, why is it constantly about getting younger and rawer? There's nothing wrong with brining in a 24 year old. 4 years from now when Parker and Giannis are hopefully blossoming Bledsoe would still be young. Not every core player needs to be the same age.

Except that's not even the primary argument against him.

[msiris]

I agree with the bolded part of your post. If Bledsoe is one of the top point guards in the league, then sign him. I just don't think he's shown it. Averaging 8 points and 3 assists a year over four years doesn't tell me he is special. It is a huge leap of faith to project stardom for someone who has been consistently mediocre. The only argument against this is that he has been injured for 2 or 3 of those years. But then that raises the whole "can he stay injury free" issue.

I like Bledsoe a lot. Just not on a max contract. He is a talented player. He is not a star like some people here think, but he is not bad as you make him out to be either. I would like him as a Buck , but only for the right price.

[MickeyDavis]

I think the reservations about maxing out Bledsoe are warranted. When is the last time a big money contract worked out well for us? Virtually every big deal has ended up costing us far more than money. Sanders was the latest and it wasn't even a max deal.

Personally I'd roll the dice on Bledsoe but I think it's far from a sure thing.

[MadBlueEdwards]

I agree with the bolded part of your post. If Bledsoe is one of the top point guards in the league, then sign him. I just don't think he's shown it. Averaging 8 points and 3 assists a year over four years doesn't tell me he is special. It is a huge leap of faith to project stardom for someone who has been consistently mediocre. The only argument against this is that he has been injured for 2 or 3 of those years. But then that raises the whole "can he stay injury free" issue.

I don't completely disagree with you, but you should look at more than just PPG/APG. There's a lot more to the story.

[ReasonablySober]

Bledsoe is not a very good passer.

His career totals show points per game at 8.7 and assists at 3.4. Not good for someone entering his fifth year.

Omg dude I know, it's like how everyone thought Aaron Rodgers was so good, but after three years in the league, he barely had any touchdowns! Scrub!

You have to go to a different sport to make your case that Bledsoe will suddenly become an MVP? One minor difference. Rodgers didn't play his first three years. Bledsoe has. And I guess by your post that you, and you alone, knew Rodgers was that good. Any more examples?

How about this 6'3" point guard that averaged 9/3 in his 4th year.

[Diggr14]

Bledsoe is completely overrated by this board. On top of that, the pipe dream of not surrendering at least a #1 pick next season for him is also crazy. Throw in at least 12M per... ugh... facepalm.

6'1 point guards that dont pass.... you'd think that we would be over that by now. Apparently not for some posters.

Unlike our other 6'1" PGs, Bledsoe defends and scores efficiently.

He has a track record of ... 1 year of moderate success.

SANDERS! says hi.

I can't believe max money is being talked about for his production... just, wow. Stay the course with Nate and a middling level FA. No reason to be doing something epicly stupid like bringing Bledsoe in at that kind of money. This team needs more top end lotto talent on the cheap. We need to be building for about 3 years from now when we can start extending guys that warrant it in house. Right before we extend guys like Giannis/Parker (if they live up to the hype)... that is the time to be adding Free Agents to make a push.

[LUKE23]

So instead of paying an impact young guy big money, we should sign a "middling FA" who takes minutes from our young guys while also not impacting wins in a meaningful way?

[JimmyTheKid]

Jay Mohr absolutely killed the supposed NBA "experts" from 11:00-11:30 if you want a good laugh.

Have I missed anything in the last 24 hours? Has everyone figured out that we're not bad enough to tank this year unless we trade Larry Sanders? And why should we trade Larry Sanders when his value is currently equivalent to a bag of dog sh*t? We're just not going to be top-of-the-lottery bad so I see no reason not to go after Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a very, very good start.

[LUKE23]

Jay Mohr absolutely killed the supposed NBA "experts" from 11:00-11:30 if you want a good laugh.

Have I missed anything in the last 24 hours? Has everyone figured out that we're not bad enough to tank this year unless we trade Larry Sanders? And why should we trade Larry Sanders when his value is currently equivalent to a bag of dog sh*t? We're just not going to be top-of-the-lottery bad so I see no reason not to go after Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a very, very good start.

Yep.

[bigkurty]

Jay Mohr absolutely killed the supposed NBA "experts" from 11:00-11:30 if you want a good laugh.

Have I missed anything in the last 24 hours? Has everyone figured out that we're not bad enough to tank this year unless we trade Larry Sanders? And why should we trade Larry Sanders when his value is currently equivalent to a bag of dog sh*t? We're just not going to be top-of-the-lottery bad so I see no reason not to go after Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a very, very good start.

Is there a pod cast link? what was this on?

[lopey986]

I think the reservations about maxing out Bledsoe are warranted. When is the last time a big money contract worked out well for us? Virtually every big deal has ended up costing us far more than money. Sanders was the latest and it wasn't even a max deal.

Personally I'd roll the dice on Bledsoe but I think it's far from a sure thing.

Meh, you can't NEVER sign a guy to a bigger contract just because past ones haven't worked out. There are TYPES of big money contracts they should avoid (those like the ones for Gooden and Salmons - guys past their primes or entering the downslide). I don't think a 4/48 deal for Bledsoe is going to end up hurting the Bucks in any meaningful way.

[MiltownHawkeye]

Bledsoe is not a very good passer.

His career totals show points per game at 8.7 and assists at 3.4. Not good for someone entering his fifth year.

Omg dude I know, it's like how everyone thought Aaron Rodgers was so good, but after three years in the league, he barely had any touchdowns! Scrub!

You have to go to a different sport to make your case that Bledsoe will suddenly become an MVP? One minor difference. Rodgers didn't play his first three years. Bledsoe has. And I guess by your post that you, and you alone, knew Rodgers was that good. Any more examples?

You can't be missing the point any harder.

Using career averages to judge a player in the NBA is extremelu flawed. Especially so in the case of a 4-year player that was stuck behind the best PG in the game for two of them.

[theFireBlanket]

Bledsoe is completely overrated by this board. On top of that, the pipe dream of not surrendering at least a #1 pick next season for him is also crazy. Throw in at least 12M per... ugh... facepalm.

6'1 point guards that dont pass.... you'd think that we would be over that by now. Apparently not for some posters.

Unlike our other 6'1" PGs, Bledsoe defends and scores efficiently.

Umm..., make that 6'4, capable of dishing, defending and scoring efficiently (likely to improve, since it was one of his main strengths in college).

[Ron Swanson]

Jay Mohr absolutely killed the supposed NBA "experts" from 11:00-11:30 if you want a good laugh.

Have I missed anything in the last 24 hours? Has everyone figured out that we're not bad enough to tank this year unless we trade Larry Sanders? And why should we trade Larry Sanders when his value is currently equivalent to a bag of dog sh*t? We're just not going to be top-of-the-lottery bad so I see no reason not to go after Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a very, very good start.

Pretty much spot on. Bledsoe/Parker/Giannis gives you arguably the best core trio at or under 24 years old in the league. I'm completely bewildered by the fact that people wouldn't even offer him a max contract just because they believe he doesn't fit in some theoretical "championship window" 6 years from now.

The irony is that, even if we stick to the "OKC model" and tank for 2-3 years for high picks, we would still need to find gems in the latter part of the draft (Ibaka, Reggie Jackson) to supplement the core anyways. So this idea that we can't win too many games "until we're ready to contend" just doesn't happen in even the most extreme examples of gradual rebuilding.

Young talent is young talent. This idea that we are going to tank, get lucky in the lottery, draft three straight 19-20 year old future all-star players, and have them all grow together with a clean cap slate is a pipe dream.

The OKC model is incredibly difficult if not nearly impossible to successfully replicate. And that isn't even going into the fact that, if Giannis, Parker, and our theoretical 2015 high lotto pick all turn into all-stars and form the next "big 3", you're not going to be able to keep all of them past a 4 year window anyways because they will all be up for max deals (see: OKC/Harden).

[JimmyTheKid]

Jay Mohr absolutely killed the supposed NBA "experts" from 11:00-11:30 if you want a good laugh.

Have I missed anything in the last 24 hours? Has everyone figured out that we're not bad enough to tank this year unless we trade Larry Sanders? And why should we trade Larry Sanders when his value is currently equivalent to a bag of dog sh*t? We're just not going to be top-of-the-lottery bad so I see no reason not to go after Eric Bledsoe. Bledsoe/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a very, very good start.

Is there a pod cast link? what was this on?

920 AM in Milwaukee.

[wichmae]

Just to chime in again. I personally want no part of any free agent. Especially on with one year of true (health) success. In no way shape or form is Eric Bledsoe worth a max contract. Just stay away from FA's