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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1041 » by Balls2TheWalls » Fri Dec 6, 2019 3:53 pm

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DingleJerry wrote:Yea I'd be all for a Redick trade if possible. Surprised he signed onto NO given he only has a couple good years left. I guess maybe they were the only ones giving the 2nd year and he figures he'd just get traded to a contender if he keeps doing well and NO isn't good.


To be fair, they had playoff expectations this season since Zion was healthy at the time. He wasn't expecting to be playing for a bad team.


Didn't he pick them over the Sixers though? I would think if he wanted playoffs/championship runs he would have stayed in Philly. I would also be much more afraid of them if they still had Redick.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

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DingleJerry wrote:Yea I'd be all for a Redick trade if possible. Surprised he signed onto NO given he only has a couple good years left. I guess maybe they were the only ones giving the 2nd year and he figures he'd just get traded to a contender if he keeps doing well and NO isn't good.


To be fair, they had playoff expectations this season since Zion was healthy at the time. He wasn't expecting to be playing for a bad team.


Didn't he pick them over the Sixers though? I would think if he wanted playoffs/championship runs he would have stayed in Philly. I would also be much more afraid of them if they still had Redick.


I don’t think so but I could be mistaken. I thought Philly wanted to move on and use that cap space on Horford.


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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1043 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Dec 6, 2019 4:06 pm

Realistically I’m only interested in a deal where we’d move Middleton+ for a higher impact guy. Go big or go home. No use in tinkering with spare parts when they’re playing this well.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1044 » by DingleJerry » Fri Dec 6, 2019 4:18 pm

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DingleJerry wrote:Yea I'd be all for a Redick trade if possible. Surprised he signed onto NO given he only has a couple good years left. I guess maybe they were the only ones giving the 2nd year and he figures he'd just get traded to a contender if he keeps doing well and NO isn't good.


To be fair, they had playoff expectations this season since Zion was healthy at the time. He wasn't expecting to be playing for a bad team.


Didn't he pick them over the Sixers though? I would think if he wanted playoffs/championship runs he would have stayed in Philly. I would also be much more afraid of them if they still had Redick.


I mean if people really thought NO could compete for the playoffs this year more power to them. But they were delusional. They were fringe playoff team with AD and now he's gone and replaced with a rookie and guys everyone ripped in LA. They've even gotten lucky with how good Ingram has become and I'd still say they had no chance even if Zion was healthy. Their season Win total odds was 31 for a reason.

He was really good in Philly last year. I was really surprised he went to NO. Spitballing teams besides MKE that could maybe make things work for him, how about Dallas perched up around Luka? I don't want him on a EAst contender, he doesn't fit in Phi or Bos situations anyway but maybe Tor or Miami could make it work.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1045 » by machu46 » Fri Dec 6, 2019 4:35 pm

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To be fair, they had playoff expectations this season since Zion was healthy at the time. He wasn't expecting to be playing for a bad team.


Didn't he pick them over the Sixers though? I would think if he wanted playoffs/championship runs he would have stayed in Philly. I would also be much more afraid of them if they still had Redick.


I mean if people really thought NO could compete for the playoffs this year more power to them. But they were delusional. They were fringe playoff team with AD and now he's gone and replaced with a rookie and guys everyone ripped in LA. They've even gotten lucky with how good Ingram has become and I'd still say they had no chance even if Zion was healthy. Their season Win total odds was 31 for a reason.

He was really good in Philly last year. I was really surprised he went to NO. Spitballing teams besides MKE that could maybe make things work for him, how about Dallas perched up around Luka? I don't want him on a EAst contender, he doesn't fit in Phi or Bos situations anyway but maybe Tor or Miami could make it work.


I'd tend to agree that people were overly optimistic about New Orleans, but FWIW, their over/under closed at like 39 or 40 wins, which would put them right around the bubble for the last playoff spot.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1046 » by DingleJerry » Fri Dec 6, 2019 4:51 pm

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Didn't he pick them over the Sixers though? I would think if he wanted playoffs/championship runs he would have stayed in Philly. I would also be much more afraid of them if they still had Redick.


I mean if people really thought NO could compete for the playoffs this year more power to them. But they were delusional. They were fringe playoff team with AD and now he's gone and replaced with a rookie and guys everyone ripped in LA. They've even gotten lucky with how good Ingram has become and I'd still say they had no chance even if Zion was healthy. Their season Win total odds was 31 for a reason.

He was really good in Philly last year. I was really surprised he went to NO. Spitballing teams besides MKE that could maybe make things work for him, how about Dallas perched up around Luka? I don't want him on a EAst contender, he doesn't fit in Phi or Bos situations anyway but maybe Tor or Miami could make it work.


I'd tend to agree that people were overly optimistic about New Orleans, but FWIW, their over/under closed at like 39 or 40 wins, which would put them right around the bubble for the last playoff spot.


Well sorry if I was wrong. I googled to double check before I posted that and first thing I clicked said 31. Didn't dig deeper than that. yes 39-40ish is at least fringe-y but in the West still unlikely as they don't have the .500 teams making it like in the East. I'd also say it was set high to prey on the Zion hype. But either way, point taken seems I was off.
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Post#1047 » by SirChurros » Fri Dec 6, 2019 4:55 pm

Redick really would be an ideal fit for this roster.
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Post#1048 » by raferfenix » Fri Dec 6, 2019 6:02 pm

I didn’t realize Redick’s stats were still so good at 35 years old.

This season he’s at approximately 15 ppg in 28 mins with 7 three ball attempts making .471%.

He had similar stats last year too so it’s no fluke.

Redick being on a 2-year contract also means acquiring him wouldn’t be just for this season.

He makes $13 million per year which seems fair and easy enough for us to work out salary slots for if we were serious about acquiring him.
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Post#1049 » by raferfenix » Fri Dec 6, 2019 6:10 pm

What exactly did Redick say about Milwaukee on his way out last time?

If it weren’t for that this board might have already been clamoring for him a while ago.

If Redick merely made fun of Herb’s ownership or the front office that’s different than trashing the city or the people.

The Bucks actually had him playing SF alongside Jennings and Monta. I wouldn’t begrudge him being sore about that at the time a decade ago.

Playing with Giannis would be a different story.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1050 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Dec 6, 2019 6:31 pm

Who really cares about how much he hated being here 6 years ago? Things change. People change. It's not like Philadelphia is some warm weather mecca of culture and prestige, and he spent nearly 3 years there. And I don't think he's the kind of guy that would pout his way off a 60-win contender and the best chance he has at getting a ring in his entire career.
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Post#1051 » by jschligs » Fri Dec 6, 2019 6:53 pm

What are some realistic trades for Redick?
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Post#1052 » by JoeyMorgan619 » Fri Dec 6, 2019 7:23 pm

raferfenix wrote:What exactly did Redick say about Milwaukee on his way out last time?

If it weren’t for that this board might have already been clamoring for him a while ago.

If Redick merely made fun of Herb’s ownership or the front office that’s different than trashing the city or the people.

The Bucks actually had him playing SF alongside Jennings and Monta. I wouldn’t begrudge him being sore about that at the time a decade ago.

Playing with Giannis would be a different story.


I seem to remember him liking or responding to things on Twitter criticizing Boylan in his last few games here. I don't ever recall him saying anything bad about the city of organization. I could be wrong though.
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Post#1053 » by crkone » Fri Dec 6, 2019 7:33 pm

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raferfenix wrote:What exactly did Redick say about Milwaukee on his way out last time?

If it weren’t for that this board might have already been clamoring for him a while ago.

If Redick merely made fun of Herb’s ownership or the front office that’s different than trashing the city or the people.

The Bucks actually had him playing SF alongside Jennings and Monta. I wouldn’t begrudge him being sore about that at the time a decade ago.

Playing with Giannis would be a different story.


I seem to remember him liking or responding to things on Twitter criticizing Boylan in his last few games here. I don't ever recall him saying anything bad about the city of organization. I could be wrong though.


I think it was something he said in his podcast.

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Post#1054 » by Balls2TheWalls » Fri Dec 6, 2019 7:38 pm

I know that it was made clear through the media well before the season was over that he had no interest in coming back to Milwaukee. That was right before his big contract in LA. That was the season when we almost went all in on Josh Smith.
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Post#1055 » by raferfenix » Fri Dec 6, 2019 7:39 pm

Redick for the Pacers pick + Ersan + Matthews + Sterling Brown works salary wise.

J.J. and Wes and other players signed over the summer can get traded after Dec. 14.
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Post#1056 » by DingleJerry » Fri Dec 6, 2019 7:48 pm

jschligs wrote:What are some realistic trades for Redick?


Start with Ersan's contract. It's not as easy as it seems. Adding Wes isn't enough money. Robin Lopez would the one that gets them there but you know they're not moving him due to his bro and that they need him vs Philly. Don't think we'd want to give DJ since we'd be without Ersan. But I guess you'd just have to keep adding in the bottom roster guys like Brown/Pat until you got enough money. Then whatever else in picks, hopefully just 2nds.
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Post#1058 » by DingleJerry » Fri Dec 6, 2019 7:50 pm

Balls2TheWalls wrote:I know that it was made clear through the media well before the season was over that he had no interest in coming back to Milwaukee. That was right before his big contract in LA. That was the season when we almost went all in on Josh Smith.


Well signing onto this Bucks team is much different than signing as FA in your prime for the joke of a team we had back then.
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Post#1059 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Fri Dec 6, 2019 7:56 pm

Redick is a near perfect fit....and being signed through next year makes him an even better

the Pels won't want scraps...they'll want young controllable talent and picks

probably wouldn't get anywhere in talks without DDV and the Pacers pick for starters
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1060 » by Diggr14 » Fri Dec 6, 2019 8:08 pm

jschligs wrote:What are some realistic trades for Redick?



DJ Wilson, Wes, and a 2nd would get it done i think. But I really dont think we should be trading DJ. We should be extending him and DDV when we can.
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