Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks

[GrandAdmiralDan]

It would be odd if the report about Giannis moving his family to Greek was inaccurate or untrue, as that would be a very strange thing to misreport.

I'm not familiar with that source, though. Has this been corroborated or confirmed elsewhere?

Wouldn't this be something ESPN and Shams have included in their reporting?

[RRyder823]

That was my thinking about it.

I generally don't read Shams stuff, but this is the closest to a suggestion that he might ask out that I have seen. Which makes me quite nervous

The man litterally says he could sign a supermax with any team hes traded too six months after being traded.

He's quite litterally lying and hoping people are too stupid to notice

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So he can’t sign a super max with a new team six months after a trade?

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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[HKPackFan]

Is it speculation or fact that kids and Mariah are staying in Greece?

[DanoMac]

I will say, after everything that happened with Dame leaving his team to try and chase greatness and how terribly that went, I figured that would have a bigger impact on Giannis thinking twice about leaving.

Yep, plus you’ve got guys like Dwight Howard and Shaq telling him to stay, warning him it won’t be what he’s expecting

[ReasonablySober]

The man litterally says he could sign a supermax with any team hes traded too six months after being traded.

He's quite litterally lying and hoping people are too stupid to notice

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So he can’t sign a super max with a new team six months after a trade?

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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Someone smarter than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but Shams seems to be right.

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant
to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran
Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that
covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into,
264 Article VII
were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection
with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to
Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded
before six (6) months following the date on which such
Extension or Renegotiation was signed. If a team acquires
a player in a trade, then, for a period of six (6) months
following the date of the trade, the team may not enter into
(X) an Extension with the player pursuant to Section 7(a)
above that covers five (5) Seasons (or, if the trade occurred
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such trade occurred, were
permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (Y) a

[brewbucks]

It’s wild how much Giannis has embarrassed Wes Edens here.

Whether or not that was intentional it’s a catastrophic PR failure.

What’s the story going to be the next time Giannis is in front of a camera?

As it stands Giannis confirmed Shams’ summer long breathless reporting about a trade demand to come any minute — and there also appears to be fresh leaks to Shams from his inner circle — while the entire Bucks franchise brushes it all off as a complete fabrication.

Eh, I don't think anything about it was "catastrophic". Outside of for maybe 100 or so Bucks fans on an internet message board. Hell it isn't even on the ESPN home page. Shams tweets something, it gets 10 minutes of attention and it's buried under football and baseball playoffs. I get why people here get riled up about all things Giannis, we're diehard Bucks fans. But we are a tiny tiny minority in the sports world.

Yeah I was lurking on the NBA Reddit this morning and some people thought Wes was the Bucks GM. On top of it very few people read the article or deep dive from there in this era of life. They’ll just see the header Giannis and Knicks.

[sidney lanier]

The list is a painful recital
Rodgers Giannis and Favre just one title
But then teams that get two
Are exceedingly few
And to win it at all is what's vital

Like others, I'm grateful for what Giannis brought to us. If he doesn't have the fire in the belly anymore, or wants to move on because the fire is burning too hot, or wants to live a graceful retirement sipping Ouzo, that's up to him. He took us to the top of the mountain, and he can climb down any way he wants.

[RRyder823]

So he can’t sign a super max with a new team six months after a trade?

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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Someone smarter than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but Shams seems to be right.

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant
to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran
Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that
covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into,
264 Article VII
were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection
with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to
Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded
before six (6) months following the date on which such
Extension or Renegotiation was signed. If a team acquires
a player in a trade, then, for a period of six (6) months
following the date of the trade, the team may not enter into
(X) an Extension with the player pursuant to Section 7(a)
above that covers five (5) Seasons (or, if the trade occurred
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such trade occurred, were
permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (Y) a

While that reads like stereo instructions I might be wrong but as far as I know...



To be eligible for an NBA supermax contract extension, a player must be entering their eighth or ninth season, have been with the team that drafted them (or traded for them on their rookie deal) for their entire career, and have achieved one of the following in the preceding seasons: selection to an All-NBA team, winning NBA MVP, or winning the Defensive Player of the Year award.

Key Criteria for Supermax Eligibility
Years of Service: The player must be entering their eighth or ninth year in the NBA.

Team Loyalty: The player must be on the team that originally drafted them or traded for them on their rookie scale contract.

Award Criteria: The player must have met at least one of the following criteria within the three seasons preceding the contract extension:
All-NBA Team: Selected to the All-NBA First, Second, or Third Team.
MVP: Won the NBA Most Valuable Player award.
Defensive Player of the Year (DPOY): Won the Defensive Player of the Year award.

I'd really need it explained why Luka wasn't supermax eligible after being traded if Giannis still would be

If im wrong so be it and I retract my statement about the blatant lie. Shams is still a hack just driving clicks at the start of the preseason and that ill stand by


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[ReasonablySober]

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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Someone smarter than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but Shams seems to be right.

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant
to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran
Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that
covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into,
264 Article VII
were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection
with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to
Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded
before six (6) months following the date on which such
Extension or Renegotiation was signed. If a team acquires
a player in a trade, then, for a period of six (6) months
following the date of the trade, the team may not enter into
(X) an Extension with the player pursuant to Section 7(a)
above that covers five (5) Seasons (or, if the trade occurred
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such trade occurred, were
permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (Y) a

While that reads like stereo instructions I might be wrong but as far as I know...



To be eligible for an NBA supermax contract extension, a player must be entering their eighth or ninth season, have been with the team that drafted them (or traded for them on their rookie deal) for their entire career, and have achieved one of the following in the preceding seasons: selection to an All-NBA team, winning NBA MVP, or winning the Defensive Player of the Year award.

Key Criteria for Supermax Eligibility
Years of Service: The player must be entering their eighth or ninth year in the NBA.

Team Loyalty: The player must be on the team that originally drafted them or traded for them on their rookie scale contract.

Award Criteria: The player must have met at least one of the following criteria within the three seasons preceding the contract extension:
All-NBA Team: Selected to the All-NBA First, Second, or Third Team.
MVP: Won the NBA Most Valuable Player award.
Defensive Player of the Year (DPOY): Won the Defensive Player of the Year award.

I'd really need it explained why Luka wasn't supermax eligible after being traded if Giannis still would be


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I think it's because Giannis has ten years in the league and Luka doesn't.

[aboveAverage]

Hopefully this extra pressure from Giannis and his camp means that the owners will consider a head coach change sooner than they would’ve preferred if we don’t start the season off well.

Give us a better coach, a few trade deadline deals, and some luck, and I think we can be a decent contender. Next season should be even better with more options for Horst. I think we will be fine and will be able to convince Giannis to stay for at least this season.

Not sure what to make of him moving his family to Greece. If that’s true, I’m not sure it’s related to the Bucks or Milwaukee in general.

[StickeeFingaz]

I find it very hard to believe that his kids are going to be in Greece while he’s playing ball in Milwaukee.

[Prez]

The family moving to Greece stuff is bizarre and it would be bizarre regardless of the team he’s playing on in the NBA, even if he were to get traded. It doesn’t make any sense.

[humanrefutation]

I find it very hard to believe that his kids are going to be in Greece while he’s playing ball in Milwaukee.

It happens all the time with immigrant families, the vast majority of whom do not have private jets that they can hop on at a moment's notice to reunite at will. I have relatives who spent years apart from their kids - sans a visit here or there - because they had to work in one country to afford a decent lifestyle for their kids in another.

I don't see this as particularly extraordinary and I don't see a relationship with a potential trade request unless you think we're trading him to Panathinaikos.

[emunney]

So he can’t sign a super max with a new team six months after a trade?

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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Someone smarter than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but Shams seems to be right.

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant
to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran
Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that
covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into,
264 Article VII
were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection
with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to
Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded
before six (6) months following the date on which such
Extension or Renegotiation was signed. If a team acquires
a player in a trade, then, for a period of six (6) months
following the date of the trade, the team may not enter into
(X) an Extension with the player pursuant to Section 7(a)
above that covers five (5) Seasons (or, if the trade occurred
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such trade occurred, were
permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (Y) a

The keys here are what the supermax is and how many years of service Giannis has. The supermax gives you 30% of the cap if you've met certain criteria. It typically only applies to guys getting their 2nd contracts, because once you have 7 years of service, you are eligible for that 30% figure anyway. And once you have 10 years of service, you can get 35% of the cap. In all cases, your personal max salary is either that proportion of the cap applying to your circumstance or 105% of your previous salary, whichever is greater.

You can also hit the 35% level early if you don't change teams (except by a trade during your rookie deal). But Giannis is about to enter year 13. He's 35% no matter what.

[tydett]

I pulled a Supreme and asked ChatGPT about the max salary for Giannis and it told me that he makes too much money to contribute to a Roth IRA so I hope he's getting his post-career affairs in order and has a good accountant.

[jakecronus8]

Any chance that once Giannis' current deal expires he just plays in Greece for a few years before retiring?

[emunney]

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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Someone smarter than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but Shams seems to be right.

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant
to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran
Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that
covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into,
264 Article VII
were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection
with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to
Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded
before six (6) months following the date on which such
Extension or Renegotiation was signed. If a team acquires
a player in a trade, then, for a period of six (6) months
following the date of the trade, the team may not enter into
(X) an Extension with the player pursuant to Section 7(a)
above that covers five (5) Seasons (or, if the trade occurred
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such trade occurred, were
permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (Y) a

While that reads like stereo instructions I might be wrong but as far as I know...



To be eligible for an NBA supermax contract extension, a player must be entering their eighth or ninth season, have been with the team that drafted them (or traded for them on their rookie deal) for their entire career, and have achieved one of the following in the preceding seasons: selection to an All-NBA team, winning NBA MVP, or winning the Defensive Player of the Year award.

Key Criteria for Supermax Eligibility
Years of Service: The player must be entering their eighth or ninth year in the NBA.

Team Loyalty: The player must be on the team that originally drafted them or traded for them on their rookie scale contract.

Award Criteria: The player must have met at least one of the following criteria within the three seasons preceding the contract extension:
All-NBA Team: Selected to the All-NBA First, Second, or Third Team.
MVP: Won the NBA Most Valuable Player award.
Defensive Player of the Year (DPOY): Won the Defensive Player of the Year award.

I'd really need it explained why Luka wasn't supermax eligible after being traded if Giannis still would be

If im wrong so be it and I retract my statement about the blatant lie. Shams is still a hack just driving clicks at the start of the preseason and that ill stand by


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Luka's extension starts at 30% of the 26/27 cap because he has fewer than 10 years of service and has changed teams after his rookie deal. Right now that's 49.8m but it can change according to how accurate the league's cap projections turn out.

[aboveAverage]

Any chance that once Giannis' current deal expires he just plays in Greece for a few years before retiring?

Unlikely. He just released a video on Instagram talking about building a legacy and how important it is to him. He wants another championship. From the vibes I got, it seemed like he would really like that second title to be with the Bucks.

[PG Graveyard]

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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Someone smarter than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but Shams seems to be right.

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant
to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran
Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that
covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into,
264 Article VII
were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection
with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to
Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded
before six (6) months following the date on which such
Extension or Renegotiation was signed. If a team acquires
a player in a trade, then, for a period of six (6) months
following the date of the trade, the team may not enter into
(X) an Extension with the player pursuant to Section 7(a)
above that covers five (5) Seasons (or, if the trade occurred
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such trade occurred, were
permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (Y) a

The keys here are what the supermax is and how many years of service Giannis has. The supermax gives you 30% of the cap if you've met certain criteria. It typically only applies to guys getting their 2nd contracts, because once you have 7 years of service, you are eligible for that 30% figure anyway. And once you have 10 years of service, you can get 35% of the cap. In all cases, your personal max salary is either that proportion of the cap applying to your circumstance or 105% of your previous salary, whichever is greater.

You can also hit the 35% level early if you don't change teams (except by a trade during your rookie deal). But Giannis is about to enter year 13. He's 35% no matter what.

So Shams was right about that part but the rest was gossipy garbage that wouldn’t make it in the National Enquirer

[Matches Malone]

Any chance that once Giannis' current deal expires he just plays in Greece for a few years before retiring?

It would suck for the Bucks asset wise, but selfishly I'd almost prefer it than seeing him dawn another NBA jersey. Think he wants more NBA rings though first.

He could move on from the Bucks, and it ends in him winning more titles and everything he envisions, but there's also a world in which it backfires, and he gets Shaq'd around the league and winds up playing with 6 different organizations before it's all said and done. For someone like Giannis who talks about legacy a lot, I'm not sure he'd want to finish out like that.