Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks (NO TPE)

[emunney]

Horst is the GM and if he was unable to sell ownership on the virtues of having that TPE, knowing that Lasry as governor could veto any trade that used up enough of it to hit the lux tax threshold, then that is his failure to own. It seems bizarre to me that a high stakes poker player like Lasry wouldn't want to have that tool at his disposal, even if he chose to keep it on the shelf. And because it lasts a full year, we wouldn't even have had to use it during this league year. Could have been a tool for FA or trades *next* summer.

Trash.

[GrandAdmiralDan]

Horst is the GM and if he was unable to sell ownership on the virtues of having that TPE, knowing that Lasry as governor could veto any trade that used up enough of it to hit the lux tax threshold, then that is his failure to own. It seems bizarre to me that a high stakes poker player like Lasry wouldn't want to have that tool at his disposal, even if he chose to keep it on the shelf. And because it lasts a full year, we wouldn't even have had to use it during this league year. Could have been a tool for FA or trades *next* summer.

Trash.

Completely agree.

And has been said, we would have, without taking any additional steps, been able to utilize the vast majority of that TPE this season without crossing the lux tax threshold. With a small amount of additional creativity, we could have used the whole thing.

OR, let's say we trade Ersan at the trade deadline and receive a player back that fits into the Brogdon TPE. Now we just generated a new $7.1 mil TPE from trading Ersan that doesn't expire until February 2021.

It's just absurd to have removed this tool from our toolbox.

[humanrefutation]

Have we seen any reporting saying that the BOG has approved the switch from Edens to Lasry? They've been meeting this week so I imagine that's when the vote would take place.

[tski1972]

Horst is the GM and if he was unable to sell ownership on the virtues of having that TPE, knowing that Lasry as governor could veto any trade that used up enough of it to hit the lux tax threshold, then that is his failure to own. It seems bizarre to me that a high stakes poker player like Lasry wouldn't want to have that tool at his disposal, even if he chose to keep it on the shelf. And because it lasts a full year, we wouldn't even have had to use it during this league year. Could have been a tool for FA or trades *next* summer.

Trash.

Completely agree.

And has been said, we would have, without taking any additional steps, been able to utilize the vast majority of that TPE this season without crossing the lux tax threshold. With a small amount of additional creativity, we could have used the whole thing.

OR, let's say we trade Ersan at the trade deadline and receive a player back that fits into the Brogdon TPE. Now we just generated a new $7.1 mil TPE from trading Ersan that doesn't expire until February 2021.

It's just absurd to have removed this tool from our toolbox.

thanks for depressing us a bit more.

[th87]

Anyone who thinks it was Horst's decision to punt the TPE is crazy. There is no doubt he was told to stay under the lux tax no matter what

Getting the TPE doesn't put you in luxury tax.

Can someone ask Alex wtf happened?

Not like our journalists are on the job.

[MickeyDavis]

Thanks for the insight GAD.

[DanoMac]

There’s going to be a game where Middleton is complete dog sh*t, Brogdon is killing us and he’ll hit a game winner and this place will burn. Not gonna lie, I might enjoy it a little bit.

Weird take. I'm sure we all hated losing Brogdon, but to me, there's no better feeling than the GM's getting it right and being wrong. Which, certainly, as a Bucks fan, is what I hope takes place here.

Not the other way around, just to prove I was right.

[emunney]

There’s going to be a game where Middleton is complete dog sh*t, Brogdon is killing us and he’ll hit a game winner and this place will burn. Not gonna lie, I might enjoy it a little bit.

Weird take. I'm sure we all hated losing Brogdon, but to me, there's no better feeling than the GM's getting it right and being wrong. Which, certainly, as a Bucks fan, is what I hope takes place here.

Not the other way around, just to prove I was right.

ME, AS THE BURNING CROSSBEAM LANDS ON MY NECK: Ha, TOLD you this **** was on fire!

[th87]

There’s going to be a game where Middleton is complete dog sh*t, Brogdon is killing us and he’ll hit a game winner and this place will burn. Not gonna lie, I might enjoy it a little bit.

Weird take. I'm sure we all hated losing Brogdon, but to me, there's no better feeling than the GM's getting it right and being wrong. Which, certainly, as a Bucks fan, is what I hope takes place here.

Not the other way around, just to prove I was right.

Can enjoy both. Makes things easier

[skones]

No TPE but we got Thanos who's deal ends wen Yanniss is a free agen u guyysssss!

comical

[DanoMac]

There’s going to be a game where Middleton is complete dog sh*t, Brogdon is killing us and he’ll hit a game winner and this place will burn. Not gonna lie, I might enjoy it a little bit.

Weird take. I'm sure we all hated losing Brogdon, but to me, there's no better feeling than the GM's getting it right and being wrong. Which, certainly, as a Bucks fan, is what I hope takes place here.

Not the other way around, just to prove I was right.

Can enjoy both. Makes things easier

You can enjoy Brogdon hitting a game winner against your home team? I mean, to each their own man.

[Bucksfan28]

There’s going to be a game where Middleton is complete dog sh*t, Brogdon is killing us and he’ll hit a game winner and this place will burn. Not gonna lie, I might enjoy it a little bit.

Weird take. I'm sure we all hated losing Brogdon, but to me, there's no better feeling than the GM's getting it right and being wrong. Which, certainly, as a Bucks fan, is what I hope takes place here.

Not the other way around, just to prove I was right.

ME, AS THE BURNING CROSSBEAM LANDS ON MY NECK: Ha, TOLD you this **** was on fire!

Did you just watch Batman Begins...

EDIT: Wouldn't let me link the starting point but 0:27

Watch on YouTube

[DanoMac]

This whole "I will enjoy if Brogdon torches us and hits a game winner against us" is so eerily reminiscent of the pro-Favre crowd when he went to Minnesota and were hoping he'd beat us and cheering for him.

It only took, what, less than 2 years for all of those bozos to do a 180 and act like it never happened?

[paulpressey25]

It's just absurd to have removed this tool from our toolbox.

Are we sure that steps were taken proactively to not have a TPE?

This thing feels more to me like the Lopez/Hill deals were agreed to much earlier, then the Brogdon trade opportunity hit at the last minute on Sunday morning, and the team didn't want to go back to either Lopez and Hill and ask them to restructure, given a fast moving free agent marketplace.

[Bucksfan28]

This whole "I will enjoy if Brogdon torches us and hits a game winner against us" is so eerily reminiscent of the pro-Favre crowd when he went to Minnesota and were hoping he'd beat us and cheering for him.

It only took, what, less than 2 years for all of those bozos to do a 180 and act like it never happened?

Hopefully it's so eerily reminiscent that it also results in a championship for the home team shortly thereafter

[emunney]

Weird take. I'm sure we all hated losing Brogdon, but to me, there's no better feeling than the GM's getting it right and being wrong. Which, certainly, as a Bucks fan, is what I hope takes place here.

Not the other way around, just to prove I was right.

ME, AS THE BURNING CROSSBEAM LANDS ON MY NECK: Ha, TOLD you this **** was on fire!

Did you just watch Batman Begins...

EDIT: Wouldn't let me link the starting point but 0:27

Watch on YouTube

No, I just frequently ideate dying in a fire.

[DanoMac]

This whole "I will enjoy if Brogdon torches us and hits a game winner against us" is so eerily reminiscent of the pro-Favre crowd when he went to Minnesota and were hoping he'd beat us and cheering for him.

It only took, what, less than 2 years for all of those bozos to do a 180 and act like it never happened?

Hopefully it's so eerily reminiscent that it also results in a championship for the home team shortly thereafter

[worthlessBucks]

Alfred can't take that dude out with a golf club. They lost me right at the climax.

Dumb to not get that TPE for potential use later. You never know what that might open up..

[JimmyTheKid]

This whole "I will enjoy if Brogdon torches us and hits a game winner against us" is so eerily reminiscent of the pro-Favre crowd when he went to Minnesota and were hoping he'd beat us and cheering for him.

It only took, what, less than 2 years for all of those bozos to do a 180 and act like it never happened?

Those people were the absolute worst. Until that time, I was under the Packers-fans-are-the-best-in-the-world, green and gold haze. I'll chalk it up to being young and stupid. Not only did we fully embarrass ourselves as a fan base for those few years, but I every time I went to Lambeau I saw firsthand how Packers fans were far, far, far, far from the best.

This is different though. Those of us who preferred to prioritize Brogdon over Middleton and hoped the front office could get creative exploring other avenues to better the team, at least most of us, recognize that Khris Middleton is a good player. Just nowhere near as good as his paycheck would suggest. That said, its not our money. It should be pretty easy to go from "don't give Midds the max or near max!" to "Go Khris!" when we're on a 60 win pace again next season.

[Black_Dragon]

Not sure what's more depressing:

1. Our FO totally botching this.
2. The fans/us will never know the truth

Velazquez/Nehm/any other media member who reads this board- please at least address this at some point.