Head Coaching Candidates - Finalists Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin - Another New Poll Added

[DanoMac]

Nurse was a known guy years before he even caught on with Casey because of what he did with Rio Grande Valley. The Raptors fired Casey specifically because everyone knew Nurse was about to get a HC job and they couldn't let him walk out the door. Honest question, is that the same thing with Young? Because I don't recall ever hearing about him. I suppose if he gets the Phoenix job we have the answer.

Nurse was hired as Casey's assistant in 2013, I don't ever remember him being a HC candidate from 2013-2017 or someone super sought after, maybe I just wasn't following close enough though.

His 6 years coaching in the G-League was impressive, but ultimately he was Casey's assistant for 5 years before finally getting the job, at 48 years old. Wasn't like he was some prodigy every team was waiting to get their hands on.

I'm saying he was and I'm surprised you don't remember it. When he was hired in Toronto it was a big deal, and immediately he was credited for Toronto's success. They went from a 34 win team to a 48 win team. Their offensive rating took off. Nurse was a legit prodigy.

Huh, I guess I wasn't following close enough then. Even old coaching prospect articles don't have him listed. Just interesting with a label like that how long he lasted as an assistant without getting a gig.

[WeekapaugGroove]

PHX has no first round picks they can trade per the Stepien rule. They gave up four of them to the Nets in staggered years.

Plus Phoenix can just stretch Paul if they want off him and it would only cost the $5mil in dead money for the next 3 years. He only has $15 mil guaranteed this season and none guaranteed next year.

I actually think that might happen and CP will sign someplace for the MLE.

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Suns need that salary slot. Same issue as the Bucks with Middleton.

Kind of, although they have Aytons slot (I highly suspect he's dealt for multiple role players this summer) and Shamet at $10 mil. Ishbia looks very willing to spend but they are going to start having second apron CBA issues soon and will have to shed some salary at some point. If they have a PG coming back in an Ayton deal it wouldn't shock me if Paul is stretched.

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[Plossum]

If Monty can get Giannis to stop shooting threes and fadeaway long twos then I’m all for it.

[blazza18]

I wouldn't hate Monty (because you have to assume whoever we hire, Giannis is 100% on board with and/or clamoring for), but I'd rather have Charles Lee

Giannis has had his own way for awhile so I pretty much don't care if he's on board with the hiring from the jump. Let winning handle that.

[ReasonablySober]

Nurse was hired as Casey's assistant in 2013, I don't ever remember him being a HC candidate from 2013-2017 or someone super sought after, maybe I just wasn't following close enough though.

His 6 years coaching in the G-League was impressive, but ultimately he was Casey's assistant for 5 years before finally getting the job, at 48 years old. Wasn't like he was some prodigy every team was waiting to get their hands on.

I'm saying he was and I'm surprised you don't remember it. When he was hired in Toronto it was a big deal, and immediately he was credited for Toronto's success. They went from a 34 win team to a 48 win team. Their offensive rating took off. Nurse was a legit prodigy.

Huh, I guess I wasn't following close enough then. Even old coaching prospect articles don't have him listed. Just interesting with a label like that how long he lasted as an assistant without getting a gig.

Good article from The Times about Nurse being credited for turning Casey's Raptors around.

[Finn]

Are you saying Nurse agreed to a deal and backed or just showed potential interest in your hypothetical? Because there is a big difference

Either one.

If Nurse expressed interest in a phone call w/ Horst (because he would have to talk with him ahead of the firing if he had "a plan"), Horst fires Bud, places call #2 to Nurse only to learn that he's decided he's not interested, how is that on Horst?

If Nurse said I'm all in but then backed out after the firing, how is that on Horst? He can't sign him to a contract while Bud is still the Coach.

And I'm glad you called it my hypothetical. All of this is hypothetical speculation. It seems to me that people really need to stop getting the vapors over stuff when they don't have all the information laid out in front of them.

It matters because in 1 situation Horst got f'd over by Nurse in which case that isn't on Horst, but that also seems like a real Longshot.

I'm irritated because at this point it seems very likely we are going to downgrade at coach and I blame Horst for that because he is the GM

My point is get made WHEN it happens.

[MVP2110]

Either one.

If Nurse expressed interest in a phone call w/ Horst (because he would have to talk with him ahead of the firing if he had "a plan"), Horst fires Bud, places call #2 to Nurse only to learn that he's decided he's not interested, how is that on Horst?

If Nurse said I'm all in but then backed out after the firing, how is that on Horst? He can't sign him to a contract while Bud is still the Coach.

And I'm glad you called it my hypothetical. All of this is hypothetical speculation. It seems to me that people really need to stop getting the vapors over stuff when they don't have all the information laid out in front of them.

It matters because in 1 situation Horst got f'd over by Nurse in which case that isn't on Horst, but that also seems like a real Longshot.

I'm irritated because at this point it seems very likely we are going to downgrade at coach and I blame Horst for that because he is the GM

My point is get made WHEN it happens.

I made clear what I wanted to happen when they fired Bud(which I didn't want to happen). I wanted them to target a specific coach rather than interview a bunch of candidates. If you are going to fire a top 5ish coach like Bud then you should know you can get someone as good or better and not just assume you can. So the fact that we are doing all these interviews does not inspire confidence to me. That said I will reserve final judgement to see if they hire Nurse or Lue who are basically the only two I could accept as equal or better than Bud.

[Daver]

If Monty can get Giannis to stop shooting threes and fadeaway long twos then I’m all for it.

Most of this board im sure will bash me cause im about to bash giannis alittle.Some of the downfall of this team failures in the POs falls on giannis.
Considering he always talks about improving his game the parts of his game that absolutely needs improving(fts mid rangr inside game) none of it has gotten any better.Think the bucks O would be thst much more dangerous if giannis spent time in the off season doing what he needs to do to get better
Hope a new coach can help him do that

[Antinomy]

If Monty Williams is the coach, I’m done for the foreseeable future.

Just keep Bud if you’re going the enabler/motivational speaker route.

[ReasonablySober]

The Nurse thing so far reminds me of the NFL draft when a prized prospect is falling and everyone is asking why. And the simple answer is that teams don't like him the way the public does. Except in this case it could be that maybe Nurse just doesn't like the Bucks. Who the hell knows.

[dbrodz7]

If Monty Williams is the coach, I’m done for the foreseeable future.

Just keep Bud if you’re going the enabler/motivational speaker route.

You think Bud saying play random in a mono-tone voice is motivational before a playoff game?

[Daver]

If Monty Williams is the coach, I’m done for the foreseeable future.

Just keep Bud if you’re going the enabler/motivational speaker route.

Since when has bud even been considered a motivational speaker type of coach. ...enabler with that O he ran letting giannis jack 3s letting giannis barrel into a wall again yes but motivation not even close

[Antinomy]

This is actually an interesting point. If Monty ends up being the guy, I think we'll immediately see some Chris Paul to Milwaukee traction take hold. Might not be the worst move...

*ducks*

Problem is the Suns have no more assets. A Middleton S&T for Paul would be interesting. But we need a lot more coming back

I’d rather the Suns buy CP3 out & he comes here on the minimum.

[thonnisbeastley]

Chris Quinn or Nick Nurse. Monty might be alright but I wouldn't be very excited about it.

Basically any coach that is willing to make at least 1-3 adjustments during a game will be better than Bud come playoff time. Bud is one of the most overrated coaches of all-time, completely carried by his players. The worst game management in the entire NBA when it comes to adjustments/matchups/rotations. Absolutely thrilled that he is gone and there's at least some semblance of hope for next season.

This is a classic take where fans think they actually know jack **** about the NBA when they don’t.

5 postseasons worth of evidence. The only time Bud didn't underperform in a postseason is when PJ Tucker was yelling at him to be quiet.

Your comment is reflection of your own expertise.

[BroncoBuck]

If Monty Williams is the coach, I’m done for the foreseeable future.

Just keep Bud if you’re going the enabler/motivational speaker route.

You think Bud saying play random in a mono-tone voice is motivational before a playoff game?

I’m convinced that people who criticize the “play random” quote have never played organized basketball. It doesn’t mean don’t run an offense, it means mix up your actions and sets so they can’t sit in the same defense.

[Frank Nova]

I’ll just say that anyone listed, including Mark Jackson, will be a better hire than Doc Rivers. Literately anyone.. and when Doc is inevitably fired for being the trash bag coach he is, Monty is going to Philly. Just my gut feeling but I’m calling my shot now..

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

charles lee who knows the guys and the system that made us successful is far and away the best choice. he can maintain the lockerroom and the culture and maybe infuse some ideas. most importantly if he has any questions bud will pick up the phone

any other guy will assume our team is normal and waste a year figuring out theres only way way for us to play well

[drone3]

Can we just hire PJ Tucker as player/coach

[LittleRooster]

Can we just hire PJ Tucker as player/coach

We’d probably tell him to seek other offers first


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[GHOSTofSIKMA]

If Monty Williams is the coach, I’m done for the foreseeable future.

Just keep Bud if you’re going the enabler/motivational speaker route.

You think Bud saying play random in a mono-tone voice is motivational before a playoff game?

I’m convinced that people who criticize the “play random” quote have never played organized basketball. It doesn’t mean don’t run an offense, it means mix up your actions and sets so they can’t sit in the same defense.

yes!! in college we had a similar system and we led the country in scoring. theres nothing wrong with it especially if youre sensible and have longstanding continuity around it. it goes to hell if guys play for themselves tho. of course all systems do but "play random" especially so