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I'm at the point where I'm close to giving up on the idea that Griffin is gonna have this group playing consistently at a championship defensive level without a significant personnel addition/change. It is what it is. Just find a way to get one of the following guys and I'd feel a lot better about not having to play perfect offense to win a championship.

DFS
Thybulle
Donte
Caruso
Bruce Brown
Lu Dort

TroyD92 · Post #1093 » by **TroyD92** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:37 am

Any creative Mikal Bridges trades out there

Shaffty · Post #1094 » by **Shaffty** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:37 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I'm at the point where I'm close to giving up on the idea that Griffin is gonna have this group playing consistently at a championship defensive level without a significant personnel addition/change. It is what it is. Just find a way to get one of the following guys and I'd feel a lot better about not having to play perfect offense to win a championship.

DFS
Thybulle
Donte
Caruso
Bruce Brown
Lu Dort

with a guard rotation of Dame/Beasley/Cam Payne i think a championship level defense is never happening no matter the coach lol

Ron Swanson · Post #1095 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:49 pm

Shaffty wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I'm at the point where I'm close to giving up on the idea that Griffin is gonna have this group playing consistently at a championship defensive level without a significant personnel addition/change. It is what it is. Just find a way to get one of the following guys and I'd feel a lot better about not having to play perfect offense to win a championship.

DFS
Thybulle
Donte
Caruso
Bruce Brown
Lu Dort

with a guard rotation of Dame/Beasley/Cam Payne i think a championship level defense is never happening no matter the coach lol

Nah, this idea is still legit crazy. Dame/Beasley/Cam vs. Jrue/Grayson/George Hill is not the difference in historically great defense and "struggling to not be one of the 8-9 worst defenses in the league". There was zero resistance at the rim last night and that's not just because guys are getting beat on the perimeter.

Post #1096 » by **Prez** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:07 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I'm at the point where I'm close to giving up on the idea that Griffin is gonna have this group playing consistently at a championship defensive level without a significant personnel addition/change. It is what it is. Just find a way to get one of the following guys and I'd feel a lot better about not having to play perfect offense to win a championship.

DFS
Thybulle
Donte
Caruso
Bruce Brown
Lu Dort

with a guard rotation of Dame/Beasley/Cam Payne i think a championship level defense is never happening no matter the coach lol

Nah, this idea is still legit crazy. Dame/Beasley/Cam vs. Jrue/Grayson/George Hill is not the difference in historically great defense and "struggling to not be one of the 8-9 worst defenses in the league". There was zero resistance at the rim last night and that's not just because guys are getting beat on the perimeter.

Yeah, with the same front court we’ve gone from top 2-3 in paint defense within 6 ft every season of the Bud era (excluding the year Brook missed most of the season) to league average this year. We’ve also gone from #1 in rebounding last season, and top 3 every year of the Bud era except the Brook back surgery season, to #18 in this year lol. The back court ain't fully explaining away those drop-offs.

Thankfully, the trade off is worth it and we’ve at least improved from 30th in opponent turnovers to…29th this year lol.

Post #1097 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:14 pm

The stuff I saw last night wouldn't be fixed with a defensive stopper on the wing. There were fundamental issues that would seem impossible if you had either Brook or Giannis on the court, much less both.

JayMKE · Post #1098 » by **JayMKE** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:32 pm

Griffin runs a dumb scheme and we're much weaker defensively at he guard, both are true. I kinda wonder what this team would have looked like had we not made the Lilllard trade, at least we don't have to worry about Giannis resigning now ig.

Shaffty · Post #1099 » by **Shaffty** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:34 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I'm at the point where I'm close to giving up on the idea that Griffin is gonna have this group playing consistently at a championship defensive level without a significant personnel addition/change. It is what it is. Just find a way to get one of the following guys and I'd feel a lot better about not having to play perfect offense to win a championship.

DFS
Thybulle
Donte
Caruso
Bruce Brown
Lu Dort

with a guard rotation of Dame/Beasley/Cam Payne i think a championship level defense is never happening no matter the coach lol

Nah, this idea is still legit crazy. Dame/Beasley/Cam vs. Jrue/Grayson/George Hill is not the difference in historically great defense and "struggling to not be one of the 8-9 worst defenses in the league". There was zero resistance at the rim last night and that's not just because guys are getting beat on the perimeter.

its not zero resistance at the rim, its zero resistance at the 3pt line allowing the guard to just walk into open shots/floaters

emunney · Post #1100 » by **emunney** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:40 pm

TroyD92 wrote:Any creative Mikal Bridges trades out there

No, but I feel like somebody needs to point out to Vaughn that his post game comments are what you say when you play your guy 25-30 minutes, not 12.