Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas

[Gant]

Still trying to figure out a way to get KD to Milwaukee…

Dame and Pat for KD and Grayson is interesting. Saves Phoenix 8m, they can shut down Dame and apply for an injury exemption and they don’t have to pay Grayson for the next 3yrs.

Grayson is already familiar with Milwaukee, Giannis has mentioned his whole career his admiration for Durant and we get the best imaginable sidekick for Giannis without coughing up the 2031 1st.

Who says no?

I've read so many fantasy Giannis trades where the Bucks could just get a lot more elsewhere. This is like that for the Suns.

[Bucknado]

Horst will have to pull some Dame to Milwaukee with “no assets” magic out of his ass to get KD.

[yb90]

Still trying to figure out a way to get KD to Milwaukee…

Dame and Pat for KD and Grayson is interesting. Saves Phoenix 8m, they can shut down Dame and apply for an injury exemption and they don’t have to pay Grayson for the next 3yrs.

Grayson is already familiar with Milwaukee, Giannis has mentioned his whole career his admiration for Durant and we get the best imaginable sidekick for Giannis without coughing up the 2031 1st.

Who says no?

The only way I see Durant coming to Milwaukee for the assets the Bucks have are if they can trade for Beal in a separate deal after they trade Lillard and a 1st for Durant. If Portis opts in and Beal agrees to the trade maybe the Bucks could get a deal done for the peanuts they have because they don't mind taking bake Beal. Would Portis opt in? Would Beal agree to be traded to Milwaukee for a chance to win a ship?

The bigger question is if Durant is really worth trading the '31 pick in a deal? What could the Bucks do after adding $8.8m in salary? Would the Bucks have the space to keep KPJ, GTJ, Rollins, and Sims. GTJ would be behind Beal and AJ Green is still signed so he is expendable. The real key is keeping KPJ, Rollins, Sims, and finding a hidden gem that's a big who can rebound.

[pifhluk23]

KD is the exact opposite of what we should be trying to do. Pacers model is what we should be doing, Giannis + 4-6 solid guys who play both ends.

[JonHeist]

interesting proposal over on the T&T board

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2462668

I think Giannis stays and the only way for the Bucks to add any contributors is to send out Dame's salary slot. Now, the problem is that very few teams would want to pay 120 million for the next two years of Dame. The Wizards will be tanking hard next year to avoid having their pick convey to the Knicks (it is top 8 protected, otherwise it turns into a 2026 2nd and a 2027 2nd). They can afford to have Dame on the books (and not playing) in order to reach the salary floor, while sending out contributors back to the Bucks.

The deal is:

Wiz trade Jordan Poole+Marcus Smart (expiring) for Dame+2026 swap rights (the Wiz currently own the least favorable of OKC, Houston, and LAC's 2026 1st (will most likely be OKC's pick), so the swap would be (after NO swaps with the Bucks if they finish with a better record) this pick with the worst of NO/MIL 2026 1st)+2031 swap rights with the Bucks.

Why for the Wiz?
1). Simply put, they add more potential lotto balls in the future with a couple of pick swaps while helping with he tank and opening a roster spot.

Why for the Bucks?
1). They shave 26 million between Poole and Dame's last year's money, while adding a player who can play now (and was actually good last year for the Wizards) as well as a versatile expiring defender in Smart. I don't see any other team willing to take on Dame's last two years while giving up any contributing players.

[SupremeHustle]

interesting proposal over on the T&T board

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2462668

I think Giannis stays and the only way for the Bucks to add any contributors is to send out Dame's salary slot. Now, the problem is that very few teams would want to pay 120 million for the next two years of Dame. The Wizards will be tanking hard next year to avoid having their pick convey to the Knicks (it is top 8 protected, otherwise it turns into a 2026 2nd and a 2027 2nd). They can afford to have Dame on the books (and not playing) in order to reach the salary floor, while sending out contributors back to the Bucks.

The deal is:

Wiz trade Jordan Poole+Marcus Smart (expiring) for Dame+2026 swap rights (the Wiz currently own the least favorable of OKC, Houston, and LAC's 2026 1st (will most likely be OKC's pick), so the swap would be (after NO swaps with the Bucks if they finish with a better record) this pick with the worst of NO/MIL 2026 1st)+2031 swap rights with the Bucks.

Why for the Wiz?
1). Simply put, they add more potential lotto balls in the future with a couple of pick swaps while helping with he tank and opening a roster spot.

Why for the Bucks?
1). They shave 26 million between Poole and Dame's last year's money, while adding a player who can play now (and was actually good last year for the Wizards) as well as a versatile expiring defender in Smart. I don't see any other team willing to take on Dame's last two years while giving up any contributing players.

Damn. That's awful. I get it, though. I'm just sad that's where we are at.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

interesting proposal over on the T&T board

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2462668

I think Giannis stays and the only way for the Bucks to add any contributors is to send out Dame's salary slot. Now, the problem is that very few teams would want to pay 120 million for the next two years of Dame. The Wizards will be tanking hard next year to avoid having their pick convey to the Knicks (it is top 8 protected, otherwise it turns into a 2026 2nd and a 2027 2nd). They can afford to have Dame on the books (and not playing) in order to reach the salary floor, while sending out contributors back to the Bucks.

The deal is:

Wiz trade Jordan Poole+Marcus Smart (expiring) for Dame+2026 swap rights (the Wiz currently own the least favorable of OKC, Houston, and LAC's 2026 1st (will most likely be OKC's pick), so the swap would be (after NO swaps with the Bucks if they finish with a better record) this pick with the worst of NO/MIL 2026 1st)+2031 swap rights with the Bucks.

Why for the Wiz?
1). Simply put, they add more potential lotto balls in the future with a couple of pick swaps while helping with he tank and opening a roster spot.

Why for the Bucks?
1). They shave 26 million between Poole and Dame's last year's money, while adding a player who can play now (and was actually good last year for the Wizards) as well as a versatile expiring defender in Smart. I don't see any other team willing to take on Dame's last two years while giving up any contributing players.

you gotta do it if youre on the keep giannis here bandwagon

screw the picks. get the playable tradable players and salary slots and salary relief. hanging onto picks or dead money is serving the same two masters kohl did.

[Baddy Chuck]

I get that were pushed into a corner but "replacing" Dame and all his faults with Poole and Middleton with all his injury problems with Smart is pretty funny.

[Bucknado]

AJ Johnson coming on that deal?

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I get that were pushed into a corner but "replacing" Dame and all his faults with Poole and Middleton with all his injury problems with Smart is pretty funny.

i think the theory is we'd take "cash" for either of them at this point but thats not an option

[machu46]

interesting proposal over on the T&T board

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2462668

I think Giannis stays and the only way for the Bucks to add any contributors is to send out Dame's salary slot. Now, the problem is that very few teams would want to pay 120 million for the next two years of Dame. The Wizards will be tanking hard next year to avoid having their pick convey to the Knicks (it is top 8 protected, otherwise it turns into a 2026 2nd and a 2027 2nd). They can afford to have Dame on the books (and not playing) in order to reach the salary floor, while sending out contributors back to the Bucks.

The deal is:

Wiz trade Jordan Poole+Marcus Smart (expiring) for Dame+2026 swap rights (the Wiz currently own the least favorable of OKC, Houston, and LAC's 2026 1st (will most likely be OKC's pick), so the swap would be (after NO swaps with the Bucks if they finish with a better record) this pick with the worst of NO/MIL 2026 1st)+2031 swap rights with the Bucks.

Why for the Wiz?
1). Simply put, they add more potential lotto balls in the future with a couple of pick swaps while helping with he tank and opening a roster spot.

Why for the Bucks?
1). They shave 26 million between Poole and Dame's last year's money, while adding a player who can play now (and was actually good last year for the Wizards) as well as a versatile expiring defender in Smart. I don't see any other team willing to take on Dame's last two years while giving up any contributing players.

It is indeed interesting. Sad for sure but interesting nonetheless. I kinda like Poole but he'd likely drive a lot of fans nuts here much like Kuzma did. Could really use the shot creation he's capable of though and he's a guy that likes to play to the crowd like Portis does and that's always kinda fun (at least when it's going well).

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[JonHeist]

Spoiler:

interesting proposal over on the T&T board

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2462668

I think Giannis stays and the only way for the Bucks to add any contributors is to send out Dame's salary slot. Now, the problem is that very few teams would want to pay 120 million for the next two years of Dame. The Wizards will be tanking hard next year to avoid having their pick convey to the Knicks (it is top 8 protected, otherwise it turns into a 2026 2nd and a 2027 2nd). They can afford to have Dame on the books (and not playing) in order to reach the salary floor, while sending out contributors back to the Bucks.

The deal is:

Wiz trade Jordan Poole+Marcus Smart (expiring) for Dame+2026 swap rights (the Wiz currently own the least favorable of OKC, Houston, and LAC's 2026 1st (will most likely be OKC's pick), so the swap would be (after NO swaps with the Bucks if they finish with a better record) this pick with the worst of NO/MIL 2026 1st)+2031 swap rights with the Bucks.

Why for the Wiz?
1). Simply put, they add more potential lotto balls in the future with a couple of pick swaps while helping with he tank and opening a roster spot.

Why for the Bucks?
1). They shave 26 million between Poole and Dame's last year's money, while adding a player who can play now (and was actually good last year for the Wizards) as well as a versatile expiring defender in Smart. I don't see any other team willing to take on Dame's last two years while giving up any contributing players.

It is indeed interesting. Sad for sure but interesting nonetheless. I kinda like Poole but he'd likely drive a lot of fans nuts here much like Kuzma did. Could really use the shot creation he's capable of though and he's a guy that likes to play to the crowd like Portis does and that's always kinda fun (at least when it's going well).

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yeah, not saying I'd do it (especially without knowing how Dame's recovery is progressing)

but something based around Dame for Poole is worth discussing

[PG Graveyard]

Jordon Poole is local kid comes home too. There is a world where he can help us. I’m in.

[emunney]

interesting proposal over on the T&T board

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2462668

I think Giannis stays and the only way for the Bucks to add any contributors is to send out Dame's salary slot. Now, the problem is that very few teams would want to pay 120 million for the next two years of Dame. The Wizards will be tanking hard next year to avoid having their pick convey to the Knicks (it is top 8 protected, otherwise it turns into a 2026 2nd and a 2027 2nd). They can afford to have Dame on the books (and not playing) in order to reach the salary floor, while sending out contributors back to the Bucks.

The deal is:

Wiz trade Jordan Poole+Marcus Smart (expiring) for Dame+2026 swap rights (the Wiz currently own the least favorable of OKC, Houston, and LAC's 2026 1st (will most likely be OKC's pick), so the swap would be (after NO swaps with the Bucks if they finish with a better record) this pick with the worst of NO/MIL 2026 1st)+2031 swap rights with the Bucks.

Why for the Wiz?
1). Simply put, they add more potential lotto balls in the future with a couple of pick swaps while helping with he tank and opening a roster spot.

Why for the Bucks?
1). They shave 26 million between Poole and Dame's last year's money, while adding a player who can play now (and was actually good last year for the Wizards) as well as a versatile expiring defender in Smart. I don't see any other team willing to take on Dame's last two years while giving up any contributing players.

you gotta do it if youre on the keep giannis here bandwagon

screw the picks. get the playable tradable players and salary slots and salary relief. hanging onto picks or dead money is serving the same two masters kohl did.

[Plossum]

Why are trying to import all the dross from a horrific Wizards team and thinking it’ll work out well for us? Poole might be even less serious a player than Kooz.

[Prez]

Really digging the Poole idea. While the rest of the league is trying like hell to stack all the BBIQ and unselfishness they can, we have a real opportunity to zag here and build the dumbest team humanly possible. Doc, Kuzma, Poole, **** find a way to get Russ here as well. The league won’t know what hit em.

[RiotPunch]

Really digging the Poole idea. While the rest of the league is trying like hell to stack all the BBIQ and unselfishness they can, we have a real opportunity to zag here and build the dumbest team humanly possible. Doc, Kuzma, Poole, **** find a way to get Russ here as well. The league won’t know what hit em.

5D Checkers, they'll never see it coming!

[blazza18]

Can't call Giannis dumb when he has the highest IQ on the team

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

poole and kpj are the exact kind of reclamation/upside/last chance types we should be targeting you guys.

its like the last shot we have is with a couple dudes like this. there is no other option other than vet mins and undrafted free agents

[ShootingtheJ]

I didn't think much of the new mechanism of being able to absorb an already under contract player into the MLE, but looking at how many of those size contracts that the apron teams will have, and I'm wondering if we're going to see it used more often than I originally thought:

Donte
Mike Conley
Royce O'Neal
Isaac Okoro
Sam Hauser
Moses Moody
Kelly Olynyk
Jonas Valanciunas
Caleb Martin
Kyle Anderson
Wendell Carter Jr.

Yeah, I can see any of these guys essentially being available for free or for very minimal compensation (2nd's). I think some of these guys might even be no-brainers if you're able to use whatever's left ($3-4 million) of the MLE towards another player, but I haven't seen that confirmed.

It would be best if we acquired a player in this range, to do it as part of a Patty C 3 way deal, rather than using the MLE. Use the MLE to keep our own. Deal Patty C with a 2nd to a rebuilding team, and use 125% of the salary slot to acquire someone on the list.