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Post#1101 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:13 am

I think it would be cooler than normal to win the championship this year because no one is ever going to forget this crazy **** up year. It will live in history more than a random one off chip in a normal year.

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Post#1102 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:56 am

People will say "This is a fluke. Giannis only had to go through Michael Beasley & Jarryd Bayless for the Bucks to get a ring." I'd personally see that as a disadvantage for Milwaukee, given the intel those three must have on defending the Greek Freak. No one has tape on a Jason Terry, Grevis Vasquez & Charlie Villanueva Big Three & those guys are fully rested. I won't enjoy the Zoom parade any less.
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Post#1104 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:08 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I think it would be cooler than normal to win the championship this year because no one is ever going to forget this crazy **** up year. It will live in history more than a random :noway: one off chip in a normal year.

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Post#1105 » by midranger » Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:08 pm

Stating the obvious. A basketball injury sustained during a basketball game is viewed differently re: asterisk. It’s part of the game. Part of training of the athlete. Part of minute management of the coaching. Etc...

Much different than a waitress coughing on her hand and serving a table of 5 players a meal and then they all have to sit for the entire series.
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Post#1106 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:17 pm

Any talk of an asterisk will be short term anyway. I said this before, the NFL had a 9 game season in 1982, in 1987 they used replacement players for 3 games in the middle of the season. They used replacement refs that cost the Packers a home playoff game. The NBA had a 50 game season in George Karl's first year with the Bucks. Baseball had a split season in 1981. And no I'm not equating any of those to a pandemic. But those seasons had events that greatly altered the landscape of the season and very well may have resulted in a different champion had the seasons played out normally. You play the cards you are dealt.
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Post#1107 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:29 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Any talk of an asterisk will be short term anyway. I said this before, the NFL had a 9 game season in 1982, in 1987 they used replacement players for 3 games in the middle of the season. They used replacement refs that cost the Packers a home playoff game. The NBA had a 50 game season in George Karl's first year with the Bucks. Baseball had a split season in 1981. And no I'm not equating any of those to a pandemic. But those seasons had events that greatly altered the landscape of the season and very well may have resulted in a different champion had the seasons played out normally. You play the cards you are dealt.


This isn't about a shortened season. It's about the possibility that multiple key players could miss significant time because the NBA is choosing to go ahead with a post-season in the middle of a pandemic.
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Post#1108 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:50 pm

And key players have missed regular season and playoff games every year. Last year being a prime example. We've talked ad nauseum here about it. My point is any talk of an "asterisk champion" will be in the short term only. Of course this season is an anomaly. And if some on this board want to dismiss a Bucks championship, if it should happen, that's fine. I won't. (shrug)
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Post#1109 » by BucksFanSD » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:19 pm

I just wish the NBA, its players, and employees would consider doing a bubble environment. Quarantine, anyone can leave, no re-entry.
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Post#1110 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:36 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I think it would be cooler than normal to win the championship this year because no one is ever going to forget this crazy **** up year. It will live in history more than a random one off chip in a normal year.

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This is where I'm at. This is the Bucks fan equivalent of "7/10, pointy elbows, would not bang"
We haven't won crap since I've been born and they have the chance to be NBA champions in the craziest post-season ever? Sign me up.
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Post#1111 » by midranger » Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:59 pm

Nah. People will remember coronavirus and 2020. People don’t remember strike shortened seasons because they’re not linked to a more global event that affects them personally. People will remember the pandemic that cost them their job, health, retirement, freedom of movement, home schooling, whatever impact.

They’ll remember if the bucks won because 7 lakers players were infected.

This is not a forgettable moment in history. Memories over strikes and busted ankles fade quickly. Global pandemic that destroy economies and leave hundreds of thousands dead? Not so much.
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Post#1112 » by midranger » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:02 pm

Not saying I wouldn’t celebrate if we won. It wouldn’t mean all too much though if the win was over the LA J.R. Smiths.
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Post#1113 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:15 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:And key players have missed regular season and playoff games every year. Last year being a prime example. We've talked ad nauseum here about it. My point is any talk of an "asterisk champion" will be in the short term only. Of course this season is an anomaly. And if some on this board want to dismiss a Bucks championship, if it should happen, that's fine. I won't. (shrug)
Yeah some folks are just asterisk types and will have a 'yeah but' for damn near any championship but I think the majority really don't think like that. I think the majority will look back at this championship with more of a 'remember that crazy ass year they played in Orlando durring covid, that was super weird'

One thing the bucks have going for them as a defense against the asterisk army is regardless of what happens to other teams the fact remains the bucks had the best record going into the tournament so its not like them winning would be some fluke. Now say the suns win a championship because like 50 players get knocked out then the conversation is a little different.

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Post#1114 » by midranger » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:05 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:And key players have missed regular season and playoff games every year. Last year being a prime example. We've talked ad nauseum here about it. My point is any talk of an "asterisk champion" will be in the short term only. Of course this season is an anomaly. And if some on this board want to dismiss a Bucks championship, if it should happen, that's fine. I won't. (shrug)
Yeah some folks are just asterisk types and will have a 'yeah but' for damn near any championship but I think the majority really don't think like that. I think the majority will look back at this championship with more of a 'remember that crazy ass year they played in Orlando durring covid, that was super weird'

One thing the bucks have going for them as a defense against the asterisk army is regardless of what happens to other teams the fact remains the bucks had the best record going into the tournament so its not like them winning would be some fluke. Now say the suns win a championship because like 50 players get knocked out then the conversation is a little different.

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Post#1115 » by skbucks1985 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:21 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:And key players have missed regular season and playoff games every year. Last year being a prime example. We've talked ad nauseum here about it. My point is any talk of an "asterisk champion" will be in the short term only. Of course this season is an anomaly. And if some on this board want to dismiss a Bucks championship, if it should happen, that's fine. I won't. (shrug)
Yeah some folks are just asterisk types and will have a 'yeah but' for damn near any championship but I think the majority really don't think like that. I think the majority will look back at this championship with more of a 'remember that crazy ass year they played in Orlando durring covid, that was super weird'

One thing the bucks have going for them as a defense against the asterisk army is regardless of what happens to other teams the fact remains the bucks had the best record going into the tournament so its not like them winning would be some fluke. Now say the suns win a championship because like 50 players get knocked out then the conversation is a little different.

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How pervasive the asterisk talking point becomes will definitely be based on the results. If no series is materially affected by a positive test and the champion ends up being the Bucks or one of the LA teams, the narrative will be that it was a weird season but ultimately the Bucks/Lakers/Clippers would've won the title even in a normal scenario. If it becomes a battle of attrition and Indiana or Houston winds up winning the title, then yeah its going to be a major part of how this season is remembered.
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Post#1116 » by midranger » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:27 pm

Florida with 5.5k new cases today. Continue on the exponential trend. They are going to hit an ICU crisis.

I’m not shocked by much, but I’d be mildly surprised if this happens in Florida.
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Post#1117 » by midranger » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:42 pm

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Orlando Hospitals appear to be 90-100% full currently.

In two weeks when the players arrive, they will be completely overrun.
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Post#1118 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:51 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:And key players have missed regular season and playoff games every year. Last year being a prime example. We've talked ad nauseum here about it. My point is any talk of an "asterisk champion" will be in the short term only. Of course this season is an anomaly. And if some on this board want to dismiss a Bucks championship, if it should happen, that's fine. I won't. (shrug)
Yeah some folks are just asterisk types and will have a 'yeah but' for damn near any championship but I think the majority really don't think like that. I think the majority will look back at this championship with more of a 'remember that crazy ass year they played in Orlando durring covid, that was super weird'

One thing the bucks have going for them as a defense against the asterisk army is regardless of what happens to other teams the fact remains the bucks had the best record going into the tournament so its not like them winning would be some fluke. Now say the suns win a championship because like 50 players get knocked out then the conversation is a little different.

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How pervasive the asterisk talking point becomes will definitely be based on the results. If no series is materially affected by a positive test and the champion ends up being the Bucks or one of the LA teams, the narrative will be that it was a weird season but ultimately the Bucks/Lakers/Clippers would've won the title even in a normal scenario. If it becomes a battle of attrition and Indiana or Houston winds up winning the title, then yeah its going to be a major part of how this season is remembered.


Completely agree with this. If the Lakers, Bucks, or Clippers win the title and no major stars get the virus then this will be looked at as a normal season looking back on it. But if one of LeBron, Giannis, Kawhi, PG, AD, or Middleton get the virus and their team loses then people will call for an asterisk. Or if one of those 3 teams suffers an outbreak within itself. I don't think people will call for an asterisk though otherwise, even if say players like Harden, Embiid, or Doncic get the virus because odds are those teams weren't going to make deep runs anyway
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