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Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

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Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?

Yes, I want them to hire Jason Kidd to run the organization
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No, I do not want them to hire Jason Kidd to run the organization
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1141 » by FlagsFlyForever » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:22 am

ampd wrote:One thing I have to hand to the new owners is, they sure seem to be able to convince people to come here.

First Jabari and now Jason Kidd are rumored to have basically forced their way to Milwaukee to the total surprise of all the analysts and ESPN guys who probably occasionally forget we have a team.

That is definitely new.

Forced their way to Milwaukee? Parker was the #2 pick in a two-man draft and Kidd has a long-standing relationship with Lasry.

Convince a big name free agent to come here and I'll be impressed.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1142 » by JayMKE » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:22 am

So is Drew still employed or what?
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1143 » by paulpressey25 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:23 am

Wooderson wrote:New thread with a poll about whether or not we want Kidd as HC?


Do we really think Kidd is being brought on board with the idea he'd only be the coach during his tenure here?

Kidd has never been comfortable being told "no" by anyone in his career in addition to being Lasry's friend. We would be hiring a coach, but getting a guy who would be as powerful as George Karl was in the early days under Herb. The GM or POBO would be in name only unless you hired a great one like Pat Riley or Jerry West.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1144 » by LUKE23 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:23 am

I guess my question at this point is, "what percentage of Nets fans are upset about Kidd leaving?"
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1145 » by emunney » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:23 am

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ampd wrote:One thing I have to hand to the new owners is, they sure seem to be able to convince people to come here.

First Jabari and now Jason Kidd are rumored to have basically forced their way to Milwaukee to the total surprise of all the analysts and ESPN guys who probably occasionally forget we have a team.

That is definitely new.

Forced their way to Milwaukee? Parker was the #2 pick in a two-man draft and Kidd has a long-standing relationship with Lasry.

Convince a big name free agent to come here and I'll be impressed.


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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1146 » by SkilesTheLimit » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:23 am

Larry Drew wasn't the right fit here in Milwaukee. A 40-45 win team may respond to his style but he's not the kind of guy you want at the helm of a rebuilding team.

I respect coaches who try and win every game because that's what they are paid to do. The fact is he was trying to win games even when we were chasing the #1 lotto seed. There's no other reason to start Zaza, Adrien, Sessions if you weren't trying to win. Management and he must have always been at odds.

It's in his DNA to play to win. And right now, wins hurt our future.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1147 » by Frank Nova » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:24 am

MickeyDavis wrote:I'm fine with him over Drew as coach. I guess I would have rather seen the progression as hire a POBO first, let him decide Hambone's fate and then the coach. We're doing it ass backward.


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Post#1148 » by SeaLORD_0318 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:24 am

JayMKE wrote:So is Drew still employed or what?


I guess we know why Drew was in a t-shirt at the presser...the movers packed out his suits.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1149 » by emunney » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:25 am

LUKE23 wrote:I guess my question at this point is, "what percentage of Nets fans are upset about Kidd leaving?"


I would guess almost zero, but I wonder if that would change under different circumstances. I think the negative attitudes toward him are clustered around his power play (and how he screwed them on the way out as a player) than about his job performance.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1150 » by cinematographer » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:27 am

JayMKE wrote:Nobody should be freaking out over him just coaching, he's at least a decent coach that is as good or better than Drew. You can give him that at least right?

I wonder what 2nd round pick they'll get?

The bottle of lotion you use jerking off is as good as or better than Drew, so it isn't quite giving him much.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1151 » by FlagsFlyForever » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:27 am

emunney wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:
ampd wrote:One thing I have to hand to the new owners is, they sure seem to be able to convince people to come here.

First Jabari and now Jason Kidd are rumored to have basically forced their way to Milwaukee to the total surprise of all the analysts and ESPN guys who probably occasionally forget we have a team.

That is definitely new.

Forced their way to Milwaukee? Parker was the #2 pick in a two-man draft and Kidd has a long-standing relationship with Lasry.

Convince a big name free agent to come here and I'll be impressed.


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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1152 » by trwi7 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:27 am

emunney wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:
ampd wrote:One thing I have to hand to the new owners is, they sure seem to be able to convince people to come here.

First Jabari and now Jason Kidd are rumored to have basically forced their way to Milwaukee to the total surprise of all the analysts and ESPN guys who probably occasionally forget we have a team.

That is definitely new.

Forced their way to Milwaukee? Parker was the #2 pick in a two-man draft and Kidd has a long-standing relationship with Lasry.

Convince a big name free agent to come here and I'll be impressed.


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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1153 » by cinematographer » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:28 am

SkilesTheLimit wrote:Larry Drew wasn't the right fit here in Milwaukee. A 40-45 win team may respond to his style but he's not the kind of guy you want at the helm of a rebuilding team.

I respect coaches who try and win every game because that's what they are paid to do. The fact is he was trying to win games even when we were chasing the #1 lotto seed. There's no other reason to start Zaza, Adrien, Sessions if you weren't trying to win. Management and he must have always been at odds.

It's in his DNA to play to win. And right now, wins hurt our future.

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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1154 » by Bfinkish » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:28 am

ampd wrote:One thing I have to hand to the new owners is, they sure seem to be able to convince people to come here.

First Jabari and now Jason Kidd are rumored to have basically forced their way to Milwaukee to the total surprise of all the analysts and ESPN guys who probably occasionally forget we have a team.

That is definitely new.



Great post. Very true. We now have people (big names) willing and wanting to come to Milwaukee... Guys, this is pretty awesome...
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1155 » by machu46 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:28 am

Based on the fact that so many Nets fans are saying it would be awful if they lost Kidd without getting a 1st round pick, I'd say a decent amount of them are upset.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1156 » by Wooderson » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:28 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Do we really think Kidd is being brought on board with the idea he'd only be the coach during his tenure here?

Kidd has never been comfortable being told "no" by anyone in his career in addition to being Lasry's friend. We would be hiring a coach, but getting a guy who would be as powerful as George Karl was in the early days under Herb. The GM or POBO would be in name only unless you hired a great one like Pat Riley or Jerry West.


Good point, and it's really the biggest downside to bringing him in. But I'd be more comfortable with him starting in the HC role and getting some more experience dealing with an NBA FO (provided he doesn't have the final say on personnel moves right away). I'd have to think we hire a POBO/GM and keep them on board if they're successful. Maybe not though.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1157 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:30 am

PP is right, Kidd will be "Just" a coach in name only. He'll be running things. And Hammond will get a big new shiny rubber stamp.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1158 » by Bfinkish » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:31 am

ElPeregrino wrote:
ampd wrote:One thing I have to hand to the new owners is, they sure seem to be able to convince people to come here.

First Jabari and now Jason Kidd are rumored to have basically forced their way to Milwaukee to the total surprise of all the analysts and ESPN guys who probably occasionally forget we have a team.

That is definitely new.

Forced their way to Milwaukee? Parker was the #2 pick in a two-man draft and Kidd has a long-standing relationship with Lasry.

Convince a big name free agent to come here and I'll be impressed.



Disagree

Parker wanted to be here. He could've just said I want to go to Cle or wanted to go to Philly.

Kidd having the relationship with Lasry is exactly why they are able to convince him to come here.

It's because of the new owners we have this fresh energy already.
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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1159 » by FlagsFlyForever » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:32 am

machu46 wrote:Based on the fact that so many Nets fans are saying it would be awful if they lost Kidd without getting a 1st round pick, I'd say a decent amount of them are upset.

I think they are upset because it appears we tampered with Kidd. Even if we didn't, the way it looks now is that Kidd threw a big fit and burned his bridges in Brooklyn because he knew he had a job lined up in Milwaukee with his old buddy Marc.

I'm not saying that's true, but that's the way they seem to be thinking it went down.




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Re: Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)? 

Post#1160 » by SkilesTheLimit » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:32 am

machu46 wrote:Based on the fact that so many Nets fans are saying it would be awful if they lost Kidd without getting a 1st round pick, I'd say a decent amount of them are upset.


Beat me to it. The only thing I will add is if Larry Drew were in Kidd's current shoes and Team X came calling, could any of us (with a straight face) believe he was worthy of a 1st round pick?

On another note, one thing that would excite me with Kidd as coach is what he could possibly do for Brandon Knight. I'd love for him to stress how a "real" PG should play the game. If after this year under Kidd we still see the same chucking BK, we know not to match his RFA contract.
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