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Post#1141 » by raferfenix » Yesterday 4:37 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Horst better have his best Kuzma plus Bobby and multiple swaps/firsts trade package ready to pull the trigger on at the trade deadline


This is what’s newsworthy to me.

Giannis’ team could be emphasizing to Shams (on background) how excited they are about this new era Bucks team, but instead…
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Post#1142 » by mke_design » Yesterday 4:51 am

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I'm guessing we're going to keep seeing/hearing this heavily to start the year. Really odd timing for this to all get leaked now and does nobody any favors. I love Giannis, but this is partially on him for letting it get this distracting. For someone who says they don't like the drama... :-?


I actually think Giannis is too honest for his own good. It would be very easy for him to just lie to the media and say "I'm never leaving Milwaukee!" while telling Horst, behind the scenes, to make the call. But he's honest. He won't slam the door because, in his mind, he's prepared for the possibility if things get bad this year, and he doesn't want to be accused of misleading everyone about his intentions.


I don’t think being a fence sitter is viewed any more keenly than a liar. Make a choice. If he doesn’t want to be a buck which, assuming this is all true, you tell him to stay in Greece and wait to be traded in 3 months.
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Post#1143 » by mke_design » Yesterday 4:53 am

Why does Myles sign here if Giannis is gone? Was he duped into a lie? He’s a really good player and could have been paid by the Pacers and waited out the storm for the Pacers to rise again. Seems like a really weird decision in hindsight.
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Post#1144 » by soxperry » Yesterday 4:55 am

I dont know if any one player that we could feasibly acquire makes us a real contender. But Id like to know who people think that could be.
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Post#1145 » by El Pooch Grande » Yesterday 4:57 am

Sad night. Feels like it's over to me. Really thought he was cut from the Dirk/Duncan/Kobe cloth....

Also, the true reason for the relentless Giannis rumors by ESPN and the media: They want this franchise relocated to Seattle ASAP.

Buckle up gentleman, because I'm not sure the Milwaukee Bucks as we know them will exist by the end of this decade, which also makes the trade compensation and rebuild efforts around Giannis moot. Why should we care about a package for a "rebuild" if it's actually truly going to be a rebirth gift for the resurrection of the Supersonics?
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Post#1146 » by Plossum » Yesterday 5:05 am

mke_design wrote:Why does Myles sign here if Giannis is gone? Was he duped into a lie? He’s a really good player and could have been paid by the Pacers and waited out the storm for the Pacers to rise again. Seems like a really weird decision in hindsight.

I thought it was because the Bucks undercut the Pacers to pay Turner more than the Pacers were willing to give him?

Generally it’s always about money.
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Post#1147 » by Ryan5UW » Yesterday 6:33 am

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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Giannis has been one of the most low-key super stars. He's never been in trouble, a good family man, and has been loyal. All this despite having zero connections to this current team, front office, etc. if he's exhausting, I don't know what super star isn't.


The situation is exhausting. Most superstars don't have the same thing going on for 7+ years of rumors. I understand you want to stick up for him but you don't need to turn what I said into some Giannis bashing and like people don't appreciate what he's done here.


Different dynamic/circumstances, but I’m starting to get to the point where I was when Favre was “will I/won’t I” on retirement every offseason for a bunch of years. I’m over all the drama and Giannis’s part in it.
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Post#1148 » by paulpressey25 » Yesterday 7:46 am

mke_design wrote:Why does Myles sign here if Giannis is gone? Was he duped into a lie? He’s a really good player and could have been paid by the Pacers and waited out the storm for the Pacers to rise again. Seems like a really weird decision in hindsight.


Pacers lowballed and disrespected him. He got sick of it year after year. And you saw Pacers fans blame him for the finals loss.

Regardless of where this Giannis thing goes it was a great move. Turner is a good player we added for free. $22mm of dead Dame cap space for a rebuilding team is a drop in the bucket.
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Post#1149 » by paulpressey25 » Yesterday 7:49 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Horst better have his best Kuzma plus Bobby and multiple swaps/firsts trade package ready to pull the trigger on at the trade deadline, because outside of this team miraculously starting 30-13 or something, can’t see any other way you’re gonna convince him we have any sort of realistic shot at winning a championship this season.


I wouldn’t waste those future draft picks at this point unless Giannis says he’s re-signing.
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Post#1150 » by Daver » Yesterday 8:55 am

soxperry wrote:Stephen A says, "Im moving everyone but Brunson for Giannis."

Hey guess what, Stephen, and league fans in general... if you dont have great draft picks, you are giving up your best player for Giannis. Plain and simple. We're going to be taking other players too. You dont like that? No trade then. Good luck.



As horst has mentioned in the past any giannis trade he wants to gut the other team ..good for him no fu... way if you trade giannis do you not take everything plus more from a team.3 starters and 2 or 3 frps.
Fu... miami said on BR tbey were interested but it wouldnt include bam.....fu.... yuck
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Post#1151 » by paulpressey25 » Yesterday 8:55 am

Simmons pod tonight. Asked the question—is Giannis unhappy OR is he frustrated. You can work through frustration but unhappiness will kill team momentum.
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Post#1152 » by Daver » Yesterday 9:04 am

mke_design wrote:Why does Myles sign here if Giannis is gone? Was he duped into a lie? He’s a really good player and could have been paid by the Pacers and waited out the storm for the Pacers to rise again. Seems like a really weird decision in hindsight.




Especially when it was said thst giannis recruited him to the bucks.Also heard giannis wanted more shooters around hjm check agsin.
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Post#1153 » by Daver » Yesterday 9:09 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Simmons pod tonight. Asked the question—is Giannis unhappy OR is he frustrated. You can work through frustration but unhappiness will kill team momentum.


Lets see horst goes gets holiday goes gets dsme midds misses 22 pos in 7 game loss to tbe Cs gisnnis misses mist of round 1 next year vs heat dame misses round 1 this year its not fir the lack of trying by horst.Think the bucks beat the Cs in 22 with midds n clearly were a much better team than GS
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Post#1154 » by tsamo » Yesterday 10:17 am

Am I the only one who thinks this is, on the whole, a nothingburger?
Personally I am not going to believe Giannis is going somewhere else till the moment we trade him.
Also, about the family thing, Giannis asked his wife if she preferred Milwaukee or Athens to live in, going forward, not US or Athens.
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Post#1155 » by ShootingtheJ » Yesterday 11:08 am

The Giannis trade chatter is always loudest when we're shopping our future 1sts. I'm guessing a Kuzma and a 1st trade is about to go down.
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Post#1156 » by Daver » Yesterday 11:12 am

tsamo wrote:Am I the only one who thinks this is, on the whole, a nothingburger?
Personally I am not going to believe Giannis is going somewhere else till the moment we trade him.
Also, about the family thing, Giannis asked his wife if she preferred Milwaukee or Athens to live in, going forward, not US or Athens.



I think it is to i mean giannis was very happy the bucks got turner n called him a big time get.Wanted porter jr n trent jr bsck got his wish there.
Said he liked the roster faster younger will run more.Called them all dogs.Seemed very cool on the bucks chances this year.
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Post#1157 » by midranger » Yesterday 11:15 am

soxperry wrote:I dont know if any one player that we could feasibly acquire makes us a real contender. But Id like to know who people think that could be.

Of guys on (what should be) non contending teams, I think the list begins and ends with Devin Booker. Maybe Ja if Memphis has a bad start.

Of course, matching salary s nearly impossible without giving a huge extension to AJ Green, which diminishes his value.

Other remote possibilities would be guys like Vassell and Herro, but they probably don’t put you on that tier.
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Post#1158 » by PG Graveyard » Yesterday 11:55 am

El Pooch Grande wrote:Sad night. Feels like it's over to me. Really thought he was cut from the Dirk/Duncan/Kobe cloth....

Also, the true reason for the relentless Giannis rumors by ESPN and the media: They want this franchise relocated to Seattle ASAP.

Buckle up gentleman, because I'm not sure the Milwaukee Bucks as we know them will exist by the end of this decade, which also makes the trade compensation and rebuild efforts around Giannis moot. Why should we care about a package for a "rebuild" if it's actually truly going to be a rebirth gift for the resurrection of the Supersonics?


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Post#1159 » by PG Graveyard » Yesterday 11:59 am

tsamo wrote:Am I the only one who thinks this is, on the whole, a nothingburger?
Personally I am not going to believe Giannis is going somewhere else till the moment we trade him.
Also, about the family thing, Giannis asked his wife if she preferred Milwaukee or Athens to live in, going forward, not US or Athens.


We don’t know anything of substance here. What we have is another nothing article from Shams that wouldn’t be printed in the National Enquirer. No sources and nothing even remotely concrete.

The kids thing is weird but I don’t buy it until I hear it from the horses mouth.

Either way it would be really nice if Giannis responded to this. Also the organization even if it’s true. Lie about it to get this vultures off of us for at least the start of the season. This has always been way too much pressure for this team.

I don’t buy the kids moving thing until I hear it from a reputable source or Giannis. Just seems so unlike him.
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Post#1160 » by ShootingtheJ » Yesterday 12:10 pm

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soxperry wrote:I dont know if any one player that we could feasibly acquire makes us a real contender. But Id like to know who people think that could be.

Of guys on (what should be) non contending teams, I think the list begins and ends with Devin Booker. Maybe Ja if Memphis has a bad start.

Of course, matching salary s nearly impossible without giving a huge extension to AJ Green, which diminishes his value.

Other remote possibilities would be guys like Vassell and Herro, but they probably don’t put you on that tier.


We're not the favorites, but we're a contender right now. The upgrade from Lopez to Turner is massive. If we had a Turner clone instead of Lopez in last years playoffs, we beat Indy, and they went to the Finals.

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