Official Tobias Harris watch thread (The End)

Ayt · Post #121 » by **Ayt** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:11 am

SkilesTheLimit wrote:Still say guys like Tobias and Doron are a dime-a-dozen in the NBA. He doesn't do anything exceptionally (I know he's only 20) and doesn't play a lick of D.

I don't see the potential in him that others do. Never struck me as very athletic.

Tobes is gonna Tobes over the next few weeks.

MoneyInDaBank07 · Post #122 » by **MoneyInDaBank07** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:11 am

blazza18 wrote:Since when could Harris jump that high and block shots like that ?

Must've been once he realized he was off the franchise where careers go to die. It's amazing how often that happens :-?

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Ill-yasova · Post #123 » by **Ill-yasova** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:34 am

blazza18 wrote:Since when could Harris jump that high and block shots like that ?

Since before we made him stand in a corner and try not to interrupt the swag twins.

JayMKE · Post #124 » by **JayMKE** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:41 am

Tobes is going to make Hammond look so stupid.

BUCKnation · Post #125 » by **BUCKnation** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:43 am

I have a feeling this is going to be one of the more depressing threads on this board.

blazza18 · Post #126 » by **blazza18** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:47 am

Ill-yasova wrote:Since before we made him stand in a corner and try not to interrupt the swag twins.

*Sigh*

JayMKE wrote:Tobes is going to make Hammond look so stupid.

I really really hope so. But I still think the moves is all Kohl though.

paul · Post #127 » by **paul** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:24 am

Was out killing myself on my push bike all day so couldn't watch any games, happy to admit I checked the Magic box score before I checked ours.

I hate us.

Baddy Chuck · Post #128 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:11 am

It doesn't matter how well Tobes plays in Orlando just as it doesn't matter how Redick plays here. We would've been the 8th seed with Tobes, we'll be the 8th seed with Redick. The problem lies in just that. You didn't improve your team very much and you gave up a young guy with potential. Tobes may never be a guy that spins the wheels, but Redick, who's 8 years older and entering free agency, isn't that guy either. Is Redick a good player? Yes. He isn't a guy who is leading your team anywhere at all without serious help though. We could very easily pick up guys like that in free agency by overpaying, which we'll have to do whether we trade for a guy at the deadline or wait for the offseason. All in all, great, you got the better player. When you get the better player and your team isn't that much better to show for it, what's the point? Unless Redick leads you to the second round this season, you gave up Tobes for literally nothing.

brettski · Post #129 » by **brettski** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:26 am

According to the realgm home page Tobes is now #2 in blocks per game behind Larry...

MikeIsGood · Post #130 » by **MikeIsGood** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:39 am

Ill-yasova wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Since when could Harris jump that high and block shots like that ?

Since before we made him stand in a corner and try not to interrupt the swag twins.

Pretty much, Ill. Pretty much. **** depressing.

stellation · Post #131 » by **stellation** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:41 am

paul wrote:Was out killing myself on my push bike all day

Gentle incline, get ready to burn!

Stopshere2 · Post #132 » by **Stopshere2** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:20 pm

MoneyInDaBank07 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Since when could Harris jump that high and block shots like that ?

Must've been once he realized he was off the franchise where careers go to die. It's amazing how often that happens .

Who are all these players who went on to flourish elsewhere? Ramon Sessions? Steve Blake?

I can think of heaps of players who went elsewhere to comparatively die - Charlie Bell, Dan Gadzuric, Mo Williams, Charlie Villanueva, Jamaal Magloire, John Salmons, Yi Jianlian, TJ Ford, Earl Boykins, Des Mason, Ruben Patterson, Bobby Simmons, Joe Smith.

We've moved a lot of players who continued not to produce and hardly anyone who went on to stardom. So many people here were high on Jon Leuer and now he rots in Memphis via Cleveland with a trip to Europe next year no doubt.

If you're arguing that Milwaukee sucked the life out of otherwise fine players so that they never again found form, I can't deny that. But maybe our FO hasn't been that stupid that they over-keep fading talent.

drsd · Post #133 » by **drsd** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:30 pm

paul wrote:... happy to admit I checked the Magic box score before I checked ours.

Magic fan here: many Magic fans followed the Bucks game closer than the recent Magic game. T'is just how this season goes.

whatthe_buck!? · Post #134 » by **whatthe_buck!?** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:42 pm

Stopshere2 wrote:
MoneyInDaBank07 wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Since when could Harris jump that high and block shots like that ?

Must've been once he realized he was off the franchise where careers go to die. It's amazing how often that happens .

Who are all these players who went on to flourish elsewhere? Ramon Sessions? Steve Blake?

I can think of heaps of players who went elsewhere to comparatively die - Charlie Bell, Dan Gadzuric, Mo Williams, Charlie Villanueva, Jamaal Magloire, John Salmons, Yi Jianlian, TJ Ford, Earl Boykins, Des Mason, Ruben Patterson, Bobby Simmons, Joe Smith.

We've moved a lot of players who continued not to produce and hardly anyone who went on to stardom. So many people here were high on Jon Leuer and now he rots in Memphis via Cleveland with a trip to Europe next year no doubt.

If you're arguing that Milwaukee sucked the life out of otherwise fine players so that they never again found form, I can't deny that. But maybe our FO hasn't been that stupid that they over-keep fading talent.

And out of all the guys u listed, how many were traded when they were 21 years old or younger? I don't buy the comparison with any of the people u mention and i dont think the argument is a strong one because all those guys were known quantities at the time we traded them. Totally different situation this time. What makes it worse is that he was an unknown quantity not at a position that we were so overloaded that it was gonna be hard to find PT for him going forward, but instead literally at the position where we have the greatest need, wing...

paul · Post #135 » by **paul** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:31 pm

Ill-yasova wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Since when could Harris jump that high and block shots like that ?

Since before we made him stand in a corner and try not to interrupt the swag twins.

Lulz, perfection.

blazza18 wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Tobes is going to make Hammond look so stupid.

I really really hope so. But I still think the moves is all Kohl though.

Regardless of who made orchestrated the move I think we can all safely say the one person he's definitely going to make look stupid is Scott Skiles. Just like Larry did.

Kerb Hohl · Post #136 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:50 pm

paul wrote:Regardless of who made orchestrated the move I think we can all safely say the one person he's definitely going to make look stupid is Scott Skiles. Just like Larry did.

Dude, Larry Sanders was getting plenty of minutes when he eventually became a good player. Did Skiles give him a little too much tough love early on? Yeah, maybe.

The guys banging this Harris drum are the same one banging the Scott Skiles drum a few months ago.

I think it's already pretty obvious that Skiles wasn't the problem, and it will become obvious when Harris isn't stat-padding against guys that will be playing overseas in 2 years that that this was much ado about nothing either.

I guess there is nothing else to pander on about here since we've reiterated how much Monta sucks on a daily basis, but the whole Skiles is suffocating superstud young players, was this incredible burden on the Bucks success as a coach, and Tobias Harris is some godly prospect get old.

Ayt · Post #137 » by **Ayt** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:53 pm

"It is already pretty obvious that Skiles wasn't the problem?" Why? Because we replaced him with a guy that has been his assistant for like 50 years?

We need a completely different coach with a different approach to the game. Skiles is a **** burnout. Who knows what his next job will be. I certainly don't see Boylan as head coaching material.

Kerb Hohl · Post #138 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:54 pm

paul wrote:Was out killing myself on my push bike all day so couldn't watch any games, happy to admit I checked the Magic box score before I checked ours.

I hate us.

You might want to check the play-by-play, specifically the 4th quarter.

All of his production came in that timeframe, down 20 points.

paul · Post #139 » by **paul** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:55 pm

GrendonJennings wrote:
paul wrote:Regardless of who made orchestrated the move I think we can all safely say the one person he's definitely going to make look stupid is Scott Skiles. Just like Larry did.

Dude, Larry Sanders was getting plenty of minutes when he eventually became a good player.

Yep, right after he spent a season and three quarters behind Drew Gooden in the rotation (and any other big with a heartbeat Skiles could find).

paul · Post #140 » by **paul** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:56 pm

GrendonJennings wrote:
paul wrote:Was out killing myself on my push bike all day so couldn't watch any games, happy to admit I checked the Magic box score before I checked ours.

I hate us.

You might want to check the play-by-play, specifically the 4th quarter.

All of his production came in that timeframe, down 20 points.

You must have missed the part in my post where I said I cared when or where he scored or even if he did?