Khris Middleton Thread

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

brown ddv, pc and Wilson all get more minutes. the roster is largely positionless outside of the 5

[emunney]

This is basically a torn quad. If that makes more sense to people than 'thigh contusion'.

So yeah the timeframe is right.

Wha???

How are those two injuries at all synonymous? A bruise vs. a tear?

If you get hit hard enough, the muscle can rupture.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

This is basically a torn quad. If that makes more sense to people than 'thigh contusion'.

So yeah the timeframe is right.

Wha???

How are those two injuries at all synonymous? A bruise vs. a tear?

If you get hit hard enough, the muscle can rupture.

not thinking thats what happened based on the 3-4 week expected recovery?

How long does it take to recover from a quad contusion?
A mild bruise or strain may heal within a few weeks. A more severe bruise or strain may take 6 weeks or longer. Sometimes a large bruise may bleed a lot into the thigh muscle. Deposits of calcium may form in the muscle tissue as the bruise heals, causing a hard lump in the muscle that may last a long time.

[soxperry]

If we are still beating good teams and carrying a +8-10 point differential with Khris out, and i think that's definitely possible, it makes me feel fortunate that we signed khris instead of letting him walk.

Respectfully, I'd feel the opposite. i.e. he's replaceable, and it likely would impact his trade value. i.e. other teams thinking that Giannis is the magic beans for all of these guys (Midds, Bledsoe, Lopez, etc.)

I dont know if nba GMs look at it that way. Regardless of his success with Giannis, Middleton is undeniably gifted in iso. He may not have elite athleticism but hes very crafty and he finds ways to get his shot even with tight coverage. Thats valuable to teams that havent eliminated the mid range jumper.

I guess we'll see.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

any great player like Giannis improves the cast around him. honeslty I think middleton would be even better if it wasn't Giannis tho. a dynamic passing and shooting pg would benefit middleton even more than Giannis in that role. we talk about the gravity Giannis creates but its not like hes the only one and its not like hes the best conductor out there either

[theFireBlanket]

Brandon Knight was held back by Giannis too.

[jimmybones]

This is basically a torn quad. If that makes more sense to people than 'thigh contusion'.

So yeah the timeframe is right.

Wha???

How are those two injuries at all synonymous? A bruise vs. a tear?

If you get hit hard enough, the muscle can rupture.

Thought the MRI being negative meant not torn.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Brandon Knight was held back by Giannis too.

fairly lame post directed at me. i think the debate was more to do with knights effect than the other way around. so my bad for not saying Giannis is the best ever orchestrating an offense and delievering the ball exactly where his teamtes would want to receive it. if you've got 2 bowling balls as your initiators(Giannis and Bledsoe)…. then who needs chris paul or steph if your a shooter right?

[Pachinko_]

A few guys from the bench can launch a brick at an efficiency that is somewhat close to Khris's to make the difference barely noticeable. Middleton's unique advantage is on defense funny enough, he's the only guy who is tall enough and mobile enough to guard 3s and taller guards and help pack the paint a bit at the same time. Basically he's our designated Kawhi defender. We don't have anyone else who can do that, Stirling/Pat/DDV/Hill/Wes are too small. That's a hole we've had in our roster for years but Khris played so many minutes we never noticed.

Unless you want to give Giannis that assignment on D but we probably don't want to have him running around too much. Maybe Connaughton is the closest thing (defensively).

[xTitan]

Just have a secret guest starter every night based on match-ups....not really that big of a deal, but whoever starts has to be a shooter.

[crkone]

A few guys from the bench can launch a brick at an efficiency that is somewhat close to Khris's to make the difference barely noticeable. Middleton's unique advantage is on defense funny enough, he's the only guy who is tall enough and mobile enough to guard 3s and taller guards and help pack the paint a bit at the same time. Basically he's our designated Kawhi defender. We don't have anyone else who can do that, Stirling/Pat/DDV/Hill/Wes are too small. That's a hole we've had in our roster for years but Khris played so many minutes we never noticed.

Unless you want to give Giannis that assignment on D but we probably don't want to have him running around too much. Maybe Connaughton is the closest thing (defensively).

"Sorry Sterling but you're going to have to put the weight back on..."

[TroyD92]

A few guys from the bench can launch a brick at an efficiency that is somewhat close to Khris's to make the difference barely noticeable. Middleton's unique advantage is on defense funny enough, he's the only guy who is tall enough and mobile enough to guard 3s and taller guards and help pack the paint a bit at the same time. Basically he's our designated Kawhi defender. We don't have anyone else who can do that, Stirling/Pat/DDV/Hill/Wes are too small. That's a hole we've had in our roster for years but Khris played so many minutes we never noticed.

Unless you want to give Giannis that assignment on D but we probably don't want to have him running around too much. Maybe Connaughton is the closest thing (defensively).

What? How are Sterling and Pat too small ? Brogdon guarded Kawhi and he’s smaller than both

[TroyD92]

Brandon Knight was held back by Giannis too.

fairly lame post directed at me. i think the debate was more to do with knights effect than the other way around. so my bad for not saying Giannis is the best ever orchestrating an offense and delievering the ball exactly where his teamtes would want to receive it. if you've got 2 bowling balls as your initiators(Giannis and Bledsoe)…. then who needs chris paul or steph if your a shooter right?

Who are these dynamic passing point guards you speak of ? Chris Paul is cooked so think of someone else

[soxperry]

A few guys from the bench can launch a brick at an efficiency that is somewhat close to Khris's to make the difference barely noticeable. Middleton's unique advantage is on defense funny enough, he's the only guy who is tall enough and mobile enough to guard 3s and taller guards and help pack the paint a bit at the same time. Basically he's our designated Kawhi defender. We don't have anyone else who can do that, Stirling/Pat/DDV/Hill/Wes are too small. That's a hole we've had in our roster for years but Khris played so many minutes we never noticed.

Unless you want to give Giannis that assignment on D but we probably don't want to have him running around too much. Maybe Connaughton is the closest thing (defensively).

So you're saying he may have even more trade value than i thought?

Come get your Kawhi stoppers, boys!

[truly]

Middleton couldn't do anything to Kawhi.We started using Brogdon on him because he is strong enough and could hold position when Kawhi was trying to push him around and get to his spots.

[emunney]

Wha???

How are those two injuries at all synonymous? A bruise vs. a tear?

If you get hit hard enough, the muscle can rupture.

Thought the MRI being negative meant not torn.

Sorry, I misspelled rapture. Khris' leg muscle was too good for this world and has ascended on a blinding beam of divine light.

[mattg]

Yeah Khris defended Kawhi because Bud put him on him, but he hardly did a good job or did anything special. Khris literally offered zero resistance and let Kawhi do whatever he wanted, get anywhere on the court he wanted, never took him out of his comfort zone. Khris was basically good for the surface level hand in face contest that doesn’t actually affect the shot at all but convinces people you’re defending. It’s like when old ass Derek Fisher would hike his shorts up in a defensive stance like he was about to lockdown and then proceed to let his man get wherever he wanted.

Brogdon did the best job out of anyone we had because he was quicker and could keep Kawhi in front of him, and was strong enough to not get bowled over.

[TD75]

any great player like Giannis improves the cast around him. honeslty I think middleton would be even better if it wasn't Giannis tho. a dynamic passing and shooting pg would benefit middleton even more than Giannis in that role. we talk about the gravity Giannis creates but its not like hes the only one and its not like hes the best conductor out there either

What do you mean "its not like hes the best conductor out there either"? Who is better?

[Pachinko_]

A few guys from the bench can launch a brick at an efficiency that is somewhat close to Khris's to make the difference barely noticeable. Middleton's unique advantage is on defense funny enough, he's the only guy who is tall enough and mobile enough to guard 3s and taller guards and help pack the paint a bit at the same time. Basically he's our designated Kawhi defender. We don't have anyone else who can do that, Stirling/Pat/DDV/Hill/Wes are too small. That's a hole we've had in our roster for years but Khris played so many minutes we never noticed.

Unless you want to give Giannis that assignment on D but we probably don't want to have him running around too much. Maybe Connaughton is the closest thing (defensively).

What? How are Sterling and Pat too small ? Brogdon guarded Kawhi and he’s smaller than both

How? They are 1.96m, Khris is 2.03m

[jute2003]

Yeah Khris defended Kawhi because Bud put him on him, but he hardly did a good job or did anything special. Khris literally offered zero resistance and let Kawhi do whatever he wanted, get anywhere on the court he wanted, never took him out of his comfort zone. Khris was basically good for the surface level hand in face contest that doesn’t actually affect the shot at all but convinces people you’re defending. It’s like when old ass Derek Fisher would hike his shorts up in a defensive stance like he was about to lockdown and then proceed to let his man get wherever he wanted.

Brogdon did the best job out of anyone we had because he was quicker and could keep Kawhi in front of him, and was strong enough to not get bowled over.

Khris was pretty damn good for the first game and a half of the series. He then became very not good.