Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Joe Johnson workout, pg 97

The Wet Whistle · Post #121 » by **The Wet Whistle** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:49 pm

https://tradenba.com/trades/ABEJdWazv

Don't love the value for SAC here but I think the DET part is workable

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ShootingtheJ · Post #122 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:51 pm

While I don't like DJA, I think it helps us that numerous contenders are looking for vetetan playmaking PGs that can also shoot. That is DJA if you squint hard enough or have a long memory.

Teams looking for a PG include the Knicks, who have cap room, and Philly, who have a big TPE. I think this helps us get inclined in a 3 team trade.

The guard we add doesn't even need to be a PG. Nobody realizes it, but Donte has been playing PG for us as much as anyone.

drone3 · Post #123 » by **drone3** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:02 am

drone3 wrote:DJW + Craig for Jabari

Bjelica also works

skones · Post #124 » by **skones** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:14 am

Just flip DJW for Whiteside or McGee and you put yourself in position to sign a buyout. This isn't that difficult. Shore up rim protection. Give yourself the ability to sign a ball handler/wing. We could dramatically improve our defense pretty quickly.

H2tObes · Post #125 » by **H2tObes** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:16 am

Looks like Aldridge getting traded/bought out

ShootingtheJ · Post #126 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:24 am

H2tObes wrote:Looks like Aldridge getting traded/bought out

Spurs are worse by a decent amount when he plays, hope he isn't dealt to us.

StickeeFingaz · Post #127 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:26 am

I've watched a few Spurs games this year and Aldridge can't move his feet, super slow. Can still hit that midrange jumper though.

skones · Post #128 » by **skones** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:27 am

Yes to Aldridge of Brook is dealt to shore up the bench/get another lengthy big. With Brook, no to Aldridge. I want a different frontcourt look in our respective units.

BigO · Post #129 » by **BigO** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:41 am

I hope all the trades everyone proposes on this board happens. That will be the only way this board will realize that the major problem, albeit not the only one, is the coach. I remember all the hoopla about getting more shooters on this team. How'd that work out?
Bud is stuck on the drop defense, with the occasional tease of trying something else. He won't change.
And on offense, he refuses to post his players, except Khris occasionally.
Getting different players will not make the schemes better. Hell, you have a starting lineup of great individual defenders (I know everyone thinks Lopez sucks, but he was second team all defense last season) and they can't overcome the scheme.

raferfenix · Post #130 » by **raferfenix** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:16 am

Just in terms of salaries, Aldridge for BroLo + Augustin + Wilson appears to work.

What is Pop looking in return for Aldridge? Would he positively value Lopez to replace him, or nah?

And does this actually make the Bucks better? If that’s questionable, would it still be worth it just to get Aldridge’s ending deal?

Isocleas2 · Post #131 » by **Isocleas2** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:32 am

I don't really have much hope the Bucks can trade for much of anything besides other teams trash/bad contracts to match the Bucks. Hopefully one of those trash players is more useful than our current trash. At the very least they can free up a couple mil to sign someone.

However I do have hope the Bucks can convince a good buyout player or 2 to sign. They can offer 20-30mins of consistent rotation time next to a pretty good starting 4. Most contenders (and prior Bucks teams) were deep enough that all they could get were old ring chasers ready to retire. Now they may actually be able to get someone younger who just wants to showcase their talent/rehab their image on the big stage in hopes of snagging one more longterm deal. Someone more useful.

ILikeBigBucks · Post #132 » by **ILikeBigBucks** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:34 am

What about something centered around DJA for George Hill with OKC? We could use Donte, DJW, or Craig to balance the salary. If they are high enough on Donte maybe we could even pry one of their young wings to replace him as part of the deal.

Think Hill was a better fit than DJA and they are on similar length deals so OKC may do it if they want to take a flyer on DJW or are interested enough in Donte. Or worst case scenario for OKC is they take Craig or Wilson back to match salaries it is a few million off the books a few years earlier than it would if they kept Hill.

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WRau1 · Post #133 » by **WRau1** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:16 am

ILikeBigBucks wrote:What about something centered around DJA for George Hill with OKC? We could use Donte, DJW, or Craig to balance the salary. If they are high enough on Donte maybe we could even pry one of their young wings to replace him as part of the deal.

Think Hill was a better fit than DJA and they are on similar length deals so OKC may do it if they want to take a flyer on DJW or are interested enough in Donte. Or worst case scenario for OKC is they take Craig or Wilson back to match salaries it is a few million off the books a few years earlier than it would if they kept Hill.

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We can't trade for or sign Hill until next season since we traded him this season.

DanoMac · Post #134 » by **DanoMac** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:05 am

ILikeBigBucks wrote:What about something centered around DJA for George Hill with OKC? We could use Donte, DJW, or Craig to balance the salary. If they are high enough on Donte maybe we could even pry one of their young wings to replace him as part of the deal.

Think Hill was a better fit than DJA and they are on similar length deals so OKC may do it if they want to take a flyer on DJW or are interested enough in Donte. Or worst case scenario for OKC is they take Craig or Wilson back to match salaries it is a few million off the books a few years earlier than it would if they kept Hill.

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Hill's heart is in the right place, and I agree with every movement, but, something **** up the chemistry last year and my gut wants to say it started with Hill, somehow.

emunney · Post #135 » by **emunney** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:19 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:While I don't like DJA, I think it helps us that numerous contenders are looking for vetetan playmaking PGs that can also shoot. That is DJA if you squint hard enough or have a long memory.

Teams looking for a PG include the Knicks, who have cap room, and Philly, who have a big TPE. I think this helps us get inclined in a 3 team trade.

The guard we add doesn't even need to be a PG. Nobody realizes it, but Donte has been playing PG for us as much as anyone.

Donte has made meaningful strides this season as a facilitator, but I still think that player should at least be a combo. I'd like for it to be as complete a player as possible, not extremely deficient in any one area. That's part of why I like mid's Shaq Harrison idea. You like him iirc. He was on my list of cheap pickups last summer, too. With the Jazz's depth relative to ours, getting cut from them doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't help us.

Also think we should try to get a better look at Merrill and of course Mamadi. It would be ideal to do this before the trade deadline, especially since they're both 24. If they can't find an opportunity on this team...

thonnisbeastley · Post #136 » by **thonnisbeastley** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:19 am

DanoMac wrote:
ILikeBigBucks wrote:What about something centered around DJA for George Hill with OKC? We could use Donte, DJW, or Craig to balance the salary. If they are high enough on Donte maybe we could even pry one of their young wings to replace him as part of the deal.

Think Hill was a better fit than DJA and they are on similar length deals so OKC may do it if they want to take a flyer on DJW or are interested enough in Donte. Or worst case scenario for OKC is they take Craig or Wilson back to match salaries it is a few million off the books a few years earlier than it would if they kept Hill.

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Hill's heart is in the right place, and I agree with every movement, but, something **** up the chemistry last year and my gut wants to say it started with Hill, somehow.

When your locker room leader starts talking to the media about how the league shouldn't even be playing in the bubble, you can pretty much guarantee that has an effect on the mood of the team. I'm willing to bet he would be accepted back with open arms though, don't think players would hold a grudge if he was in fact a big reason for the chemistry issues. A lot of **** has gone down over the last year and everyone has had to deal with it in their own way.

thrice123 · Post #137 » by **thrice123** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:21 am

Would it be possilbe to get Bjelica and Terrance Ross? That would be a dream deadline. I haven't even checked what Bjelica makes but i know Ross makes over 10m.

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LuessiT · Post #138 » by **LuessiT** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:31 am

thrice123 wrote:Would it be possilbe to get Bjelica and Terrance Ross? That would be a dream deadline. I haven't even checked what Bjelica makes but i know Ross makes over 10m.

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Depends on Brook's value around the league. Usually I'd say I've got a good grasp on value but with Brook I feel like his value is highly volatile depending what GM you ask.

emunney · Post #139 » by **emunney** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:33 pm

skones wrote:Just flip DJW for Whiteside or McGee and you put yourself in position to sign a buyout. This isn't that difficult. Shore up rim protection. Give yourself the ability to sign a ball handler/wing. We could dramatically improve our defense pretty quickly.

I'd do this in a second but I don't think Cleveland or Sacto would unless there's no other interest and they're thinking of buying those guys out. I guess in either case you'd be hoping they see something in DJ and are willing to take a flyer.

Brewhoopfan · Post #140 » by **Brewhoopfan** » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:35 pm

Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't want to see any moves which pushes Portis out of the rotation. Perhaps it's because he's still a shiny new toy. He has far surpassed my expectations and is playing well in his role IMO. I guess the only scenario where this happens is if they bring in a starting big and push Brook to the bench. I'd prefer Portis in the 2nd unit, unless the Bucks are willing to put Brook on the block to score. One might be able to argue for Brook as the drop zone defender in the 2nd unit might be a good idea given the poor wing defenders we bring off the bench. Nah, give me Portis's scoring.