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Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year

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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#121 » by Daver » Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:38 pm

GBPackers47 wrote:This thread is going to age like milk.

The board is going to demand that Horst dump Trent for peanuts at some point this season, just like they did with Beasley.

Find little things that one does better than the other all you want, but the fact of the matter is they both suck. There's a reason it's week 3 of FA and dude is picking up a minimum contract.

Hell, this is the first time teams had to spend to hit the salary floor by the time the new league year started with the new CBA and the guy still couldn't get a deal.

Yes, signing Trent for the minimum is better than not signing Trent for the minimum, but anyone thinking this is anything different than Beasley last year is delusional.





You couldnt be more wrong trent is better than beas on D n on the O side trent has had some very good years
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#122 » by GBPackers47 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:42 pm

MiltownMadness wrote:
GBPackers47 wrote:This thread is going to age like milk.

The board is going to demand that Horst dump Trent for peanuts at some point this season, just like they did with Beasley.

Find little things that one does better than the other all you want, but the fact of the matter is they both suck. There's a reason it's week 3 of FA and dude is picking up a minimum contract.

Hell, this is the first time teams had to spend to hit the salary floor by the time the new league year started with the new CBA and the guy still couldn't get a deal.

Yes, signing Trent for the minimum is better than not signing Trent for the minimum, but anyone thinking this is anything different than Beasley last year is delusional.

Beasley was apart of one of the best 5 man lineups in basketball last year. The bar is very low.


So why not just play Pat there if the bar is so low?

I've wanted Pat gone for a long time, but he's a better defender than Trent and has better career advanced stats than Trent.

My point is a lot of folks are talking themselves into believing this is so much better than the Beasley signing. It isn't. It's the same.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#123 » by drdrG » Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:47 pm

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drdrG wrote:I still think Horst has had a bad run of net negative roster moves going back to trading for Holiday. I'll give him credit today. As many have said, these minimum signings are all upgrades. Younger, more athletic, better shooting. Bev was solid despite the obligatory antics but Crowder and Beas were doodoo. This cast makes much more sense around our core. Need a young guy to hit


Are you saying you weren't a fan of trading Bledsoe for Jrue????????????


No, sorry for the lack of clarity. That was clearly a very positive move for the org. Following Jrue, trading DDV, trading for Crowder, poor drafting, resigning Lopez instead of a S&T, giving Pat a player option all count against Horst.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#124 » by jimmybones » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:01 pm

I love that our rotation is pretty much set and none of the young guys have to be thrust into a spot they aren't ready for but there's still room for them to take a leap and surpass some of those vets in the pecking order for minutes. Our floor is set with vets but there's room for upside if any of the young dudes hit and take someone's minutes
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#125 » by msiris » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:12 pm

Not an old min vet. Yahhhh. Should be starter.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#126 » by drone3 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:13 pm

Woaw, was not expecting this... I'm pumped.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#127 » by higharc » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:15 pm

GBPackers47 wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:
GBPackers47 wrote:This thread is going to age like milk.

The board is going to demand that Horst dump Trent for peanuts at some point this season, just like they did with Beasley.

Find little things that one does better than the other all you want, but the fact of the matter is they both suck. There's a reason it's week 3 of FA and dude is picking up a minimum contract.

Hell, this is the first time teams had to spend to hit the salary floor by the time the new league year started with the new CBA and the guy still couldn't get a deal.

Yes, signing Trent for the minimum is better than not signing Trent for the minimum, but anyone thinking this is anything different than Beasley last year is delusional.

Beasley was apart of one of the best 5 man lineups in basketball last year. The bar is very low.


So why not just play Pat there if the bar is so low?

I've wanted Pat gone for a long time, but he's a better defender than Trent and has better career advanced stats than Trent.

My point is a lot of folks are talking themselves into believing this is so much better than the Beasley signing. It isn't. It's the same.


Not the same as Beasley.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#128 » by Profound23 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:16 pm

Great signing. Unless someone offers us some young player who hasn't peaked yet, we should not be making any moves.

Keep this team as is, consistency will win us a title if we can stay healthy. If the big three can't stay healthy then there is no trade that can help us.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#129 » by drew881 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:16 pm

Very nice. Still hoping we move on from Brook and go with someone more versatile at center, but can't complain with this move.
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Post#130 » by AussieBuck » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:28 pm

Would rather an actual defender rather than a guy getting by on fast hands and antics but he's still out best off guard since Donte. Go get the Brazilian Giannis and call it a day.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#131 » by Shaffty » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:35 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Would rather an actual defender rather than a guy getting by on fast hands and antics


who would that have been?
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#132 » by AussieBuck » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:37 pm

Shaffty wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Would rather an actual defender rather than a guy getting by on fast hands and antics


who would that have been?

I think there may be more than one.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#133 » by Badgerlander » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:37 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Would rather an actual defender rather than a guy getting by on fast hands and antics but he's still out best off guard since Donte. Go get the Brazilian Giannis and call it a day.


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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#134 » by Bernman » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:38 pm

GBPackers47 wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:
GBPackers47 wrote:This thread is going to age like milk.

The board is going to demand that Horst dump Trent for peanuts at some point this season, just like they did with Beasley.

Find little things that one does better than the other all you want, but the fact of the matter is they both suck. There's a reason it's week 3 of FA and dude is picking up a minimum contract.

Hell, this is the first time teams had to spend to hit the salary floor by the time the new league year started with the new CBA and the guy still couldn't get a deal.

Yes, signing Trent for the minimum is better than not signing Trent for the minimum, but anyone thinking this is anything different than Beasley last year is delusional.

Beasley was apart of one of the best 5 man lineups in basketball last year. The bar is very low.


So why not just play Pat there if the bar is so low?

I've wanted Pat gone for a long time, but he's a better defender than Trent and has better career advanced stats than Trent.

My point is a lot of folks are talking themselves into believing this is so much better than the Beasley signing. It isn't. It's the same.


The Bucks likely wouldn't have signed Beasley last yr if they had already traded Jrue for Dame. So their perception is likely different here.

There's discernibly better quickness, length, & awareness from Beasley. Bease was sort of thick bodied, couldn't anticipate a move, & would lose his man for long periods while he was watching the rest of the action.

You'll simply not see people ever thinking Bease was ever a decent or good defender, whereas you see that opinion semi-common among fans of GT's prior teams. Early in his career he was perceived as a good defender & he played a lot next to Dame.

If Trent was such a bad defender & 1:1 to Bease, why has Trent played 30+ both playoffs, & Bease never even 22? I doubt it's Trent's sparkling ts% of 50. Bease has actually been better in that department.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#135 » by Shaffty » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:39 pm

AussieBuck wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Would rather an actual defender rather than a guy getting by on fast hands and antics


who would that have been?

I think there may be more than one.



name one for me.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#136 » by AussieBuck » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:42 pm

Shaffty wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
who would that have been?

I think there may be more than one.



name one for me.

Quite enjoying that you're desperate to have an argument seemingly because I'm not sufficiently excited about this signing for your liking. You're being a weirdo, dude.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#137 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:54 pm

GBPackers47 wrote:This thread is going to age like milk.

The board is going to demand that Horst dump Trent for peanuts at some point this season, just like they did with Beasley.

Find little things that one does better than the other all you want, but the fact of the matter is they both suck. There's a reason it's week 3 of FA and dude is picking up a minimum contract.

Hell, this is the first time teams had to spend to hit the salary floor by the time the new league year started with the new CBA and the guy still couldn't get a deal.

Yes, signing Trent for the minimum is better than not signing Trent for the minimum, but anyone thinking this is anything different than Beasley last year is delusional.


hes somewhere between a rock solid sg youre not trying to upgrade.... and beasley. in fact beasley as his comp is absurd and his name would never be mentioned that way here except we just happened to have him here. beasley hasnt even been a consistent starter on the poor teams hes played for. he was a scrub we promoted basically.

gtj is more along the lines of a similar impact to grayson but i say bigger upside.

i think youre way off on your assessment here. like waaaay off
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#138 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:55 pm

The combo of Wright and Trent Jr. sufficiently upgraded our shooting guard spot rather significantly. Pretty happy with our offseason signings, wish we did more elsewhere but I guess time will tell.
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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#139 » by soxperry » Wed Jul 17, 2024 12:00 am

AussieBuck wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:I think there may be more than one.



name one for me.

Quite enjoying that you're desperate to have an argument seemingly because I'm not sufficiently excited about this signing for your liking. You're being a weirdo, dude.


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Re: Gary Trent Jr. signs with the Bucks - one year 

Post#140 » by Shaffty » Wed Jul 17, 2024 12:01 am

AussieBuck wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:I think there may be more than one.



name one for me.

Quite enjoying that you're desperate to have an argument seemingly because I'm not sufficiently excited about this signing for your liking. You're being a weirdo, dude.



No im trying to ask you who the Bucks should have signed instead of GTJ thats an "actual defender", thats your complaint. that you would have liked a "actual" defender, my question is who? This is realGM lets have actual discusions about ACTUAL options the Bucks could have gone with instead.

you wont give me a name because the reality of the situation is there ISNT one

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