PG Rockets - Win!!!

[BuckFan25226]

Look at the difference between having Dame with the ball with 6 seconds left and Giannis the other day.

To be fair.....Giannis' mid game has been really good. I didn't mind the shot.

[yb90]

Look at the difference between having Dame with the ball with 6 seconds left and Giannis the other day.

To be fair.....Giannis' mid game has been really good. I didn't mind the shot.

I don't mind it but the better play is to get down hill to the basket and finish, get fouled, pass out to threee/ alley to Brook, or miss.

Lillard has missed shots and missed an easy alley or dump off to Giannis a few games ago so no one is perfect. You want players not afraid of the moment and Giannis, Lillard, and Khris are 3 great closing options. I also may need to add Dairy to that list. His shot was not a game winner but it was clutch and despite his numbers he wasn't afraid of the moment.

[Ron Swanson]

Crazy how we go back to not shooting threes with Dame in the lineup. #1 in post-up possessions in the league? GTFO.

This makes me resigned to the fact that Doc just doesn't get it. He's fine with relying on the 3-ball when other options are limited (Raptors game), but dude is just perpetually stuck in 2009. The offense needs to be built around spacers letting it fly around Giannis and Dame dribble penetration.

At least Brook has gotten the memo the last 4-games (31 attempts), but there's only so much that punting Bobby and his post-ups into the Sun can accomplish when your offensive philosophy isn't generating enough 3PT attempts. We out-shot them 39% to 28% from 3, yet it was only a 1-point victory because we only attempted 33 shots (just 10 in the 2nd half). Inexcusable.

[Ron Swanson]

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All in all though, this was a legitimately great win. Houston has been the best team in basketball not named the Cavs the last few weeks, and we beat them at their own game in a grind-it-out defensive battle.

[RogerMurdock]

Lost in the discussion of how the Bucks got lucky on the final play was that Dame's drive and layup to take the lead was REALLY good.

[Siefer]

Crazy how we go back to not shooting threes with Dame in the lineup. #1 in post-up possessions in the league? GTFO.

This makes me resigned to the fact that Doc just doesn't get it. He's fine with relying on the 3-ball when other options are limited (Raptors game), but dude is just perpetually stuck in 2009. The offense needs to be built around spacers letting it fly around Giannis and Dame dribble penetration.

At least Brook has gotten the memo the last 4-games (31 attempts), but there's only so much that punting Bobby and his post-ups into the Sun can accomplish when your offensive philosophy isn't generating enough 3PT attempts. We out-shot them 39% to 28% from 3, yet it was only a 1-point victory because we only attempted 33 shots (just 10 in the 2nd half). Inexcusable.

Part of the frustration here is we match up really well against a bunch of the good teams in the league this year. We're just structurally good against teams like the Celtics, Rockets, Cavs, and Knicks. With all of our roster problems, I still feel like we have the horses to compete.

We're getting absolutely massacred on shot profile and rebounding - two areas Bud's teams always excelled in. Our defense was legitimately good last night, but Houston took 17 more shots than us, largely due to an absurd 16:4 offensive rebounds edge. We're 25th in rebounding rate with Giannis and Brook playing almost every game.

[BigO]

Crazy how we go back to not shooting threes with Dame in the lineup. #1 in post-up possessions in the league? GTFO.

This makes me resigned to the fact that Doc just doesn't get it. He's fine with relying on the 3-ball when other options are limited (Raptors game), but dude is just perpetually stuck in 2009. The offense needs to be built around spacers letting it fly around Giannis and Dame dribble penetration.

At least Brook has gotten the memo the last 4-games (31 attempts), but there's only so much that punting Bobby and his post-ups into the Sun can accomplish when your offensive philosophy isn't generating enough 3PT attempts. We out-shot them 39% to 28% from 3, yet it was only a 1-point victory because we only attempted 33 shots (just 10 in the 2nd half). Inexcusable.

Part of the frustration here is we match up really well against a bunch of the good teams in the league this year. We're just structurally good against teams like the Celtics, Rockets, Cavs, and Knicks. With all of our roster problems, I still feel like we have the horses to compete.

We're getting absolutely massacred on shot profile and rebounding - two areas Bud's teams always excelled in. Our defense was legitimately good last night, but Houston took 17 more shots than us, largely due to an absurd 16:4 offensive rebounds edge. We're 25th in rebounding rate with Giannis and Brook playing almost every game.

Houston is the best rebounding team in the league. The Bucks should be one of the best in the league, so I do put that on coaching. Bud emphasized it as was one of his top priorities., although this season the Suns aren't a great rebounding team.

In terms of three point shots, Houston doesn't take many because they don't have the shooters. The Bucks don't have the shooters either. You can't make up for lack of three pointers by simply increasing the volume.

Chicago and Charlotte are two and three in the league in 3 point attempts. Neither team is very good on offense.

[JBucks]

Noticed no Pat last night. Coach's decision?

[LISTEN2JAZZ]

How did Andre Jackson start and close the game with under 5 minutes playing time? Curious what happened there. (only watched the highlights)

[humanrefutation]

Dame is 1 for his last 18 from 3.

And still shooting 35% from three.

Check again.

Still shooting better than FVV. And that's without factoring in the concussion.

[German Athens]

How did Andre Jackson start and close the game with under 5 minutes playing time? Curious what happened there. (only watched the highlights)

I think it’s mostly due to Delon and Gary playing well. Doc likes to play the hot hand more than Bud did, so I think we’re prone to larger playing time swings.

There was some really nice bench production in the second with Delon and Gary in, maybe green, too. The ball was moving side to side, they were being disruptive defensively, and they were playing with a nice pace. It makes sense to continue riding with that group.

[-Jragon-]

Crazy how we go back to not shooting threes with Dame in the lineup. #1 in post-up possessions in the league? GTFO.

This makes me resigned to the fact that Doc just doesn't get it. He's fine with relying on the 3-ball when other options are limited (Raptors game), but dude is just perpetually stuck in 2009. The offense needs to be built around spacers letting it fly around Giannis and Dame dribble penetration.

At least Brook has gotten the memo the last 4-games (31 attempts), but there's only so much that punting Bobby and his post-ups into the Sun can accomplish when your offensive philosophy isn't generating enough 3PT attempts. We out-shot them 39% to 28% from 3, yet it was only a 1-point victory because we only attempted 33 shots (just 10 in the 2nd half). Inexcusable.

If we developed a decent lob game (lob city style) with Giannis/AJJ/Brook, eventually any action we run towards the hoop will make the defense collapse and leave 3 point shooters wide open. We need some rim runners or back screens after the iniitial action.

[-Jragon-]

Giannis and AJJ should be catching a minimum of 2 alley-oops per game... they are freaks

[Ron Swanson]

Crazy how we go back to not shooting threes with Dame in the lineup. #1 in post-up possessions in the league? GTFO.

This makes me resigned to the fact that Doc just doesn't get it. He's fine with relying on the 3-ball when other options are limited (Raptors game), but dude is just perpetually stuck in 2009. The offense needs to be built around spacers letting it fly around Giannis and Dame dribble penetration.

At least Brook has gotten the memo the last 4-games (31 attempts), but there's only so much that punting Bobby and his post-ups into the Sun can accomplish when your offensive philosophy isn't generating enough 3PT attempts. We out-shot them 39% to 28% from 3, yet it was only a 1-point victory because we only attempted 33 shots (just 10 in the 2nd half). Inexcusable.

If we developed a decent lob game (lob city style) with Giannis/AJJ/Brook, eventually any action we run towards the hoop will make the defense collapse and leave 3 point shooters wide open. We need some rim runners or back screens after the iniitial action.

It doesn't need to be this complicated because you don't need Andre in there mucking up the spacing. Dame at the top-of-key with Giannis and Brook as double screeners, while your two 57% corner-3 guys (yes those are the current numbers for Trent and Prince) sit in the corners ready to launch. It's the most obvious half-court play/offensive structure you need to spam endlessly, but Doc seems intent on running these useless actions that free up.....Gary Trent for a running 10-foot floater? Like, this is just objectively dumb basketball with easy fixes, and it's holding this team back tremendously.

[German Athens]

Yeah, it is pretty jarring the lack of high horns sets. We even started to figure that out under Griff.

I guess my hope is that it’s not that hard to run those other plays, and that would immediately change our offensive dynamics.

Another one that I think is frustratingly infrequent is a side screen going middle. That would allow Giannis an empty corner roll, and not pin Dame in the corner where his lack of size can make skip passes an issue.

[German Athens]

I do like the Giannis dribble hand off side action, but we don’t really have the right personnel for it right now.

Khris would normally be the guy getting the ball there, and that would open up so much, because he’s a danger to hit the shot from outside, or pull up in traffic after the screen. He also is a very unselfish passer with the size to actually make the right passes.

Ideally we have another dude who can run that set. Someone with a few of these attributes: movement shooter, passing vision, finishing athleticism, and the requisite size to either make the pass, finish at the hoop, or pull up in traffic. Prince is doing okay with it, but he’s not the passer, pull up threat, and his burst isn’t solid enough to finish reliably over the top.

[-Jragon-]

I do like the Giannis dribble hand off side action, but we don’t really have the right personnel for it right now.

Khris would normally be the guy getting the ball there, and that would open up so much, because he’s a danger to hit the shot from outside, or pull up in traffic after the screen. He also is a very unselfish passer with the size to actually make the right passes.

Ideally we have another dude who can run that set. Someone with a few of these attributes: movement shooter, passing vision, finishing athleticism, and the requisite size to either make the pass, finish at the hoop, or pull up in traffic. Prince is doing okay with it, but he’s not the passer, pull up threat, and his burst isn’t solid enough to finish reliably over the top.

A cutting Brook... give him 3 options on the catch.. pass A, pass B, or shoot.. he has the height, passing and holds the ball high

[Neuromancer56]

We deserved to lose that one with that kind of performance from our stars. Thank god Brook and the role guys bailed us out.

Wow I never thought we'd hear this said about the Bucks.

[old skool]

I don't see scheme as the problem as much as execution.

Does anyone think that the Bucks offense calls for Giannis to wear down the shot clock backing down to the basket? Or that the plan is for Lillard to pound his dribble for 15 seconds or so, probing for an opening without any rhyme or reason?

When both of them are on the court, ball movement and player movement slows to a halt. Reminds me of the impact Anthony Mason had on the Bucks in the Karl era.

Rivers has clearly made inroads with Giannis, cutting down on unproductive 3's. He doesn't seem to be as effective getting Antetokounmpo and Lillard to move without the ball, and move the ball when it comes to them. You know, like the rest of the team does within the offense.

[StickeeFingaz]

The offensive scheme I see is pretty simple. We’re always looking for post up mismatches, that seems to be priority #1.

If there’s no mismatch in the post, go to pick n roll with Dame as primary ball handler when on the court, and just play basketball off of PnR action.

If Dame is off court and Giannis is on, Giannis has freedom to do whatever the hell he wants.