Is Khris cooked?

Finn · Post #121 » by **Finn** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 8:48 pm

You 2 should take this to PMs. Or realize neither one is changing their tune & drop it. Please, for the good of the board.

ShootingtheJ · Post #122 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:08 pm

Finn wrote:You 2 should take this to PMs. Or realize neither one is changing their tune & drop it. Please, for the good of the board.

Sorry, I'm sure it's annoying, it would be one thing to disagree with opinions, but I'm not going to let him straight out lie.

Baddy Chuck · Post #123 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:32 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:In fact the Bucks defense is good with any of their players on the floor, except Dame. The defense absolutely craters when Dame steps on the floor, he's one the the biggest negatives in the entire league.

It craters when we leave Dame out there on his own without Giannis. When Giannis is on the floor our defense is actually better with Dame than without.

ShootingtheJ · Post #124 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:56 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:In fact the Bucks defense is good with any of their players on the floor, except Dame. The defense absolutely craters when Dame steps on the floor, he's one the the biggest negatives in the entire league.

It craters when we leave Dame out there on his own without Giannis. When Giannis is on the floor our defense is actually better with Dame than without.

The Bucks defensive rating with Giannis off the floor is 111, so everyone else is doing just fine with Giannis off.

Baddy Chuck · Post #125 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:19 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:In fact the Bucks defense is good with any of their players on the floor, except Dame. The defense absolutely craters when Dame steps on the floor, he's one the the biggest negatives in the entire league.

It craters when we leave Dame out there on his own without Giannis. When Giannis is on the floor our defense is actually better with Dame than without.

The Bucks defensive rating with Giannis off the floor is 111, so everyone else is doing just fine with Giannis off.

Is the goal to not play our best player? Currently playing our best player doesn't get worse playing with a boat anchor, it gets better. I understand you want Dame traded, and there would be ways to improve without Dame for sure, but it doesn't seem like there's any intentions for the Bucks to trade Dame so to me figuring out ways to optimize around our best players seems like the goal. Personally, I couldn't care less about the Giannisless/Dameless splits right now because when it comes playoffs I don't really care what Delon Wright and Gary Trent Jr were doing coming off the bench in December. Currently for whatever reason lineups like that are straight carrying our DRTG. Without Dame and Giannis we have a 96 DRTG. To me that doesn't seem smart or sustainable to even conceive building the roster around.

RogerMurdock · Post #126 » by **RogerMurdock** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:13 am

Verdict: not cooked

Post #127 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:14 am

I'm just glad Khris is upping his trade value.

msiris · Post #128 » by **msiris** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:21 am

It doesn't matter. We are sh$t and won't win anything. Enjoy your victory lap. Bravo.

ShootingtheJ · Post #129 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:47 am

If you thought Khris was cooked, it's possible you are wrong about other things too.

msiris · Post #130 » by **msiris** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:13 am

Some people won't take off their rose color glasses and realize that 30 million for a 25 minute guy isn't going to cut it. Give him Bobbys money and that would be ok.

ShootingtheJ · Post #131 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:32 am

Some people know the difference between a regular season game and the playoffs.

If Khris didn't have injury concerns, he'd make $48 million.

msiris · Post #132 » by **msiris** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:39 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Some people know the difference between a regular season game and the playoffs.

If Khris didn't have injury concerns, he'd make $48 million.

You must be his agent. Lol

msiris · Post #133 » by **msiris** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:08 am

Saying he was cooked was cooked might have taken it too far. Should have been is he reliable? No he is 33 and has the body of a 50 year old. You want to pay him that kind of money go for it.

Baddy Chuck · Post #134 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:16 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Some people know the difference between a regular season game and the playoffs.

If Khris didn't have injury concerns, he'd make $48 million.

PJ Tucker didn't help us despite having the best on/off for the playoffs, Jimmy Butler reaches the finals but shoots 40% or w/e soem series so he's a playoff bum, Dame scores 31 a game in our playoff series last season and comes back hurt but he's just showcasing for an all-star spot. Sometimes its hard to what playoff performer consists of.

old skool · Post #135 » by **old skool** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 8:15 am

Middleton seemed to be limping off the court early in the 4th quarter for a scheduled substitution. Favoring his right leg.

ShootingtheJ · Post #136 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:33 pm

msiris wrote:Saying he was cooked was cooked might have taken it too far. Should have been is he reliable? No he is 33 and has the body of a 50 year old. You want to pay him that kind of money go for it.

No, I don't want to pay him that, as he does have injury concerns. I've always thought the Khris stuff was simple, he's worth more to the Bucks than he'd return in trade, and he's a playoff performer. Those are hard to find.

RogerMurdock · Post #137 » by **RogerMurdock** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:46 pm

msiris wrote:Some people won't take off their rose color glasses and realize that 30 million for a 25 minute guy isn't going to cut it. Give him Bobbys money and that would be ok.

That wasn't the question posed by the OP.

crkone · Post #138 » by **crkone** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 2:08 pm

Spoiler:

Like clockwork

msiris · Post #139 » by **msiris** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 4:08 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:
msiris wrote:Some people won't take off their rose color glasses and realize that 30 million for a 25 minute guy isn't going to cut it. Give him Bobbys money and that would be ok.

That wasn't the question posed by the OP.

Should have been. Whe healthy he can still cook But.

msiris · Post #140 » by **msiris** » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:26 pm

Can his contract be redone? Ok we will give 33 over the next 3 years.

Is Khris Middleton cooked?