Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin

Frank Nova · Post #121 » by **Frank Nova** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:36 pm

Can Kuzma be re-routed? This can’t be the only move. Horst is an absolute bozo if he thinks this was the way to make the roster better.

fansinceforever · Post #122 » by **fansinceforever** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:36 pm

Wonka wrote:Why did Horst even draft AJ?

Great question

RW23 · Post #123 » by **RW23** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:36 pm

Let's provide some balance here:

- The deal cannot be fully judged until we see what else they may do w/ getting under the second apron
- The team knows more than we do about its own players (Khris's health / ability to play 2 months of postseason basketball, AJ Johnson's development, etc)
- We did get younger. **If** Kuzma ends up being a useful player, this team's contending window (albeit maybe fringe) may have extended for another year or two. 34yo midds was not going to be a part of a contending team (33yo midds off double ankle surgery might not have either). If that comes to fruition, another year or two of having Giannis + an outside chance at a title is worth it
- Despite what the general sentiment of this board may suggest, you don't just get good assets for bad assets. You invest in depressed assets, w/ a hope/belief that you bought low. Kuzma checks that box.

Matches Malone · Post #124 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:36 pm

Doubt.

Read on Twitter

Post #125 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:36 pm

Khris' medicals must have also been a mess.

ABucksFan · Post #126 » by **ABucksFan** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:36 pm

Maybe Kuzma replaces Bobby, then Bobby+whatever replaces Khris?

jschligs · Post #127 » by **jschligs** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:37 pm

I feel like this was 100% financially motivated and they know we're not a contender. I'm sad, mainly because I hate Kuzma as a player.

Licensed to Il · Post #128 » by **Licensed to Il** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:37 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:
Licensed to Il wrote:Does this at least bring us under the 2nd apron?

Yes. Buckle up.

I'm not defending this trade, nor do I look forward to watching that goof Kuzma chuck and whiff. But I have to think there are more moves coming, that push Kuz down the pecking order and salvage the season. Because doing nothing is better than a Kris for Kuz swap. I have to think Horst made this to get under the apron, with a sensible Brook and/or Bobby trade to come.

JayMKE · Post #129 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:37 pm

jimmybones wrote:Who cares about the swap, Washington will always suck. Does Baldwin have any upside at all?

No he sucks too

buckboy · Post #130 » by **buckboy** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:37 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Wizards get a swap in 2028 LMAO

Read on Twitter

Trade is still an abomination, but this makes it less bad.

Agreed, but what's a "soft swap"?

I was about to type "it probably doesn't matter because it's Washington", but I can't really say that with any confidence.

Post #131 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:37 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Doubt.

Read on Twitter

I wonder where that came from. Not a fan of GM Giannis.

Be Here Now · Post #132 » by **Be Here Now** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:37 pm

I'll tune in for the playoffs (if we make it), but won't watch another second of regular season ball until Horst is gone. He's been the worst gm of any contender for a long time now. Just a total incompetent moron.

ABucksFan · Post #133 » by **ABucksFan** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:37 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Doubt.

Read on Twitter

Giannis gotta stop playing GM :lol:

fansinceforever · Post #134 » by **fansinceforever** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:38 pm

JayMKE wrote:Universal reaction from NBA world seems to be LOL can’t wait until Giannis is available

Chickens came home to roost now, there is no getting this team out of the tailspin Horst put us in

We'd be fools to think we're not dangerously close to this reality

crkone · Post #135 » by **crkone** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:38 pm

German Athens wrote:The 2028 swap was already sent out in the Dame trade, so this means it’s a swap of a swap.

The wizards will have the opportunity to swap firsts for the worst of the por/mil 1st in 2028.

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Interesting

JayMKE · Post #136 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:38 pm

Probably opening salvo to taking Beal to facilitate Jimmy to Phoenix

Total cuckoldry

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #137 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:38 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Wizards get a swap in 2028 LMAO

Read on Twitter

Trade is still an abomination, but this makes it less bad.

what does soft swap mean? like top 10 protected when Giannis leaves?

ShootingtheJ · Post #138 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:38 pm

It's hilarious that people are mad about Johnson. He's a total project. Scored 2 points in his last G League game. He won't be useful untill his rookie contract is over. Then someone is going to grossly overpay him because of his age.

The rest of the deal is awful though

Profound23 · Post #139 » by **Profound23** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:38 pm

ABucksFan wrote:Maybe Kuzma will actually be good, right? Change of scenery, playing with winning players? Maybee right?

That's literally our only hope currently.

jimmybones wrote:Who cares about the swap, Washington will always suck. Does Baldwin have any upside at all?

He's from UWM. Couldn't get our Marquette guy home so he's the next best thing. :lol:

MikeIsGood · Post #140 » by **MikeIsGood** » Wed Feb 5, 2025 3:39 pm

German Athens wrote:The 2028 swap was already sent out in the Dame trade, so this means it’s a swap of a swap.

The wizards will have the opportunity to swap firsts for the worst of the por/mil 1st in 2028.

NBA pick trading is such a mess, lol.