PG Orlando - Bucks Fall

[msiris]

Out of our last timeout selfish Dame time hero ball gave the ball to AJ Green with 21 seconds on the shot clock so he could shoot this off the dribble.

It was so odd. There were 25 seconds left when we inbounded. It's not like we were going for a 2 for 1. Calling a play for Green was fine but when defended like that Green can't take that shot. But he did.

Dames last shot was defended just as well.

[JimmyTheKid]

Understand people are reflexively glad no Novak.But Wes sucked. He’s got to work a chunk of UW Green Bay games first. His ‘best’ line was when he talked about when he played ‘there’ referring to playing for Milwaukee. Uh no, you’re ‘here’ tonight in Milwaukee.

Wes "sucked"? That's what you're going with? He's just starting out and I hear worse than him pretty consistently from people who are full time employees of other teams.

Thought Wes was fantastic for his first go at it. Would easily take him over both Novak and Lisa right this second.

[MickeyDavis]

Out of our last timeout selfish Dame time hero ball gave the ball to AJ Green with 21 seconds on the shot clock so he could shoot this off the dribble.

It was so odd. There were 25 seconds left when we inbounded. It's not like we were going for a 2 for 1. Calling a play for Green was fine but when defended like that Green can't take that shot. But he did.

Dames last shot was defended just as well.

Not apples to apples. 6 seconds when Dame got the ball. There had been no timeout, no play called. vs. 25 seconds left when inbounded. Coming out of a timeout when a play was called. A play that had other options if Green didn't have the shot. Lots of time but he shot it anyway. Green can be good when he has an open shot. He's rarely good when having to create his own shot.

[Turk Nowitzki]

Understand people are reflexively glad no Novak.But Wes sucked. He’s got to work a chunk of UW Green Bay games first. His ‘best’ line was when he talked about when he played ‘there’ referring to playing for Milwaukee. Uh no, you’re ‘here’ tonight in Milwaukee.

Wes "sucked"? That's what you're going with? He's just starting out and I hear worse than him pretty consistently from people who are full time employees of other teams.

Thought Wes was fantastic for his first go at it. Would easily take him over both Novak and Lisa right this second.

I also thought it was a promising debut but even accounting for the fact that people's opinions on commentators are extremely subjective, just saying he "sucked" to me is bottom of the barrel level discourse.

[MickeyDavis]

You Dame agenda dudes are absolutely deranged lol. It’s games like this that make you question if you can even put Dairy out there against playoff level defenses. Dude gets neutralized way too easily and too often due to his one-dimensional skill set. Glad that KPJ got some run with the starters, but this team needs Gary’s shot-making way more than we realized.

Yes

[yb90]

Honestly, I think the lost 8s more on Giannis' defense than anything else. He can play better defense than what he was playing and needs to do better playing perimeter players coming off of screens. If Sims can slide his puppies then there are no excuses for Giannis not doing the same thing.

[paulpressey25]

but maybe he could use some college games first.

Is that too much to ask? That a new color guy actually work a couple years of college games. Heck Marques paid his dues out in the PAC 10 for years.

[chonestown]

Understand people are reflexively glad no Novak.But Wes sucked. He’s got to work a chunk of UW Green Bay games first. His ‘best’ line was when he talked about when he played ‘there’ referring to playing for Milwaukee. Uh no, you’re ‘here’ tonight in Milwaukee.

And what’s the deal with allowing Lisa to take all this time off for college games during the weekends? And then you do Lisa Byington ‘hat night’ on a night Lisa isn’t even around?

Sorry, I got no takes on the game other than Orlando hit some tough shots down the stretch.

And why don't they make the whole plane out of the black box.

7 pages after a loss you oughta be a shamed of yourselfs

[paulpressey25]

Thought Wes was fantastic for his first go at it. Would easily take him over both Novak and Lisa right this second.

I also thought it was a promising debut but even accounting for the fact that people's opinions on commentators are extremely subjective, just saying he "sucked" to me is bottom of the barrel level discourse.

You guys are all suffering from Stockholm Syndrome due to Lisa and Novak.

We're a top ten NBA franchise. We can afford experienced and good play by play and color commentators.

[JayMKE]

Wes was okay, he was less grating than Novak who has been doing it for years.

Broadcast is going to be be ugly once Marques is gone, it’s been kinda ugly since Paschke retired honestly.

[Turk Nowitzki]

Thought Wes was fantastic for his first go at it. Would easily take him over both Novak and Lisa right this second.

I also thought it was a promising debut but even accounting for the fact that people's opinions on commentators are extremely subjective, just saying he "sucked" to me is bottom of the barrel level discourse.

You guys are all suffering from Stockholm Syndrome due to Lisa and Novak.

We're a top ten NBA franchise. We can afford experienced and good play by play and color commentators.

Doubling down on a bad take is one way to go, that's for sure. I'm not even saying he was amazing or anything, just think it's beneath you to paint with such a broad brush so quickly.

[Bernman]

Marques is the Middleton of commentators. Outstanding, but only available half the time.

Game commentators also receive 10* focus they should. They're not an essential part of the game. You can paint your own picture.

[ShootingtheJ]

You Dame agenda dudes are absolutely deranged lol.

Deranged is ignoring an entire seasons worth of data. The Bucks have been awful defensively all season with Dame on the floor, and phenomenal defensively when Dame sits. Last night, the Bucks were absolutely lambasted when Dame was on the floor.

Dame needs his minutes cut, to try to be more competitive in his minutes.

Also, neither idea is deranged. It's just a discussion, a thought experiment.

[chonestown]

Marques is the Middleton of commentators. Outstanding, but only available half the time.

Game commentators also receive 10* focus they should. They're not an essential part of the game. You can paint your own picture.

Agree with the first part, disagree with the second.

You can cook without spices or drive without music, but boy, do they sure enhance each experience.

Can also make each experience worse AND YES I AM TALKING ABOUT KEVIN HARLAN WHY DO U ASK

[msiris]

It was so odd. There were 25 seconds left when we inbounded. It's not like we were going for a 2 for 1. Calling a play for Green was fine but when defended like that Green can't take that shot. But he did.

Dames last shot was defended just as well.

Not apples to apples. 6 seconds when Dame got the ball. There had been no timeout, no play called. vs. 25 seconds left when inbounded. Coming out of a timeout when a play was called. A play that had other options if Green didn't have the shot. Lots of time but he shot it anyway. Green can be good when he has an open shot. He's rarely good when having to create his own shot.

Agree there. He can't get any separation from a defender. Wide open sure. The problem is Giannis should have the ball in that situation but since he kind of sucks with fts and Dame is not so clutch with 3s. Rather have him drive and shoot and maybe get fouled or dish for an open look.

[Packbuckman]

We were down 2 Giannis needs to have the ball there and I have been saying I like AJ but he just can’t get his his own shot like Trent can do. Trent would be my choice as the starting sg when he is healthy.

[Ron Swanson]

You Dame agenda dudes are absolutely deranged lol.

Deranged is ignoring an entire seasons worth of data. The Bucks have been awful defensively all season with Dame on the floor, and phenomenal defensively when Dame sits. Last night, the Bucks were absolutely lambasted when Dame was on the floor.

Dame needs his minutes cut, to try to be more competitive in his minutes.

Also, neither idea is deranged. It's just a discussion, a thought experiment.

Dame’s so bad at defense that we somehow have the 2nd best clutch defense in the NBA when he’s played in pretty much every second of that sample size lol. #Deranged

[ShootingtheJ]

Deranged is ignoring an entire seasons worth of data. The Bucks have been awful defensively all season with Dame on the floor, and phenomenal defensively when Dame sits. Last night, the Bucks were absolutely lambasted when Dame was on the floor.

Dame needs his minutes cut, to try to be more competitive in his minutes.

Also, neither idea is deranged. It's just a discussion, a thought experiment.

Dame’s so bad at defense that we somehow have the 2nd best clutch defense in the NBA when he’s played in pretty much every second of that sample size lol. #Deranged

Thanks for showing how phenomenal Giannis is, while ignoring the 1st 43 minutes of the game

[BigO]

Let’s be real, this is a 1st or 2nd round exit team and we’re going to have to blow this **** up in a few months again. No point splitting hairs about roleplayers, they’re not moving the needle enough either way. Hopefully Giannis is chill.

Your take may sound extreme to some, but I think you're right. There isn't a big three anymore and that's the problem.

1) Kuzma is not a third wheel. He can do some good things, but the euphoria over him is ridiculous. He will have big games, but not a difference maker.

2) Green has proven to me that he needs another year if he's going to make it.

3) Three of the starting five aren't reliable scorers. This can't be a starting lineup in the playoffs. Please Doc. Now is the time to start KPJ and see what he can do. I realize he's a ball dominant guard, but work it out.

[Ron Swanson]

If your entire argument is that “the defense craters” every time Dame’s in the game and the actual most important time of the game shows that’s complete Bull ****, then buddy, you ain’t got a “data driven” argument.