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Re: PG Washington: Giannis makes Wizards disappear 

Post#121 » by tedbrogen » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:59 pm

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BucksFanSD wrote:If KPJ doesn't get hurt and Khris treated this like a regular game I think we would've won by 25. The media and Vegas is sleeping on this team.


Let them sleep. Flying under the radar will do wonders for this team. They still have to stick to the up-tempo concepts and sharing the ball.


I do like that someone in the organization noticed the Pacers getting tons of easy buckets the past couple seasons simply by playing fast and finally started doing so. It’s perfect for when GA is on the floor because it makes it harder to build a wall and it’s perfect when he is off because it steals some easy baskets when normally it might be difficult to score without your only superstar out there.
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Re: PG Washington: Giannis makes Wizards disappear 

Post#122 » by CharityStripe34 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 8:32 pm

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BucksFanSD wrote:If KPJ doesn't get hurt and Khris treated this like a regular game I think we would've won by 25. The media and Vegas is sleeping on this team.


Let them sleep. Flying under the radar will do wonders for this team. They still have to stick to the up-tempo concepts and sharing the ball.


I do like that someone in the organization noticed the Pacers getting tons of easy buckets the past couple seasons simply by playing fast and finally started doing so. It’s perfect for when GA is on the floor because it makes it harder to build a wall and it’s perfect when he is off because it steals some easy baskets when normally it might be difficult to score without your only superstar out there.


Even semi-transition with all the shooting around Giannis it helps the halfcourt offense look much more fluid. Literally every time he touches the ball in the post or at the nail the defense shades or outright doubles leaving someone open.
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Re: PG Washington: Giannis makes Wizards disappear 

Post#123 » by drone3 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 8:40 pm

Small detail here. Dairys pass at end of 2nd to GTJ was smooth. Dairy is more than a shooter he got vision and adding passing to his game unlocks free shots
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Re: PG Washington: Giannis makes Wizards disappear 

Post#124 » by Vasquectomy » Thu Oct 23, 2025 8:44 pm

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Re: PG Washington: Giannis makes Wizards disappear 

Post#125 » by Balls2TheWalls » Thu Oct 23, 2025 8:59 pm

Kuzma shut me up in the 2nd half. If he can be a slasher and someone who can get to the rim in the 2 man game (and eschew ever being someone who wants to shoot a 3, no matter how open he is), then he can be a benefit to our team off of the bench. He and Cole Anthony were surprisingly good in the pick and roll.

KPJ going out hurt stinks. We look different with him playing.
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Post#126 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:05 pm

I'm legitimately stunned every time Kuzma throws up a shot and it goes in. Dude has zero touch on anything that isn't a layup or dunk, so it's still wild to me that he ever averaged 20+ PPG on a real NBA team.
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Post#127 » by Shaffty » Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:22 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I'm legitimately stunned every time Kuzma throws up a shot and it goes in. Dude has zero touch on anything that isn't a layup or dunk, so it's still wild to me that he ever averaged 20+ PPG on a real NBA team.


Career ppg average of 17!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#128 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:26 pm

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No contender is sending the salary and asset needed to make it worth it to the Wiz. He’s getting bought out. Tax teams can’t sign him. Name the list of contenders allowed to sign Midds please.

He’ll be back with the Bucks in mid-February.


I hope your right, but the Spurs could send the expiring contracts of Barnes and Olynyk, and some 2nds, and land a proven playoff assassin who's also a terrific veteran leader.


Why would the Spurs make a move for another guy whose contract is expiring when they could package Barnes, Olynyk, and Vassell with picks for a younger player?

But it is funny that this started with someone claiming the Wiz will get a protected first for Midds and that has already walked back to some seconds.


I wasnt there one who claimed a protected 1st.

Why would the Spurs do it? Simple, they'd get a really good player without giving much up.
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Post#129 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:32 pm

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ShootingtheJ wrote:Funny how some had thought Middleton was at the end. He looks 5 years younger. 2nd best player on the floor tonight


Yes, but we have Kuzma.


We also have Myles Turner and no $100 million in luxury tax payments and aprons.

If he gets bought out one year from the trade date can we re-sign him?


It's important to note that there Middleton trade had very little impact on getting Turner. Cutting and stretching Dame, a long with letting Brook's ridiculous contract expire were the 2 moves that opened the most money. We also traded Patty C with 2 -2nds to clear another $8 million.
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Re: PG Washington: Giannis makes Wizards disappear 

Post#130 » by Shaffty » Thu Oct 23, 2025 10:39 pm

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Yes, but we have Kuzma.


We also have Myles Turner and no $100 million in luxury tax payments and aprons.

If he gets bought out one year from the trade date can we re-sign him?


It's important to note that there Middleton trade had very little impact on getting Turner. Cutting and stretching Dame, a long with letting Brook's ridiculous contract expire were the 2 moves that opened the most money. We also traded Patty C with 2 -2nds to clear another $8 million.



you couldn't have done that with dame if you did not get out of the 2nd apron with the khris move.
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Post#131 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:00 pm

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We also have Myles Turner and no $100 million in luxury tax payments and aprons.

If he gets bought out one year from the trade date can we re-sign him?


It's important to note that there Middleton trade had very little impact on getting Turner. Cutting and stretching Dame, a long with letting Brook's ridiculous contract expire were the 2 moves that opened the most money. We also traded Patty C with 2 -2nds to clear another $8 million.



you couldn't have done that with dame if you did not get out of the 2nd apron with the khris move.



When the league year reset, we could have done any of the things we did. We juat would have needed to clear a little more money.

Now, if we had dealt Dame at the deadline, we likely would have also moved below the 2nd apron, we wouldn't have $104 million in dead money, and we wouldn't have been saddled with Kuzma.
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Re: PG Washington: Giannis makes Wizards disappear 

Post#132 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Oct 24, 2025 12:39 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:Khris played very good defense last night.
The last 5 minutes of the 1st half we destroyed him.. he was basically just standing there.

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Nope, this did not happen.

In the final 6 minutes, Khris spent the 1st 3 minutes guarding Giannis. Giannis attempted to drive 3 times. Mids stripped him the 1st time, stonewalled him the 2nd time, and took a charge the 3rd time. Giannis then left the game with his 3rd foul.

When you said Middleton was just standing there, were you talking about when he was taking the charge?

After Giannis left, the Bucks scored only 2 FGs the rest of the half, both 3s by Trent. Middleton was guarding Rollins and Kuzma for this stretch.
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Re: PG Washington: Giannis makes Wizards disappear 

Post#133 » by tedbrogen » Fri Oct 24, 2025 12:46 am

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Yes, but we have Kuzma.


We also have Myles Turner and no $100 million in luxury tax payments and aprons.

If he gets bought out one year from the trade date can we re-sign him?


It's important to note that there Middleton trade had very little impact on getting Turner. Cutting and stretching Dame, a long with letting Brook's ridiculous contract expire were the 2 moves that opened the most money. We also traded Patty C with 2 -2nds to clear another $8 million.


And all that plus the $10M saved on the difference between Midds salary and Kuz salary was BARELY enough to sign Turner.
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Re: PG Washington: Giannis makes Wizards disappear 

Post#134 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:04 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:Khris played very good defense last night.
The last 5 minutes of the 1st half we destroyed him.. he was basically just standing there.

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Nope, this did not happen.

In the final 6 minutes, Khris spent the 1st 3 minutes guarding Giannis. Giannis attempted to drive 3 times. Mids stripped him the 1st time, stonewalled him the 2nd time, and took a charge the 3rd time. Giannis then left the game with his 3rd foul.

When you said Middleton was just standing there, were you talking about when he was taking the charge?

After Giannis left, the Bucks scored only 2 FGs the rest of the half, both 3s by Trent. Middleton was guarding Rollins and Kuzma for this stretch.


I was in favor of the trade but making stuff up to try to prove Khris is washed is just weird. We'll see how the season plays out for him and how durable he is but last night he was very good in both ends of the court.
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Post#135 » by -Jragon- » Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:10 am

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BigO wrote:Takeaways:

1) Bucks will be good if KPJ duplicates what he did last night. If not, Bucks won't be a contender. He's that important.

2) I don't get playing BP at center. He isn't a rim protector and he's actually pretty good guarding one on one out on the floor. If Doc is going to rest Turner and Giannis at the same time (I'd try and minimize that), then I'd give Sims some play.

3) Doc went at least twice in a row to BP post-ups. I don't have a problem with that, especially if BP is hitting his shots (he wasn't). I'd like to see BP not settle for fadeaways, but attack the basket more. If he's going to take twos, get closer to the basket.

4) Rebounding was once again a problem, getting outrebounded by 10.

5) If you can guarantee that Kuzma doesn't take any threes, he's serviceable. The fact that the opposition can and should leave him alone to shoot is still a problem.

6) Doc took Turner out during the stretch run and went with BP. I wonder what he was thinking.


Assuming last season was an aberration, Kuzma is just okay enough shooting the ball that I can live with the open, stand still ones. It's the contested, off the dribble 3's that he fell in love with in Washington that are just completely unnecessary. He's a fairly versatile player; he just tends to not use those skills in the ways that you actually want lol.


Yeah, exactly this. He should be shooting threes that are wide open. Not the other crap. Just focus on what his positives are and defer on everything else. He's got the firepower around him in his teammates
Meh... Kuz can take 2 open threes per game ... make 1 and you get another.. make 2 you get 2 more. Other than that pump fake and attack or catch on cuts

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Post#136 » by -Jragon- » Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:16 am

Balls2TheWalls wrote:Kuzma shut me up in the 2nd half. If he can be a slasher and someone who can get to the rim in the 2 man game (and eschew ever being someone who wants to shoot a 3, no matter how open he is), then he can be a benefit to our team off of the bench. He and Cole Anthony were surprisingly good in the pick and roll.

KPJ going out hurt stinks. We look different with him playing.
Right.. the main thing we need to avoid is the 1 - 7 or 0 - 5 bs.. hopefully that left when Pat C, Donte and Brook left.

Kuz, or anyone we have, shooting an open 3 here and there isn't the major problem. The major problem is thinking after you are 0 - 2 you should shoot yourself hot (to prove your worth? Stats? Idk why they did this) -- early in the clock no less

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Post#137 » by -Jragon- » Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:18 am

Ron Swanson wrote:I'm legitimately stunned every time Kuzma throws up a shot and it goes in. Dude has zero touch on anything that isn't a layup or dunk, so it's still wild to me that he ever averaged 20+ PPG on a real NBA team.
That's interesting.. I actually thought he had great touch a few years ago... I hypothesize he saw how much money you can make in the league if you body build like Bron and last 15+ years.. weights can throw off touch unless you work really hard to not let it.

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Post#138 » by tedbrogen » Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:21 am

Ron Swanson wrote:I'm legitimately stunned every time Kuzma throws up a shot and it goes in. Dude has zero touch on anything that isn't a layup or dunk, so it's still wild to me that he ever averaged 20+ PPG on a real NBA team.


He doesn’t even have touch on layups and rarely actually dunks.
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Post#139 » by -Jragon- » Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:24 am

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-Jragon- wrote:The last 5 minutes of the 1st half we destroyed him.. he was basically just standing there.

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Nope, this did not happen.

In the final 6 minutes, Khris spent the 1st 3 minutes guarding Giannis. Giannis attempted to drive 3 times. Mids stripped him the 1st time, stonewalled him the 2nd time, and took a charge the 3rd time. Giannis then left the game with his 3rd foul.

When you said Middleton was just standing there, were you talking about when he was taking the charge?

After Giannis left, the Bucks scored only 2 FGs the rest of the half, both 3s by Trent. Middleton was guarding Rollins and Kuzma for this stretch.


I was in favor of the trade but making stuff up to try to prove Khris is washed is just weird. We'll see how the season plays out for him and how durable he is but last night he was very good in both ends of the court.
2nd qtr 4:39 left, 2nd quarter 4:00 left

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Post#140 » by Prez » Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:34 am

-Jragon- wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:

Nope, this did not happen.

In the final 6 minutes, Khris spent the 1st 3 minutes guarding Giannis. Giannis attempted to drive 3 times. Mids stripped him the 1st time, stonewalled him the 2nd time, and took a charge the 3rd time. Giannis then left the game with his 3rd foul.

When you said Middleton was just standing there, were you talking about when he was taking the charge?

After Giannis left, the Bucks scored only 2 FGs the rest of the half, both 3s by Trent. Middleton was guarding Rollins and Kuzma for this stretch.


I was in favor of the trade but making stuff up to try to prove Khris is washed is just weird. We'll see how the season plays out for him and how durable he is but last night he was very good in both ends of the court.
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The first one is the Bucks in transition where Khris stops Rollins (ball handler) so Rollins dishes it to a full speed Giannis trailing behind him. The 2nd was him getting a deflection on Rollins in the paint but Giannis retrieving it 3 feet from the basket and scoring over a contest. If those are the examples you have you have nothing lmao. Your agenda is beyond sad at this point.

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