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Post#1201 » by StickeeFingaz » Tue May 18, 2021 4:39 pm

I’m hoping those images were captured while the shoe was still in the sample stage.
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Post#1202 » by jute2003 » Tue May 18, 2021 4:45 pm

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Post#1203 » by VooDoo7 » Tue May 18, 2021 5:03 pm

The color isn't even the worst part. It's the entire design of the shoe. So 'clunky'-looking.
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Post#1204 » by Ron Swanson » Tue May 18, 2021 6:45 pm

Yeah.....those are gross.
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Post#1205 » by SupremeHustle » Tue May 18, 2021 6:50 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:The color isn't even the worst part. It's the entire design of the shoe. So 'clunky'-looking.


Seems like that style is coming back. LeBron's shoes have been like that for years as well.
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Post#1206 » by VooDoo7 » Tue May 18, 2021 7:06 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:The color isn't even the worst part. It's the entire design of the shoe. So 'clunky'-looking.


Seems like that style is coming back. LeBron's shoes have been like that for years as well.

I guess it's time to bust out and dust off my Reebok Pumps, then.
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Post#1207 » by chonestown » Tue May 18, 2021 7:17 pm

Worth mentioning that Giannis shot 68.5% from the free throw line. Rounding up, the succession rate is 69%.
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Post#1208 » by FrieAaron » Tue May 18, 2021 7:34 pm

chonestown wrote:Worth mentioning that Giannis shot 68.5% from the free throw line. Rounding up, the succession rate is 69%.


I think we can all agree that's pretty nice.
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Post#1209 » by chonestown » Tue May 18, 2021 7:57 pm

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chonestown wrote:Worth mentioning that Giannis shot 68.5% from the free throw line. Rounding up, the succession rate is 69%.


I think we can all agree that's pretty nice.


People have been saying that.
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Post#1210 » by HKPackFan » Thu May 20, 2021 1:46 pm

chonestown wrote:
FrieAaron wrote:
chonestown wrote:Worth mentioning that Giannis shot 68.5% from the free throw line. Rounding up, the succession rate is 69%.


I think we can all agree that's pretty nice.


People have been saying that.



Ya that rings a bell.
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Post#1211 » by coolhandluke121 » Thu May 20, 2021 2:16 pm

emunney wrote:What I've seen from Giannis this year is a lot more patience going to the rim, a lot more variation in footwork on drives (making him harder to guess, thus fewer charges despite the fact that everybody now tries to set up a wall and everybody literally throws themselves in front of him), some occasional fakes (need many more), a higher all around skill level (particularly his ball handling), and increased willingness and improved competence playing off the ball offensively. Late in the season we saw the reemergence of the post fadeaway that I thought was going to be the key to us winning the title last year, and then it never showed up in the bubble.

He's making the type of progress he needs to make, we'll see if it's enough to carry us home this year.


Yeah, I agree on all of this. He looks a lot more comfortable shooting that fadeaway than any other type of jumper. Something about jumping backwards allows him to put a softer touch on the shot. I doubt his numbers are objectively good on that shot, but I bet they're totally acceptable and he rarely has an attempt that looks truly awful, like he often does on basically any other type of outside shot including ft's.

He doesn't over-commit to getting all the way to the rim as often as he did in previous seasons. He used to basically wait until he was practically falling over before he would give up on trying to get an easy attempt at the rim and kick it out, which resulted in terrible kick-out passes. It seems he's recognizing that a pass should often be his plan A against the defenses he's facing. He was terrible at this early in the season but it seemed like he bottomed out completely after about 10 games and then came out with a renewed commitment to playing unselfishly.

In his last game, he did something I really liked that I've hardly ever seen from him. When he was moving around the space defenses give him on the perimeter, he would hand the ball off or make a short pass to a teammate and keep moving full-speed as if he were expecting to get the ball right back on a dive to the basket or something like that. He has a tendency to just kind of float when he gives up the ball, so it was great to see him force defenders to fear him and maintain the wall even when he didn't have the ball. It turns that soft spot in the wall defense into a space the defense has to worry about more because he can use it to get a running start on an off-ball cut. This gives his teammates a little extra time and space to operate.

All that said, for players with a history of questionable poise and decision-making, it's not uncommon to regress under pressure situations. I will never be ready to bet on him putting the doubts to rest and dominating a solid defensive team in the playoffs until I actually see it.
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Re: Giannis SIGNS 

Post#1212 » by emunney » Thu May 20, 2021 4:02 pm

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emunney wrote:What I've seen from Giannis this year is a lot more patience going to the rim, a lot more variation in footwork on drives (making him harder to guess, thus fewer charges despite the fact that everybody now tries to set up a wall and everybody literally throws themselves in front of him), some occasional fakes (need many more), a higher all around skill level (particularly his ball handling), and increased willingness and improved competence playing off the ball offensively. Late in the season we saw the reemergence of the post fadeaway that I thought was going to be the key to us winning the title last year, and then it never showed up in the bubble.

He's making the type of progress he needs to make, we'll see if it's enough to carry us home this year.


Yeah, I agree on all of this. He looks a lot more comfortable shooting that fadeaway than any other type of jumper. Something about jumping backwards allows him to put a softer touch on the shot. I doubt his numbers are objectively good on that shot, but I bet they're totally acceptable and he rarely has an attempt that looks truly awful, like he often does on basically any other type of outside shot including ft's.

He doesn't over-commit to getting all the way to the rim as often as he did in previous seasons. He used to basically wait until he was practically falling over before he would give up on trying to get an easy attempt at the rim and kick it out, which resulted in terrible kick-out passes. It seems he's recognizing that a pass should often be his plan A against the defenses he's facing. He was terrible at this early in the season but it seemed like he bottomed out completely after about 10 games and then came out with a renewed commitment to playing unselfishly.

In his last game, he did something I really liked that I've hardly ever seen from him. When he was moving around the space defenses give him on the perimeter, he would hand the ball off or make a short pass to a teammate and keep moving full-speed as if he were expecting to get the ball right back on a dive to the basket or something like that. He has a tendency to just kind of float when he gives up the ball, so it was great to see him force defenders to fear him and maintain the wall even when he didn't have the ball. It turns that soft spot in the wall defense into a space the defense has to worry about more because he can use it to get a running start on an off-ball cut. This gives his teammates a little extra time and space to operate.

All that said, for players with a history of questionable poise and decision-making, it's not uncommon to regress under pressure situations. I will never be ready to bet on him putting the doubts to rest and dominating a solid defensive team in the playoffs until I actually see it.


Yeah you talked about something really important, which is really using his influence off ball in different ways. Sometimes he might want to wait until his man turns his head to make a hard cut toward the rim like Wade, but he doesn't need to wait for that and he should know the amount of pressure it exerts for him to just be near the basket or move there with apparent purpose. We got all these shooters to balance the floor for us but they don't exist strictly for his kick outs. Many ways to create and exploit that tension. And just theoretically it's better for him to suck the defense inside if the ball is still outside.
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Post#1213 » by Ruben Quevedo » Thu May 20, 2021 4:28 pm

I really like when he gets to the paint, bumps his man, and then hits the stepback/fadeaway from about 12 feet. That's the real estate he needs to command, because the kickout options there are plentiful. The pure fadeaway from the baseline is a much lower percentage shot and it doesn't really stress the defense in any way.
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Post#1214 » by CharityStripe34 » Fri May 21, 2021 1:35 am

Ruben Quevedo wrote:I really like when he gets to the paint, bumps his man, and then hits the stepback/fadeaway from about 12 feet. That's the real estate he needs to command, because the kickout options there are plentiful. The pure fadeaway from the baseline is a much lower percentage shot and it doesn't really stress the defense in any way.


Especially when defenses tend to panic when he starts posting up from about 12-14 feet, given that he's essentially a step/reach away from a 75% shot. Can't set up a wall when he's already halfway to the rim without touching the ball.
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Post#1215 » by Ill-yasova » Fri May 21, 2021 12:54 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
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VooDoo7 wrote:The color isn't even the worst part. It's the entire design of the shoe. So 'clunky'-looking.


Seems like that style is coming back. LeBron's shoes have been like that for years as well.

I guess it's time to bust out and dust off my Reebok Pumps, then.

I’m going to ask my dad to check the attic for my Shaqnosis pair so I can be cool again.
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Post#1216 » by Matches Malone » Sat May 29, 2021 3:26 pm

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Post#1217 » by 4xBuck » Sat May 29, 2021 4:07 pm

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Post#1219 » by 4xBuck » Sat May 29, 2021 7:51 pm

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Post#1220 » by hakjak » Tue Jun 8, 2021 2:07 am

Is Giannis proving himself to be at best a 2 on a championship team or do you still have faith that he can be the top player?
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