Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Nwora in protocols

[emunney]

I wonder if the Bucks have lit a fire under the players at the end of the bench. They've kind of shown that the worst performers are going to be let go. First Robinson and now Georgios. Who do you think is the next to get the axe when the Bucks pull off their next upgrade? Javonte is playing like his life depends on it.

Semi or hood probably feeling a little bit of pressure.

Could see us trading Nwora for a 2nd or two before we sign Darius Miller.

[jakecronus8]

I wonder if the Bucks have lit a fire under the players at the end of the bench. They've kind of shown that the worst performers are going to be let go. First Robinson and now Georgios. Who do you think is the next to get the axe when the Bucks pull off their next upgrade? Javonte is playing like his life depends on it.

Semi or hood probably feeling a little bit of pressure.

Could see us trading Nwora for a 2nd or two before we sign Darius Miller.

If something bigger wasn’t available where we could package Donte with him I’d be cool with this. They need to restock that cupboard

[ShootingtheJ]

Semi or hood probably feeling a little bit of pressure.

Could see us trading Nwora for a 2nd or two before we sign Darius Miller.

If something bigger wasn’t available where we could package Donte with him I’d be cool with this. They need to restock that cupboard

If Nwora is dealt, it's to get the forward we need, not to just add a 2nd round pick to the cupboard.

[raferfenix]

It's really this more than it's anything else. They don't owe me anything, buy they owe Giannis a lot more than the CBA permits them to pay him, and one way to begin to make good on that is to field the strongest possible roster.

I’m both livid about the decision to cheap out on Tucker but also hopeful that Horst can pull another rabbit out of his hat — provided ownership let’s him spend the money.

The Grayson Allen trade and extension are looking like strokes of genius in particular.

We might need another midseason move at least as good as the PJ acquisition last year. Losing Lopez in addition to Tucker is just so much defense to lose.

[ShootingtheJ]

It's really this more than it's anything else. They don't owe me anything, buy they owe Giannis a lot more than the CBA permits them to pay him, and one way to begin to make good on that is to field the strongest possible roster.

I’m both livid about the decision to cheap out on Tucker but also hopeful that Horst can pull another rabbit out of his hat — provided ownership let’s him spend the money.

The Grayson Allen trade and extension are looking like strokes of genius in particular.

We might need another midseason move at least as good as the PJ acquisition last year. Losing Lopez in addition to Tucker is just so much defense to lose.

Did you guys watch the game last night? Tucker is terrible. He can't defend anyone. Jrue went off in the first quarter. Why? He had Tucker on him.

Ownership was cheap because they have never bought a pick. Not bringing back Tucker? Simply a basketball decision because he's a scrub.

[rilamann]

It's really this more than it's anything else. They don't owe me anything, buy they owe Giannis a lot more than the CBA permits them to pay him, and one way to begin to make good on that is to field the strongest possible roster.

I’m both livid about the decision to cheap out on Tucker but also hopeful that Horst can pull another rabbit out of his hat — provided ownership let’s him spend the money.

The Grayson Allen trade and extension are looking like strokes of genius in particular.

We might need another midseason move at least as good as the PJ acquisition last year. Losing Lopez in addition to Tucker is just so much defense to lose.

Did you guys watch the game last night? Tucker is terrible. He can't defend anyone. Jrue went off in the first quarter. Why? He had Tucker on him.

Ownership was cheap because they have never bought a pick. Not bringing back Tucker? Simply a basketball decision because he's a scrub.

I love Tucker and I put a lot of value on the intangible stuff he brings to the table.

That said, watching Tucker last night made me feel a little better about us not keeping him around. You're right, looks like a bit washed compared to how he looked for us just a few months ago. I would still take Tucker on the Bucks if it was up to me.

But I am also aware that the Buck's front office and ownership might very well come out looking a lot smarter than a lot of us 6 months from now in regards to Tucker.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

tuckers done. he was a salary slot for trade maybe but thats it.

to me.... this team is going to cost a massive fortune to maintain over the next 2-3 years. portis, ddv, pat c, whoever else on mles.... each and every year theres gonna be the guys we need to pay and the guys that need to go. thats how any team operates. just moving past tucker on to allen last year was a no brainer in alot of ways. no regrets

[HKPackFan]

Love Tucker but he didn't look good at all.... He also didn't look great in the regular season with us last season.

But I felt he looked even worse last night.


I don't think tucker gives you anything much in the regular season, maybe in the playoffs he's still got something in the tank. He could still be a contributor.

I don't think it's an easy call to hold a spot and pushing up that cap for a very subpar regular season guy, who's only going to give you a spark in the playoffs.

I think Horst and company are banking on finding another ring chaser in the buyout market or during the trade deadline.

Tucker really did turn out to be the Andre rison final piece like those 96 Packers and ended pretty much the same way.

[WRau1]

If Lopez is done for the season, it would be pretty sweet to get a DPE for $6.6mil then be able to use him as an expiring next year.

[JayMKE]

Tucker’s value isn’t during the game and seems like most ppl that wanted to keep him think his contract could be dumped for some other sort of asset even tho Tucker only has value/would be willing to only play for a select few teams without being a malcontent. Not worth losing sleep over, we got better cheaper cheerleaders.

[old skool]

I trust that the FO made the right decision on Tucker. At his age he was likely not going to be able to contribute during the regular season and still be able to contribute in the playoffs. I think that he and Lowry are both going to have a tough time playing heavy minutes at their age, creating challenges for Miami. We fans might not have been able to predict that, but the Bucks had a chance to observe PJ's body for months. If he stays healthy and productive, good for him. I think the Bucks saw better options.

[blazza18]

I trust that the FO made the right decision on Tucker. At his age he was likely not going to be able to contribute during the regular season and still be able to contribute in the playoffs. I think that he and Lowry are both going to have a tough time playing heavy minutes at their age, creating challenges for Miami. We fans might not have been able to predict that, but the Bucks had a chance to observe PJ's body for months. If he stays healthy and productive, good for him. I think the Bucks saw better options.

Given how Horst was talking about PJ before free agency letting him leave wasn't up to him at all.

[AussieBuck]

tuckers done. he was a salary slot for trade maybe but thats it.

to me.... this team is going to cost a massive fortune to maintain over the next 2-3 years. portis, ddv, pat c, whoever else on mles.... each and every year theres gonna be the guys we need to pay and the guys that need to go. thats how any team operates. just moving past tucker on to allen last year was a no brainer in alot of ways. no regrets

Bobby's taking that Lopez salary next season, reckon Brook's going out for an expiring. Probably won't pay Donte either but I'd at least keep him through the playoffs. Looks like we'll be at nearly $150 million next season with Jrue, Allen, Mids, Bobby, Giannis, Pat, Hill and Thanasis. Fill that out with minimum guys and you're around $160 million. Billionaires aren't paying more than that.

[Baddy Chuck]

I think the Bucks saw better options.

Like what? Semi? Hood? Thanasis? Nwora? This is my biggest bone of contention with the PJ stuff. People keep saying that the Bucks were looking forward when they literally had nothing to look forward to. Our only option with letting PJ Tucker go was replacing him with just significantly worse players from the get go(*) and so far this season, the ever illuminating one game samples aside, PJ has been a legitimately good player for Miami much like he was for us during our CHAMPIONSHIP RUN while the guys who were begging for minimum contracts to be blunt, suck (which was to be expected). "Better options" is simply such an insane cop out for them. If the goal was winning basketball games, far and away the best option for them was signing PJ Tucker. They knew that. You know that. Everyone outside of the one person in the world who thought Semi Ojeleye was an upgrade knows that (even he deep down probably does). It was a money play. Nothing more. Nothing less. If you can sympathize with the B's over the play then go for it but there's no need to spin it as anything else.

*I guess I'll add if they wanted to go the route of like completely unproven swing for the fences type guys you could make an argument they were trying to improve the team in some way.

[DrWood]

In regard to Semi, it's possible he improves, but doubtful. He has never had the positive impact on a team that PJ has, both in Houston and here. PJ was a necessity last season. They don't win it without him.

His value was both on and off the court.
Not saying they should have signed him at the price, because each season has its own dynamics. But he was critical last season.

If DDV wasn't injured, PJ would have hardly played and the bucks would have been even better.

If DDV doesnt get hurt i think its a safe bet that PJ tucker isnt even on the bucks

PJ was acquired before DDV went down.

[DrWood]

It's really this more than it's anything else. They don't owe me anything, buy they owe Giannis a lot more than the CBA permits them to pay him, and one way to begin to make good on that is to field the strongest possible roster.

I’m both livid about the decision to cheap out on Tucker but also hopeful that Horst can pull another rabbit out of his hat — provided ownership let’s him spend the money.

The Grayson Allen trade and extension are looking like strokes of genius in particular.

We might need another midseason move at least as good as the PJ acquisition last year. Losing Lopez in addition to Tucker is just so much defense to lose.

Did you guys watch the game last night? Tucker is terrible. He can't defend anyone. Jrue went off in the first quarter. Why? He had Tucker on him.

Ownership was cheap because they have never bought a pick. Not bringing back Tucker? Simply a basketball decision because he's a scrub.

slightly overstated, but I agree in principle.

[Baddy Chuck]

New previously unreleased data on "PJ is a scrub" has been unearthed and it's damning!



One game samples are sick and all though.

[WRau1]

Yeah, teams sign 36yr old 10th men for 2yrs $14mil all the time. How dare the Bucks not do that.

[TroyD92]

Yeah, teams sign 36yr old 10th men for 2yrs $14mil all the time. How dare the Bucks not do that.

Except he was a starter on a championship team, but go off I guess

[WRau1]

Yeah, teams sign 36yr old 10th men for 2yrs $14mil all the time. How dare the Bucks not do that.

Except he was a starter on a championship team, but go off I guess

Due to injury but go off I guess.