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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks - Edens and Haslem 

Post#1201 » by GoldenAntlers » Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:57 pm

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Will Dame be there or is it gonna be Bango and Thanos on a trampoline?


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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks - Edens and Haslem "aggressive" to get deal done - page 42 

Post#1202 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:59 pm

soxperry wrote:Also, not many people talking about the Dame/Brook two man game. Brook is so good on those lobs and hes never had a good passer outside of Joe Ingles and Khris when hes on. Hes used to cleaning up garbage.

Another thought: now that we have all this offense, do we move Bobby for some defense if Marjon aint ready?


I'm actually much less motivated to move Bobby now that Dame is in the fold. You raise an intriguing hypothetical though. I think there's a lot of excitement and hope that Marjon is gonna grab the other starting wing spot by the horns, but it's still awfully ambitious to assume an NBA sophomore is gonna jump in and be a reliable, 16-game playoff guy.

I think if no one really separates themselves between Beasley, Marjon, and AJJ, then it's still imperative that you get another playable 3&D wing somehow. I posited the idea of something like Bobby + minimum contract for Dorian Finney-Smith, but hopefully you can find that guy cheaper while still keeping Bobby as a luxury player asset.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks - Edens and Haslem "aggressive" to get deal done - page 42 

Post#1203 » by Prez » Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:59 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:Hope to see lots of Giannis at the 5 spamming PNR with Dame

I’m unreasonably optimistic that Crowder will have a resurgent season. In that case Dame/Pat/Khris/Crowder/Giannis will blow the doors off teams. If I get to be extra unreasonable, one or both of MarJon/Dre are ready to be real contributors and they could be part of that lineup as well.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks - Edens and Haslem "aggressive" to get deal done - page 42 

Post#1204 » by soxperry » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:14 pm

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soxperry wrote:Also, not many people talking about the Dame/Brook two man game. Brook is so good on those lobs and hes never had a good passer outside of Joe Ingles and Khris when hes on. Hes used to cleaning up garbage.

Another thought: now that we have all this offense, do we move Bobby for some defense if Marjon aint ready?


I'm actually much less motivated to move Bobby now that Dame is in the fold. You raise an intriguing hypothetical though. I think there's a lot of excitement and hope that Marjon is gonna grab the other starting wing spot by the horns, but it's still awfully ambitious to assume an NBA sophomore is gonna jump in and be a reliable, 16-game playoff guy.

I think if no one really separates themselves between Beasley, Marjon, and AJJ, then it's still imperative that you get another playable 3&D wing somehow. I posited the idea of something like Bobby + minimum contract for Dorian Finney-Smith, but hopefully you can find that guy cheaper while still keeping Bobby as a luxury player asset.


I actually dont think its far fetched that Marjon, if he has it in him, can be that guy this season. Jury is still out on whether he is that guy or not. Certainly thats our best case scenario. Ive got zero faith that AJJ is going to be anything more than a guy who occasionally makes a ridiculous play but ultimately cant cut it. Beasley is just going to guide us through the reg season hitting wide open threes.

I dont really know DFS's game very well but if hes a plus defender who can hit a corner three, thats the move imo. But i like the idea of seeing what we got first, really test ourselves against the other contenders and see what needs tweaking.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks - Edens and Haslem "aggressive" to get deal done - page 42 

Post#1205 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:24 pm

Any potential buyout guys to keep an eye on this season?
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Post#1206 » by Shaffty » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:30 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Any potential buyout guys to keep an eye on this season?



remember new CBA means you cant sign guys who get bought out of salaries more then 12.5m
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Post#1207 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:31 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Any potential buyout guys to keep an eye on this season?

If he ends up part of a bigger deal, Lowry is one to watch.
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Post#1208 » by rilamann » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:33 pm

What if it comes out that Dame demanded he be traded to Milwaukee to be reunited with Pat Connaughton.
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Post#1209 » by crowhead76 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:38 pm

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soxperry wrote:Also, not many people talking about the Dame/Brook two man game. Brook is so good on those lobs and hes never had a good passer outside of Joe Ingles and Khris when hes on. Hes used to cleaning up garbage.

Another thought: now that we have all this offense, do we move Bobby for some defense if Marjon aint ready?


I'm actually much less motivated to move Bobby now that Dame is in the fold. You raise an intriguing hypothetical though. I think there's a lot of excitement and hope that Marjon is gonna grab the other starting wing spot by the horns, but it's still awfully ambitious to assume an NBA sophomore is gonna jump in and be a reliable, 16-game playoff guy.

I think if no one really separates themselves between Beasley, Marjon, and AJJ, then it's still imperative that you get another playable 3&D wing somehow. I posited the idea of something like Bobby + minimum contract for Dorian Finney-Smith, but hopefully you can find that guy cheaper while still keeping Bobby as a luxury player asset.



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Post#1210 » by raferfenix » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:40 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I'm actually much less motivated to move Bobby now that Dame is in the fold.


I'm here too. Bobby is hugely valuable as a short term backup to both Giannis and Brook while also being an easy fit as our long term starting center as Lopez declines.

Getting a wing who can play some defense who doesn't necessarily need to be able to shoot is dramatically easier.

That's especially compared to a stretch big like Bobby -- even aside from how fantastic his contract is particularly on a team like ours.
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Post#1211 » by Neuromancer56 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:42 pm

This is probably a moot point because I don't think Portland would have taken Khris for Dame, but the more I think about it, the more I wish the Bucks had traded Kris instead of Jrue. Jrue is built like a linebacker, is durable, and could cover for Dame's defensive weaknesses. Khris has an injury history, and it's a big question mark as to whether or not he's washed due to his injuries. So I think that Khris may have a slightly higher ceiling than Jrue going forward, Jrue has a much higher floor. We know what we'd have gotten from Jrue. Khris is a big question mark after all those injuries.
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Post#1212 » by soxperry » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:46 pm

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soxperry wrote:listening to this song Stargirl, the pairing of Lana Del Ray and the Weeknd reminds me of the bucks current situation. Lana Del Ray is, i'm sure, a very talented singer on her own but when you plug her that that gorgeous soundscape, and then have the weeknd rising up at the tail end to serenade us, that's just big time. that's a two trophy song, even if it's merely a short interlude.


what


oh, right, you must not be familiar with the lyrics..

Dame: i shouldn't take 30 foot jumpers, but i love it, starboyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (repeat 3 more times)

Giannis: I just want to see you shine, because i know you are my stargiiirrrlllllllll (repeat 3 more times as the music fades)

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Post#1213 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:48 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:Any potential buyout guys to keep an eye on this season?



remember new CBA means you cant sign guys who get bought out of salaries more then 12.5m


Ahh, yes. Good call.
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Post#1214 » by MVP2110 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:49 pm

Neuromancer56 wrote:This is probably a moot point because I don't think Portland would have taken Khris for Dame, but the more I think about it, the more I wish the Bucks had traded Kris instead of Jrue. Jrue is built like a linebacker, is durable, and could cover for Dame's defensive weaknesses. Khris has an injury history, and it's a big question mark as to whether or not he's washed due to his injuries. So I think that Khris may have a slightly higher ceiling than Jrue going forward, Jrue has a much higher floor. We know what we'd have gotten from Jrue. Khris is a big question mark after all those injuries.


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Post#1215 » by soxperry » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:55 pm

Neuromancer56 wrote:This is probably a moot point because I don't think Portland would have taken Khris for Dame, but the more I think about it, the more I wish the Bucks had traded Kris instead of Jrue. Jrue is built like a linebacker, is durable, and could cover for Dame's defensive weaknesses. Khris has an injury history, and it's a big question mark as to whether or not he's washed due to his injuries. So I think that Khris may have a slightly higher ceiling than Jrue going forward, Jrue has a much higher floor. We know what we'd have gotten from Jrue. Khris is a big question mark after all those injuries.


yeah, this was my original take on the situation when the reality of such a trade was merely a gleam in our eyes. Jrue as a 3rd or 4th offensive option is just fine. he's just way overcast in a robin role. Giannis/Dame/Jrue/Brook/catch and shoot guys is more than enough offense. and we would have still had Jrue's defense and big moment abilities. i wonder what combination of factors culminated in Jrue being the one instead of Khris?

Giannis refusal to trade Khris?
Blazers refusal to take Khris?
Bucks belief that Khris is now full recovered and overall more valuable than Jrue in that event?

Ah well, i'll take it either way. The pairing of Giannis and Dame now makes Milwaukee, unquestionably, a premier destination for ring chasers. We watched teams like the Clippers, Lakers and Nets just scoop up more of those kinds of guys than they actually needed and i think now those scales will tilt a bit.
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Post#1216 » by Rstuedes24 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:55 pm

How many games into the season does Dame score the franchise record points in a game?
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Post#1217 » by rilamann » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:59 pm

If I had the choice of trading Jrue or Khris for Dame, I would actually rather keep Khris.

Jrue might be the better player over Khris at this point in their careers, but I think that with Giannis and Dame, Khris is the better fit. Plus we've been wanting to Khris as the #3 guy for a long time now.

We lose the defense with Jrue, but Dame will be able to be aggressive and gamble on the perimeter with Giannis and Brook waiting down low.
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Post#1218 » by rilamann » Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:02 am

Rstuedes24 wrote:How many games into the season does Dame score the franchise record points in a game?



No Bucks teammates have ever both scored 50 or more in the same game.

I remember Big Dogg and Vin both got 40 in the same game once, but I'm like 99.9% sure no Bucks teammates have ever scored 50. That's something to look out for this season.
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Post#1219 » by raferfenix » Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:11 am

Prez wrote:I’m unreasonably optimistic that Crowder will have a resurgent season.


Idk if it's so unreasonable to think the Jae absolutely blew it thinking he could sit out that long at his age and still play up to a level to earn a contract worth the drama with the Suns.

Am very hopeful that after a training camp to get in shape and get integrated into the team he'll be in a dramatically better place to contribute.

From that perspective it could be a coup for the Bucks considering he's now on a minimum deal.

Or he's just Serge Ibaka 2.0 and the Bucks burned seconds and that's that. But damn now that we have Dame especially Cowder's got that much more of an opportunity to earn himself one last serious contract.
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Post#1220 » by BradMKE » Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:12 am

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Haha this is a bit much.



no it isnt


Has any team in any sport done a welcome rally for a newly traded for or free agent signing?? I'm not mad but seems like rallys are more for winning something.


Let's be honest. This isn't a rally as much as an opportunity to lure a bunch of casual Bucks fans into an area full of ticket reps looking to lock them into season or partial season tickets (and make a few bucks in merch sales).

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