Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Joe Johnson workout, pg 97

[crowhead76]

I am fearful that Dieng and Aldridge fill the Heat's final roster spots, although they may opt to sign only 1 to avoid going over the tax line.

Dieng and Teague would be great, the one problem for Dieng is where are the minutes going to come from. Tucker would have to play the 3 more.

Jrue
Middleton
Tucker
Giannis
Dieng

Against certain matchups, this could be fun.

[Mtsportsfan]

I find it odd that the teams that are mentioned in potential buy outs r the nets, Lakers, Sixers, Celtics. No mention , or atleast of what I seen of the bucks. How can those other teams have any cap space available. Either they don't care about the cap and are willing to go over or there gm's know how to circumvent the cap better than ours. Seems to me that Horst has made some mistakes in that regard this year that might cost us.

Buyout players sign for minimums. You don't need cap space.

Sent from my SM-N986U1 using RealGM mobile app

thanks for the info , didn't know that. Wonder why we are not mention as much for a possible destination more. Never mind , I do know why. We are the bucks from the midwest, don't want to promote them too much.

[Mtsportsfan]

I find it odd that the teams that are mentioned in potential buy outs r the nets, Lakers, Sixers, Celtics. No mention , or atleast of what I seen of the bucks. How can those other teams have any cap space available. Either they don't care about the cap and are willing to go over or there gm's know how to circumvent the cap better than ours. Seems to me that Horst has made some mistakes in that regard this year that might cost us.

Buyout players sign for minimums. You don't need cap space.

Sent from my SM-N986U1 using RealGM mobile app

thanks for the info , didn't know that. Wonder why we are not mention as much for a possible destination more. Never mind , I do know why. We are the bucks from the midwest, don't want to promote them too much.

[crowhead76]

I find it odd that the teams that are mentioned in potential buy outs r the nets, Lakers, Sixers, Celtics. No mention , or atleast of what I seen of the bucks. How can those other teams have any cap space available. Either they don't care about the cap and are willing to go over or there gm's know how to circumvent the cap better than ours. Seems to me that Horst has made some mistakes in that regard this year that might cost us.

Buyout players sign for minimums. You don't need cap space.

Sent from my SM-N986U1 using RealGM mobile app

thanks for the info , didn't know that. Wonder why we are not mention as much for a possible destination more. Never mind , I do know why. We are the bucks from the midwest, don't want to promote them too much.

I think in this instance it may help the Bucks, if they are targeting Teague, they need him to clear waivers so their public interest in him may provoke another team to claim him off waivers if they have the ability to do so. Olynyk and Dieng would be different scenarios as they will both clear waivers at their current salaries. If the Bucks are interested in either of them I would assume they would be mentioned as a potential suitor. I don't think the Bucks have any interest in Drummond or Aldridge.

[Fresh_Prince12]

I am fearful that Dieng and Aldridge fill the Heat's final roster spots, although they may opt to sign only 1 to avoid going over the tax line.

Dieng and Teague would be great, the one problem for Dieng is where are the minutes going to come from. Tucker would have to play the 3 more.

Jrue
Middleton
Tucker
Giannis
Dieng

Against certain matchups, this could be fun.

Dieng would only play for emergencies like what we have now with both Bobby and Tucker being out. He’s also just another big body to throw at Embiid instead of portis who would be a liability

[crowhead76]

I am fearful that Dieng and Aldridge fill the Heat's final roster spots, although they may opt to sign only 1 to avoid going over the tax line.

Dieng and Teague would be great, the one problem for Dieng is where are the minutes going to come from. Tucker would have to play the 3 more.

Jrue
Middleton
Tucker
Giannis
Dieng

Against certain matchups, this could be fun.

Dieng would only play for emergencies like what we have now with both Bobby and Tucker being out. He’s also just another big body to throw at Embiid instead of portis who would be a liability

If that is all that the Bucks can offer, then there is probably zero interest from Dieng to sign here.

[M-C-G]

Yeah Teague and either Kelly or Dieng would be nice. Let’s not forget Brook isn’t a young dude and if he goes down we are thin at the C. Feel like Kelly would be almost ideal fit and wouldn’t have to worry about him trying to pop Giannis arm out of socket


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[StickeeFingaz]

Problem with selling buyout bigs to come play for the Bucks is that they're really only going to get minutes if somebody is hurt or resting.

[M-C-G]

Problem with selling buyout bigs to come play for the Bucks is that they're really only going to get minutes if somebody is hurt or resting.

Well...yeah. Although I think Teague would be rotational guy for us given DJA was playing 19 mpg and we didn't really replace that role yet.

And Kelly is good enough that you could give Brook more rest days and roll with him as a spot starter and Portis keeps his bench role. I think there is some value to that. With Dieng, I am more going off the comments from others on the board that think he is an adequate fit, been forever since I have seen him play.

[crowhead76]

Teague and Porter Jr if bought out make the most sense for our roster and for them seeing meaningful minutes. Dieng is the player I would most want on this roster, I just don't know how they sell him on playing time.

Holiday - Teague
DDV - Pat - Merrill - Forbes
Middleton - Porter Jr - Thanasis - (2)Toupane
Giannis - Tucker - Kurucs - Nwora
Lopez - Portis - (2)Diakite

or

Holiday - Teague
DDV - Pat - Merrill - Forbes
Middleton - Tucker - Thanasis - (2)Toupane
Giannis - Portis - Kurucs - Nwora
Lopez - Dieng - (2)Diakite

[giannis and 1]

What's so good about Dieng? Isn't he one of those guys that just started playing like ass after securing the bag?

[ShootingtheJ]

What's so good about Dieng? Isn't he one of those guys that just started playing like ass after securing the bag?

Dieng is a strong defender, plays hard, unselfish, and has shown consistent improvement with the 3, up to 44% this year.

Dieng's play didn't drop off with the payday, just the expectation of him changed.

He's better than LMA or Drummond.

[Plossum]

Not sold on Dieng. I'd rather give Diakite more reps.

[Baddy Chuck]

What's so good about Dieng? Isn't he one of those guys that just started playing like ass after securing the bag?

Nah he secured a payday and then Minnesota realized that Towns is a center.

[DrWood]

I am fearful that Dieng and Aldridge fill the Heat's final roster spots, although they may opt to sign only 1 to avoid going over the tax line.

Dieng and Teague would be great, the one problem for Dieng is where are the minutes going to come from. Tucker would have to play the 3 more.

Jrue
Middleton
Tucker
Giannis
Dieng

Against certain matchups, this could be fun.

Dieng would only play for emergencies like what we have now with both Bobby and Tucker being out. He’s also just another big body to throw at Embiid instead of portis who would be a liability

Dieng is better than Tucker. He's probably about equal or better than Portis, depending on if you think his 3P% is sustainable or a fluke.

[slos]

Good buyout guys are always welcome, but I can’t stop thinking that if we get one Bud will be tempted to use again a 10 man rotation in the playoffs.

Jrue (38)/Forbes (10)
DDV (32)/Pat (16)
Midds (38)/Pat and Tucker (10)
Giannis (38)/Tucker (10)
Brook (28)/Portis (20)

We are already good with this. My biggest concern is that if another vet is signed Bud will cut minutes from the starters. If he is talked into having another just as insurance in case somebody gets hurt, I would be happy with that.

[thomchatt3rton]

Good buyout guys are always welcome, but I can’t stop thinking that if we get one Bud will be tempted to use again a 10 man rotation in the playoffs.

Jrue (38)/Forbes (10)
DDV (32)/Pat (16)
Midds (38)/Pat and Tucker (10)
Giannis (38)/Tucker (10)
Brook (28)/Portis (20)

We are already good with this. My biggest concern is that if another vet is signed Bud will cut minutes from the starters. If he is talked into having another just as insurance in case somebody gets hurt, I would be happy with that.

Depends entirely on if we get the right buy-out guy for the right, clearly-defined role or not. I think we definitely need another ballhandling guard, for example.


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app

[ShootingtheJ]

Good buyout guys are always welcome, but I can’t stop thinking that if we get one Bud will be tempted to use again a 10 man rotation in the playoffs.

Jrue (38)/Forbes (10)
DDV (32)/Pat (16)
Midds (38)/Pat and Tucker (10)
Giannis (38)/Tucker (10)
Brook (28)/Portis (20)

We are already good with this. My biggest concern is that if another vet is signed Bud will cut minutes from the starters. If he is talked into having another just as insurance in case somebody gets hurt, I would be happy with that.

In the Covid era, the need for depth could pop up at any second.

Also, Merrill is taking Forbes spot.

[coolhandluke121]

I want Dieng but shockingly enough I'm okay with Portis, Thanasis, and Tucker as the backup bigs. The issue of minutes is valid though. Personally I would put Dieng ahead of any of them except maybe Tucker if he gets 100% healthy and fit, but I can see why he might look elsewhere.

The debates over Forbes and Merrill kind of miss the point IMO. The answer is C, none of the above. They made a conscious choice to sacrifice 7-12 depth for a more top-heavy playoff rotation. The inevitable consequence is having to figure which players who don't belong in an NBA playoff rotation at all belong in the playoff rotation of a top contender, which is about as easy as it sounds.

I'll still be pretty surprised if Teague clears waivers. I believe the main reasons the vast majority of guys clear waivers are because contending teams can't absorb their salary, nobody wants them at that price, and/or they would have been traded to a contender before the deadline if they had value. It's rare to see players with Teague's ability and salary on the waiver wire. Even if you think he's basically washed, that's a minimum salary for a healthy 32-year-old former all-star hitting 46% of his 3's. I believe the main reason he made it to waivers is because Orlando was involved in too many last-minute deals and didn't have time to flip him before the deadline. It probably wasn't a priority for a measly late 2nd-rounder or a little cash. Some seem to think a major reason waiver claims don't happen more often is because agents and players control it, but I've already listed what I think are the main reasons. Maybe he will be able to force his way to a team and will choose Milwaukee, but I will be pleasantly surprised if it works out that way.

[paulpressey25]

Dieng to the Spurs.

Have to still watch Teague (Clears waivers tomorrow afternoon)