06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation

[paulpressey25]

Is Hinrich any better than the combination of Sessions and Bell?

I'll admit, this stopped me in my love of Hinrich.....I don't think he is if you count the possible upside we get in seeing what Ramon is made of by being thrown into the starters role.

[pilprin]

Wichmae - I truly hope everything is okay. With the new regime, sources are hard to come by. All I ask is tomorrow, if we make a deal let us know if it was the one you have been alluding to for a week.

I'm guessing the Hinrich rumor is not that deal.

Also, we all know that 98% of all rumors fall apart for some reason or another.

I appreciate the fact that you gave us something to chat about all week.

I'm sorry it turned out bad.

[Wise1]

Is Hinrich any better than the combination of Sessions and Bell?

Sessions is a best creator of all of them.
Bell is as good of a defender as Hinrich.
Hinrich right now is a better scorer than both and better defender than Sessions/Mo.
Mo is a better scorer than all three and equal distributor to Hinrich.

Yay, I wrote my own Abbott and Costello routine.

I think Mo will be outta here for whoever Portland picks at #13. I think Sessions/Bell = Hinrich. The Bucks should stay at home and pick their favorite at 8 and pick up another first rounder and possibly another 2nd rounder by cashing in Mo and CV. I think Redd should stay to give the offense some security. Skiles may be able to make him a more commited defender and playmaker.

[Simulack]

Wichmae - I truly hope everything is okay. With the new regime, sources are hard to come by. All I ask is tomorrow, if we make a deal let us know if it was the one you have been alluding to for a week.

What is the point of that?

I can do that if you want.

Right now I know a deal. Although I can't reveal a single detail currently, I'll let you know if a trade goes down tomorrow if it was the one I am alluding to right now. I also have a great source telling me who we draft at #8 AND who we will draft if we move up or down. Of course I can't say who those guys are since my source will get mad but I'll let you know after the fact if my source was right!

The inside source thing on this board is way out of hand. Years ago I don't recall there being more than 1 or 2 people who claimed any special knowledge; now everyone and their grandmother has an inside source or is friends with some particular player. IMO its often lowered the quality of the board which this thread is a testament to.

[dedned]

it doesnt matter who it is. Thats the point of knowing some things wheterh media or sources is that it doesnt get past the peopel you told it not to get past. I made it as clear as day that this was NOT supposed to be posted and morons started handing it out like candy.

thats the last time.

who's the moron who originally handed it out?

[pilprin]

Sim -

Maybe I'm just Naive, but I do know some (not all) of these people have a connection. I don't so I'm living vicariously through them. (not really)

I take people at face value until they prove otherwise.

Sorry if that sounds stupid to you.

[wichmae]

it doesnt matter who it is. Thats the point of knowing some things wheterh media or sources is that it doesnt get past the peopel you told it not to get past. I made it as clear as day that this was NOT supposed to be posted and morons started handing it out like candy.

thats the last time.

who's the moron who originally handed it out?

Well originally I wont say but

I guess me for trying to trust people.

[worthlessBucks]

Wichmae - I truly hope everything is okay. With the new regime, sources are hard to come by. All I ask is tomorrow, if we make a deal let us know if it was the one you have been alluding to for a week.

I'm guessing the Hinrich rumor is not that deal.

Also, we all know that 98% of all rumors fall apart for some reason or another.

I appreciate the fact that you gave us something to chat about all week.

I'm sorry it turned out bad.

What is that going to do? Any deal fits the vague descriptions he provided so it's irrelevant as we wouldn't know if he was telling the truth or not.

it doesnt matter who it is. Thats the point of knowing some things wheterh media or sources is that it doesnt get past the peopel you told it not to get past. I made it as clear as day that this was NOT supposed to be posted and morons started handing it out like candy.

thats the last time.

If somebody is in hot water about a rumor leaking out wich, you can only blame yourself really. You go against your own criticism above by posting about it on a message board to some individuals whom you most likely have not spent time with off the board. If it's so top secret, the beans shouldn't have been spilled or even alluded to. For the record, I would have preferred not to have ever seen this rumored deal

[Simulack]

who's the moron who originally handed it out?

That was my first thought if you mean what I think. Seriously, how can he call anyone a moron for divulging i t- what the hell did Wichmae think was going to happen when he started mailing out "top secret" information to a bunch of people on an Internet message board?

If any of this is true, the only moron here is the original source for confiding in someone who thought it was a good idea to start emailing it to strangers.

[BlueJeep]

Or did some smartass e-mail you guys a picture of the Lopez twins making out or something?

I saw a paparazzi photo of twirly's date the other night.

Where did you see a pic of Twiggys hand?

[andonewheel]

The PG is the head of any team. If Skiles wants to change the culture, his ability to do so is greatly improved if he has his guy running things. Hinrich at PG can then impact the other four guys. I wouldn't downplay how important that dynamic is. And what a head start it gives Skiles on working on the other four positions knowing that the PG spot is taken care of with one of his guys.

I don't know if Skiles has that kind of power to tell Hammond the GM to trade for a specific player. Specifically I can't see Hammond making such a big (and disastrous) trade to appease Skiles. Skiles hasn't shown himself to be the type of coach you keep around for a decade, I consider him an excellent "tune-up" coach to hold players accountable for their effort and get everyone to play hard. I can see Hammond around for much longer. I wouldn't be opposed to a CV/Hinrich trade, but keep our pick away.

[wichmae]

Well, this is the last one so have fun with it.

[NeedsMoreCheese]

Id post my opinion on something, however, I cant even censor it enough to the point where it wouldnt have reprecussions. So i'll just say, some of you are even worse than the equivalent of Anthony Mason to this board.

[midranger]

Ok, so that is the last time I will ever post anything of that substance here again. Or send anything to anyone via e-mail again. I made it very clear that it wasnt supposed to end up on here or any other site. Well it did and now the person I got it from is worried.

Way to go genius...

Wow. No offense, but what the hell are you thinking?

You came onto a very public, well visited website with an "I know something you don't" attitude. When people began lapping it up, you began dropping equally public hints for whatever satisfaction having people know you have have inside sources grants you. Then a few people make mocking posts, and you decide to go all out and put the object of the rumor on the same public forum. Then you offer an open invitation to internet strangers to get the full deal in a secret e-mail. Then one guy does what literally everyone in the world would assume happen, and posts it on the same forum that you began the whole mess on.

If your source's job is in jeopardy, he's certainly earned it. He has no one to blame but himself and you.

[Wise1]

it doesnt matter who it is. Thats the point of knowing some things wheterh media or sources is that it doesnt get past the peopel you told it not to get past. I made it as clear as day that this was NOT supposed to be posted and morons started handing it out like candy.

thats the last time.

who's the moron who originally handed it out?

Well originally I wont say but

I guess me for trying to trust people.

Tough deal there. It's human nature to want to share coveted information with friends. For those that admonished others for publishing private information, I say they themselves share culpability for encouraging you to share this information with them. Are they not in effect asking you to violate a trust between you and your source? How then can they point the finger at any here who published the rumor?

You should have never told ANYONE. Doesn't make you a bad friend, just human. Things will work out.

[midranger]

My hope is that this is all just a well orchestrated smokescreen, because if not, this info was bumbled fairly callously.

Plus the deal sucks.

[pilprin]

Since this tread is really a dead issue, can it be locked by the moderators?

[emunney]

He's a Wise1 indeed.

[wichmae]

Well since the people I sent it to I have at least met once before in person I though I could at least trust them with the full disclosure I gave them. I never once tried to do the "I know somethign you dont know deal" Its uninformed posts like this where things get into the gray area. After talking with a few other people who actually know things they have also agreed to not post things now because of this whole mess created. The "email" was given to 3 people two of them I have shared information with previously.

[paulpressey25]

Since this tread is really a dead issue, can it be locked by the moderators?

This is the greatest thread in RealGM history....until we have the next greatest thread in RealGM history next month......

We've got to keep this one going until the Hinrich deal collapses tomorrow night.....