ATL - Oladipo is Really Good (and Bledsoe dominant again)

[bizarro]

5/14

Classic Jennings...

I'd change my username to that if my username wasn't so awesome.

Detroit is just awful. Jennings gonna Jenny. We lose by 15. Book it.

[AussieBuck]

I honestly didn't think Jennings would take Bogut on. Same old fading left **** swatted off the backboard and he got beautifully ran over. I want my gif.

[Baddy Chuck]

Did he roll from the baseline into the cameramen too?

[bizarro]

I love both Monroe's and Drummond's games. Am I crazy? I'd build around their dynamic abilities in a heartbeat.

They didn't extend Monroe. And, they added Jennings and Smoove. WTF. Seriously, WTF.

[AussieBuck]

I love both Monroe's and Drummond's games. Am I crazy? I'd build around their dynamic abilities in a heartbeat.

They didn't extend Monroe. And, they added Jennings and Smoove. WTF. Seriously, WTF.

Monroe has the dynamic ability to be clueless on D and unable to space the floor to be a full time PF on offense. He should've been traded by now while he still has percieved value. Drummond is a force who needs a good defensive coach because his pick and roll D needs some work which isn't surprising for a guy as young as him but he has a **** mentor who obviously hasn't learned anything from the coaching staff.

[bizarro]

I love both Monroe's and Drummond's games. Am I crazy? I'd build around their dynamic abilities in a heartbeat.

They didn't extend Monroe. And, they added Jennings and Smoove. WTF. Seriously, WTF.

Monroe has the dynamic ability to be clueless on D and unable to space the floor to be a full time PF on offense. He should've been traded by now while he still has percieved value. Drummond is a force who needs a good defensive coach because his pick and roll D needs some work which isn't surprising for a guy as young as him but he has a **** mentor who obviously hasn't learned anything from the coaching staff.

Here's the thing for me though. Monroe is now hitting the 15-18' jumper w/ regularity. He has hit it all season. And, he now uses that to get the lane to open up. And, he has a decent handle so he's getting to the rack and finishing regularly. But, what I don't understand about Detroit is Monroe was the classic point forward in G-Town's offense. He was and is a great passer if used in that capacity. So, I just don't think they're getting the max out of what he offers. Instead, they've given the keys to Baddy Chuck. Cheeks sat Smoove tonite after his third absolutely atrocious 3, thankfully. But, really, I think Monroe could be a focal point on the offensive end if used in the correct manner - i.e. Vlade in the old Adelman Kings offenses.

Regardless, monroe is only 23. He's a southpaw. I've watched him play quite a bit this year and I can verifiably say I'd take him over Favors all day at this point. I really like his game and think he's undervalued, honestly.

[AussieBuck]

I don't know, I see David Lee as his ceiling and he'll likely get paid at least as much as Lee. If he was paid $8 million on the right team he's fine but I think he'll get close to if not his max.

[bizarro]

I hear you. You think Monroe's defensive inefficiencies, in your eyes, have him in Lee's class? The thing is Monroe has 2" and 10 lbs. on Lee. that's quite a bit there. Either way, I'm going to keep watching and assessing and I'll look at the defensive end a bit more studiously.

[AussieBuck]

I hear you. You think Monroe's defensive inefficiencies, in your eyes, have him in Lee's class? The thing is Monroe has 2" and 10 lbs. on Lee. that's quite a bit there. Either way, I'm going to keep watching and assessing and I'll look at the defensive end a bit more studiously.

Make Lee 7'6 300 pounds without any loss of athleticism and he's still a rubbish defender. I honestly don't understand how he and Monroe can be so good at the nuances of the pick and roll offensively yet they look like htey've never seen it before on D and treat the whole play with utter bewilderment.

[jr lucosa]

Monroe has a little bit of size on a guy like Lee but he doesn't use it to his advantage much, especially on the defensive end. He could suceed in a situation where he's got a great defensive C with him and he's playing the 4, if he can knock down his shots consistently. Last year his numbers were down because unlike the year prior he couldn't knock down anything away from the basket with consistency, despite the fact that he likes to hang out around the high post.

I agree with AB that he's got value on the right contract in the right situation, but giving him max or near max money is something he'll never live up to, and I do think it's more likely than not that he gets a big pay day this off-season.

[machu46]

Just a rumor, but supposedly Knicks and Nuggets are talking about a Shumpert-Faried swap. Not sure I like the move for either side.

[paulpressey25]

I'd like us to get in on the Faried thing if at all possible. Wouldn't give up a draft pick, but would try Ersan and other assets.

[Baddy Chuck]

Shumpert for Faried is an absolute steal for New York.

[Ron Swanson]

I'd like us to get in on the Faried thing if at all possible. Wouldn't give up a draft pick, but would try Ersan and other assets.

I just don't know what kind of ceiling Faried has left, if any. He's a classic late 1st round guy that relies almost entirely on hustle and athleticism. Sure, he's a great complementary guy that will give you energy and will scrap for loose balls and rebounds, but I'd much rather have a guy with length at the 4 like Henson. I think NY would be foolish to give up Shumpert for him.

[ReasonablySober]

Faried is **** terrible. A big that can't defend and can't shoot? Sign me up for that.

[machu46]

I'd like us to get in on the Faried thing if at all possible. Wouldn't give up a draft pick, but would try Ersan and other assets.

You think we'd have to give up assets on top of Ilyasova for Faried? I don't get that personally. Faried is a good rebounder and that's it. He doesn't do anything else well.

I think both Shumpert and Faried are overrated personally, and I don't think either side gets better by making the rumored trade.

[paulpressey25]

Faried's first two years he had a 61% TS and 57%. He also in the league leaders in rebound percentage and offensive rebound rate. A lot of teams didnt like to play against the guy because he was a pain in the ass nuts in a prime Rodman type of way. I just view him as a more interesting and disruptive player than Ersan. I'd trade Ersan for him in a heartbeat.

[Rockmaninoff]

Faried would fit well with a guy like Bargnani (who can theoretically guard centers and space the floor).

Not sure what Denver wants with Shumpert?

[ReasonablySober]

I think you guys are nuts. There's a reason Denver has shopped him around. He's about to become incredibly overpaid.

[ReasonablySober]

Faried would fit well with a guy like Bargnani (who can theoretically guard centers and space the floor).

Not sure what Denver wants with Shumpert?

Worst defensive frontcourt in NBA history and it wouldn't be close.