Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[VooDoo7]

Sherman Douglas, please, for the love of God, change your avatar!

[Baddy Chuck]

Suns deal I want is Alex Len, Bogdanovic & Archie Goodwin for Larry & Ersan.

Meh, could do worse I guess. Would be a hell of a move for the Suns though.

[BuckHole]

I don't want.

[skones]

Bledsoe's vision is pretty poor.

And Wiggins can't shoot or dribble, we're just not going to agree on this subject. He's not Steve Nash I surely don't think he's a detriment.

Do you really get this butt hurt when people disagree with you in the real world? Good lord. Wiggins has nothing to do with this thread. Best case scenario, he's probably below average in that regard from the position. He's capable of making the simple pass, but he isn't going to create looks for others. He's got a tendency to put his head down when he's diving into the lane and leave his feet which I think the draftexpress video illustrates rather well. Bledsoe has his strengths, but acting like his vision isn't a weakness would be unwise.

[JayMKE]

Pass on that deal, Suns take that and run. Would be a shame if Lebron passed on them after that.

[WRau1]

Suns deal I want is Alex Len, Bogdanovic & Archie Goodwin for Larry & Ersan.

76ers would poop their pants if we did that, I like it. I'd try to get a pick too.

[BigO]

Tunnel vision and horrible shot selection.

This says it all. Bledsoe admittedly has average (I'd say below average) court vision. His assists, even on a team which was much better offensively than the Bucks, was the same as knight and yet he is somehow head and shoulders above knight. Knight is not an awful point guard. He is decent and getting better.

It is clear that facts and performance are not important to some of the posters. Paying someone with Bledsoe's mediocre history of average stats and injuries is just a repeat of prior Buck's mistakes. Hammond is a good drafter, but a bad evaluator of free agents. The Bucks need a guard who knows how to get other players involved. That may not be Knight, but it certainly isn't Bledsoe. You pour that much money into Bledsoe and you hamstring yourself for several years in getting a true facilitator. Have some patience.

Just so I'm clear you're willing to pay Knight 4/36 or 4/40, but not Bledose at 4/56?

No, I wouldn't pay Knight that much money now. I would wait to see how he progresses this year and then make a decision when his first contract runs out. If he improves as a facilitator, I'd consider the lower figure. I think his efficiency will improve with more options available to him.

[Baddy Chuck]

Bledsoe's vision is pretty poor.

And Wiggins can't shoot or dribble, we're just not going to agree on this subject. He's not Steve Nash I surely don't think he's a detriment.

Do you really get this butt hurt when people disagree with you in the real world? Good lord. Wiggins has nothing to do with this thread. Best case scenario, he's probably below average in that regard from the position. He's capable of making the simple pass, but he isn't going to create looks for others. He's got a tendency to put his head down when he's diving into the lane and leave his feet which I think the draftexpress video illustrates rather well. Bledsoe has his strengths, but acting like his vision isn't a weakness would be unwise.

I'm just pointing out how we are surely going to have differing opinions based on previous examples.

I don't think his vision is poor. I think a lot of the weaknesses you point out come from the fact that he is a VERY efficient scorer on his own and a lot of his mistakes come off of him looking for his own shot. I'd compare it to Damian Lillard. He's a scorer with average vision who makes a lot of mistakes because he is looking for his own shot and he very well should be at the level he scores at. When both guys do choose to defer to teammates they have pretty respectable passing ability. There are scoring point guards with better vision, there surely are scoring point guards with worse. I think he's right around the middle. I guess it's a weakness in the sense that he could get better and it certainly isn't at the level of his strengths, but I certainly don't think his vision is a detriment to his team. I'd say the only place he has "poor" vision is the few times a games where defenses make a great reaction to him at the rim, and that's probably the hardest play in the league for a point guard. Only a few guys are Steve Nash there.

[DrWood]

I'm just wondering why folks think Bledsoe is a real PG. He's a short combo guard. Haven't we had enough of those already? He has never had a good Ast/TO ratio. He might be better than Knight (he was a better shooter and defender than him last season), but he's shorter and two years older.

[TroyD92]

I'm just wondering why folks think Bledsoe is a real PG. He's a short combo guard. Haven't we had enough of those already? He has never had a good Ast/TO ratio. He might be better than Knight (he was a better shooter and defender than him last season), but he's shorter and two years older.

He was a substantially better shooter and light years ahead of Knight as a defender.

[GA34]

For a small market looking for national media attention wouldn't getting Lin and a first round pick be way more beneficial then signing Bledsoe to a max contract which the suns are likely to match regardless.

Lin could run the team like he did New York and though i wouldnt expect the same results it would be fun to watch and national media would be all over linsanity part 2 and the Bucks would get huge exposure while also building towards the future.

[JayMKE]

"Real" PGs are the most overrated players in the history of the game, just because a guy can rack up 10+ assist doesn't mean he's a better player than a guy like Bledsoe who can so much more. You can just look at the playoffs as evidence of their irrelevancy. Besides Giannis is a guy we're going to want taking some of those point duties anyways, Bledsoe is literally the perfect PG for this a team. An athletic jack of all trades who can score and defend, our team would be a beast in transition.

[ampd]

The game has evolved past the days when having a true pg or c was vastly important. These days players at every position are asked to do more things and the roles are much more interchangeable especially in europe.

It's for practical reasons as much as anything. It just doesn't make sense for a team to wait around for Steve Nash when that type of player is so rare.

Most of the best teams ever actually lacked a great true pg and the best 2 true PGs of the most recent generation in Nash and cp3 haven't exactly camped out an annual spot in the finals.

We just need to use all avenues to acquire elite talent. I don't particularly care what position they would have played in the 1970s

[Garbs_7]

With Cleveland in the position they are in now in regards to Lebron + others, they must be desperate to dump that Jack contract like rumours are suggesting. I'm surprised there aren't more talks of us involved with that, would love to take a future Cavs 1st and a guy like Karasev who I still rate highly to eat that contract.

[Buckrageous]

Man this forum never ceases to amaze me in it's activity.

A thread which now has reached 62 pages and still going strong over a guy like Blledsoe who at best has a very slim chance of ending up on the Bucks.

I'd love to see it actually happen, but even saying a 5% chance is probably being generous.

The Suns forum insider says that PHX wants a star in return in any S&T, as they consider him worthy of his max level. So I'd rate the chances at nil, *unless the Bucks aren't willing to do anything stupid to obtain him.

One way or the other the smart thing for the Suns do it is to tell people they will match anything unless a star is coming back. It might be the truth but it might just be a negotiating ploy. If no one signs him to a max offer sheet the Suns wont have to pay him that much either. Letting other teams know "we wont match" or "we'll s&t him for a bum" doesnt make sense.

[DrWood]

would you give a max contract to (a younger) monta ellis? Bledsoe isn't as good offensively as Monta.

[Buckrageous]

With Cleveland in the position they are in now in regards to Lebron + others, they must be desperate to dump that Jack contract like rumours are suggesting. I'm surprised there aren't more talks of us involved with that, would love to take a future Cavs 1st and a guy like Karasev who I still rate highly to eat that contract.

Id prefer Lin and the cap space again next summer to do the same thing. Of course its not my money. But id take a Jack trade too at the right price.

[Garbs_7]

would you give a max contract to (a younger) monta ellis? Bledsoe isn't as good offensively as Monta.

I think Bledsoe has already shown to be a smarter player and a million times better defender, so by that logic, yes I would.

[JoeJohnson2two]

Suns deal I want is Alex Len, Bogdanovic & Archie Goodwin for Larry & Ersan.

Yuck

[Buckrageous]

would you give a max contract to (a younger) monta ellis? Bledsoe isn't as good offensively as Monta.

Would this young Monta Ellis be a lockdown defender?