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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1241 » by Plossum » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:06 pm

Warriors might laugh and hang up but worth a shot:

Bobby, Marjon > Warriors
Moody, GPII, Saric > Bucks.

Warriors could bite. They’re small and Bobby solves some issues for them and can shoot which they’d like with Steph. Marjon gives them a young wing they can use off the bench.

Moody is a bit hit and miss but worth a shot from us. He’d be huge for us in the SG spot if we can make it work with him. GP2 is a great situational bench defensive guard. Saric gives us 80% of what Bobby does.

Warriors would unlikely do it as they prob still value Moody despite his erratic playing time. But worth a phone call.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1242 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:39 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
LuessiT wrote:Avdija has a poison pill contract. Very hard to match.

Traditionally, PP's are extremely difficult to maneuver, but not so much in Deni's case. He counts as $6,263,188 outgoing for WAS and $13,750,00 ($55M divided by 4 years, descending contract) incoming for MKE, and in a three-team deal, $7,486,812 is a very maneuverable number (WAS can absorb some money, potentially a 3rd team can as well, obviously the Bucks can't.)


Also, the Wizards have 6 TPEs, some large, so Deni's PPP is a non factor.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1243 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:46 pm

RiotPunch wrote:The ignore button is a beautiful tool.

MKE: Avdija, Wright
HOU: Portis Connaughton
WAS: Oladipo, Landale, Beauchamp, HOU '25 1st (Top-10 protected), PDX '24 2nd, MKE '27 2nd

Pick compensation might be off a bit, but mayyybe.


Same idea, but add a stopgap backup center for us

MKE: Avdija, Wright, Bamba
Hou: Pirtis, Connaughton
Was: Olidipo, Landale, Houston 1st, 2- via Bucks, 2 -2nds via 76ers
76ers: Beasley

Philly tried to sign Beasley in the offseason and is looking for a shooter. Bamba is stuck as 3rd string there behind Reed. We keep Marjon
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1244 » by Sigra » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:05 pm

Khris for Wiggins

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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1245 » by Ayt » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:16 pm

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Dude is still 2nd in the entire league in post up frequency (yes, above Embiid, KAT, AD, Porzingis, Sengun, etc and any other talented big outside of Jokic), while doing it on bad efficiency. Among players with 50+ post ups this season, he’s dead last in pass % and 2nd to last in assist % out of post ups

We have a 122.8 DRTG in almost 600 minutes with Bobby on court WITH Giannis. And if we wanna blame Griffin/surrounding personnel for that, worth noting this is coming off last season where we had a 121.3 DRTG in over 500 minutes with Giannis/Bobby. He is 2nd percentile in defensive EPM, slightly worse than James Wiseman and good for 11th worst in the league lol.

I am begging Jon Horst to find a way to steal a defensive minded forward for him.


Horst the magician needs to somehow use Bobby to get Bruce Brown.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1246 » by pifhluk23 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:37 pm

Wow I've been backing Dame in threads but he is really having a terrible January - 39% fg and 28% 3p
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1247 » by Turk Nowitzki » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:49 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:Wow I've been backing Dame in threads but he is really having a terrible January - 39% fg and 28% 3p

It's driving me a little insane. Like we got this guy because he's a top 75 all time player and an offensive force unto himself and too often I've been wondering if that guy still exists.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1248 » by TGW » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:29 pm

there's no way Deni is getting traded for that heap of junk.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1249 » by ackypoo » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:33 pm

SirChurros wrote:
Spoiler:
RiotPunch wrote:
emunney wrote:
I still really like this idea. Wizards are below the cap so the contract stuff is less of an issue, but the extension makes me think they want to keep him. What's the offer?

:dontknow:

MKE: Avdija, Wright
NYK: Tyus, Portis
WAS: Fournier, Connaughton, Grimes, Beauchamp, DAL '24 1st (Top-10 protected), WAS '24 1st returned, NYK '25 1st (lottery protected) PDX '24 2nd, MKE '27 2nd

Can we get Tyus and Avdija instead?

avdija is better and has more value.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1250 » by ackypoo » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:39 pm

TGW wrote:there's no way Deni is getting traded for that heap of junk.

no disrespect to you, but the wizards might be the dumbest and most poorly run franchises in all of sports. look what they got for beal.

they could trade deni for a 2nd round pick for all you know. theyre **** idiots.

not to mention, draft compensation can be made in any of these trades proposed.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1251 » by German Athens » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:41 pm

Just as a reminder, in case it wasn’t clear, usage % is just the percent of possessions that end with you (shot attempt, ft attempt, turnover) while you’re in the game. So someone could have a higher usage, but actually took fewer scoring chances because they played fewer minutes. That’s what we’re seeing with Bobby.

With that said, Bobby isn’t really efficient enough to demand that usage, particularly when better players are on the court with him.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1252 » by msiris » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:42 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
pifhluk23 wrote:Wow I've been backing Dame in threads but he is really having a terrible January - 39% fg and 28% 3p

It's driving me a little insane. Like we got this guy because he's a top 75 all time player and an offensive force unto himself and too often I've been wondering if that guy still exists.
Maybe he is a bad fit with Giannis since nobody has to watch him outside therefore clogging lane too much?
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1253 » by Turk Nowitzki » Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:45 pm

msiris wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
pifhluk23 wrote:Wow I've been backing Dame in threads but he is really having a terrible January - 39% fg and 28% 3p

It's driving me a little insane. Like we got this guy because he's a top 75 all time player and an offensive force unto himself and too often I've been wondering if that guy still exists.
Maybe he is a bad fit with Giannis since nobody has to watch him outside therefore clogging lane too much?

I'll be interested to see what adjustments, if any, the new coaching staff implements. To me though, it can't all be attributed to that. He's looked a step slow and his shot hasn't really been there consistently at all.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1254 » by ShootingtheJ » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:05 pm

msiris wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
pifhluk23 wrote:Wow I've been backing Dame in threads but he is really having a terrible January - 39% fg and 28% 3p

It's driving me a little insane. Like we got this guy because he's a top 75 all time player and an offensive force unto himself and too often I've been wondering if that guy still exists.
Maybe he is a bad fit with Giannis since nobody has to watch him outside therefore clogging lane too much?


Have you seen who Dames past teammates were? He had great seasons with Harkless and Imunu as the starting 3 and 4.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1255 » by TGW » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:08 pm

ackypoo wrote:
TGW wrote:there's no way Deni is getting traded for that heap of junk.

no disrespect to you, but the wizards might be the dumbest and most poorly run franchises in all of sports. look what they got for beal.

they could trade deni for a 2nd round pick for all you know. theyre **** idiots.

not to mention, draft compensation can be made in any of these trades proposed.


Beal's situation was completely different sir. Beal had a NTC and a trade kicker and could dictate where he wanted to go which handcuffed the front office on where they could move him. But that's beside the point...Avidja is not getting traded, and certainly not for the junk proposed in this thread.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1256 » by emunney » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:11 pm

TGW wrote:
ackypoo wrote:
TGW wrote:there's no way Deni is getting traded for that heap of junk.

no disrespect to you, but the wizards might be the dumbest and most poorly run franchises in all of sports. look what they got for beal.

they could trade deni for a 2nd round pick for all you know. theyre **** idiots.

not to mention, draft compensation can be made in any of these trades proposed.


Beal's situation was completely different sir. Beal had a NTC and a trade kicker and could dictate where he wanted to go which handcuffed the front office on where they could move him. But that's beside the point...Avidja is not getting traded, and certainly not for the junk proposed in this thread.


Well-informed speculation I'm sure, but immaterial to the discussion of whether Bucks fans want to trade for him. Besides, quality players get traded for junk all the time. Opinions are neither static nor uniform.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1257 » by ejn1214 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:12 pm

Tony Snell is waiting guys... There was just a yahoo article on him.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1258 » by msiris » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:21 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
msiris wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:It's driving me a little insane. Like we got this guy because he's a top 75 all time player and an offensive force unto himself and too often I've been wondering if that guy still exists.
Maybe he is a bad fit with Giannis since nobody has to watch him outside therefore clogging lane too much?

I'll be interested to see what adjustments, if any, the new coaching staff implements. To me though, it can't all be attributed to that. He's looked a step slow and his shot hasn't really been there consistently at all.
i have not not seen him play in the past but he doesn't seem to play with a lot of energy or fire. Maybe his personal problems and the fact he wanted to play in Miami makes him like bluh?
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Dejounte Murray pg 13 

Post#1259 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:42 pm

I have no clue how Tari Eason keeps popping up in trade rumors, but if he's even remotely available, we need to be all over that.

Bobby + Marjon + Chris Livingston + Portland 2nd for Jeff Green, Tari Eason, and Reggie Bullock.
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Post#1260 » by Matches Malone » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:52 pm

Here is my pie-in-the-sky attempt. Eason and Grimes would be fun additions.

Bucks Out: Portis, Marjon, Pat, 2024 POR 2nd
Bucks In: Evan Fournier, Quentin Grimes, Tari Eason

Houston Out: Tari Eason, Jae'Sean Tate
Houston In: Pat Connaughton, Marjon Beauchamp, 2024 POR 2nd, Knicks 1st via DAL

Knicks Out: Quentin Grimes, Evan Fournier, Knicks 1st via DAL
Knicks In: Bobby Portis, Jae'Sean Tate
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