Griffin fired!- Doc Hired - Joerger likely on his way

[tedbrogen]

Three things I expect to see:

1. Lillard becoming by far the primary ball handler on non-transition possessions
2. Far higher percentage of halfcourt possessions beginning with GA screening for Dame
3. GA and Lopez camping in the post on defense to get back to an elite defensive rebounding and paint defensive team

Let’s turn our 2nd ranked offense into by far the best in the league and get our defense at least up to league average.

Lowe called out that the Bucks could go from 22nd Drtg to 17-18 based solely on just getting back in transition. So as long as the players don’t hate Doc, that’s basically a given.

[ReasonablySober]

Joerger would make me feel a whole lot better.

[coping]Me too. Significantly better.[/coping]

[FrieAaron]

I think most know where I stood on the Bud situation and have said openly that I think the vast majority here even if they wanted to move on would have said no to trading Bud for Doc. That said, the NBA Coach Register on basketball-reference lists 348 coaches. In NBA history 36 coaches have won a championship. There are always many different factors that go into who the eventual champs are every season, but the point is it's not easy to do. We moved on from one of those 36. Maybe we now have the coach who would be at the bottom of that list. But he's on it.

[ReddRum]

Interested to see if Giannis will listen to Doc if he tells him to play off ball.

Or stop shooting threes…

or stop playing iso ball and running into walls...

[rilamann]

Doc is the Mike McCarthy of NBA coaches, to use your yardstick.

That said, we needed Mike McCarthy here. Badly.

Can we say Bill Cowher instead?

Andy Reid?

Great counter point.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Luxury tax bill alone this year is approaching $60 million. Edens/Haslam will not hesitate to eat another coaching contract this summer if it's necessary.

You keep saying this and I will keep saying the opposite. If it year 3 of us crapping the bed in the playoffs with only 2 rounds of gate revenue, do you pay the repeater tax again for a bunch of old stars who couldn't win with 2 champion coaches or do you trade Giannis for 100 picks, get nickels on the dollar for Dame, shed brook and start over while saving NINE figures? Honestly I probably do the later

[paulpressey25]

Luxury tax bill alone this year is approaching $60 million. Edens/Haslam will not hesitate to eat another coaching contract this summer if it's necessary.

You keep saying this and I will keep saying the opposite. If it year 3 of us crapping the bed in the playoffs with only 2 rounds of gate revenue, do you pay the repeater tax again for a bunch of old stars who couldn't win with 2 champion coaches or do you trade Giannis for 100 picks, get nickels on the dollar for Dame, shed brook and start over while saving NINE figures? Honestly I probably do the later

You're both wrong.

You run the situation in MIlwaukee with Giannis to its conclusion. Spend all you can. Grab a title or two. And when it's over, you exercise your option to buy out Edens and move the team to Nashville in 2030.

[MickeyDavis]

Luxury tax bill alone this year is approaching $60 million. Edens/Haslam will not hesitate to eat another coaching contract this summer if it's necessary.

You keep saying this and I will keep saying the opposite. If it year 3 of us crapping the bed in the playoffs with only 2 rounds of gate revenue, do you pay the repeater tax again for a bunch of old stars who couldn't win with 2 champion coaches or do you trade Giannis for 100 picks, get nickels on the dollar for Dame, shed brook and start over while saving NINE figures? Honestly I probably do the later

I see your point. But Haslam didn't buy in at age 69 to go through a rebuild a year later. I think we stay all in for at least 2 years. But an early exit against this year could be a death blow.

[rj_dio]

Does anyone actually think those Clippers teams should have won but were held back by a coach? They were good but never “omg I can’t believe they didn’t win a title” good.

Our roster is closer to the Boston teams he had success with. They are more talented than those Clippers teams and have a proven winner lead dog vs a talented head case in Embiid.

What I’m saying is I don’t really give a **** that he didn’t win with those teams. He won when he had the horses and didn’t when he didn’t. Good news is, we have the horses.

Hell yea, this is my attitude as well. Professionalism should return. We have a top 2 player in the world. Our front office DGAF and will do anything to win. Giannis won us a title before, I believe he can and will do it again. Better than Dirk, on par with Hakeem. Keep the faith!

[MiltownHawkeye]

Interested to see if Giannis will listen to Doc if he tells him to play off ball.

Or stop shooting threes…

or stop playing iso ball and running into walls...

*insert a third bad habit that Giannis hasn't really shown this year here*

[Ryan5UW]

Luxury tax bill alone this year is approaching $60 million. Edens/Haslam will not hesitate to eat another coaching contract this summer if it's necessary.

You keep saying this and I will keep saying the opposite. If it year 3 of us crapping the bed in the playoffs with only 2 rounds of gate revenue, do you pay the repeater tax again for a bunch of old stars who couldn't win with 2 champion coaches or do you trade Giannis for 100 picks, get nickels on the dollar for Dame, shed brook and start over while saving NINE figures? Honestly I probably do the later

You're both wrong.

You run the situation in MIlwaukee with Giannis to its conclusion. Spend all you can. Grab a title or two. And when it's over, you exercise your option to buy out Edens and move the team to Nashville in 2030.

Dammit... your poll got Doc hired, don't put this out there! What's the matter with you?

[MickeyDavis]

Assuming there was the usual game day shootaround this morning I'm not seeing any Bucks player quotes. Maybe Nehm wasn't there (he usually is) or the players aren't talking yet.

[ReasonablySober]

You guys should listen to the first hour of the Le Batard show this morning. They talk a lot about the firing and Doc, but the insight Amin Elhassan brought was very interesting.

He brought up a very, very good example from first hand experience. He was with the Suns when they brought in Terry Porter. Obviously we all know about his disaster in Milwaukee. But Porter was a former assistant, had some experience, former player. The Suns knew immediately that he didn't know what he was doing. Like, they knew in training camp. For a month and a half they tried to talk themselves into him working out but they knew it wasn't going to happen.

He did end up getting the axe in his first season, despite a winning record:

PHOENIX -- Terry Porter is out as coach of the Phoenix Suns. The failed effort to tame the Suns' offense went out the door with him.

The sputtering Suns fired Porter just four months into his first season as Phoenix coach and replaced him with assistant coach Alvin Gentry. Gentry promptly promised a return to the style so successful under Porter's predecessor, Mike D'Antoni.

"We are who we are and I think we have to go back to trying to establish a breakneck pace like we've had in the past," Gentry said at a news conference Monday announcing his promotion.

Phoenix (28-23) lost five of eight going into the All-Star break and trails Utah by one game for the eighth and final playoff spot in the West.

"We have enough talent that we should not be on the outside looking in right now," Gentry said.

[FrieAaron]

Or stop shooting threes…

or stop playing iso ball and running into walls...

*insert a third bad habit that Giannis hasn't really shown this year here*

Yeah, whether or not Griff has anything to do with it I have no idea, but Giannis is averaging his fewest 3PA per game since 2015-16 season.

[MrHoneycutt]

Luxury tax bill alone this year is approaching $60 million. Edens/Haslam will not hesitate to eat another coaching contract this summer if it's necessary.

You keep saying this and I will keep saying the opposite. If it year 3 of us crapping the bed in the playoffs with only 2 rounds of gate revenue, do you pay the repeater tax again for a bunch of old stars who couldn't win with 2 champion coaches or do you trade Giannis for 100 picks, get nickels on the dollar for Dame, shed brook and start over while saving NINE figures? Honestly I probably do the later

I see your point. But Haslam didn't buy in at age 69 to go through a rebuild a year later. I think we stay all in for at least 2 years. But an early exit against this year could be a death blow.

[drew881]

Curious to see if this move changes how we approach the trade deadline?

Probably not, because they've been ready to fire Griffin since Week -1.

[drew881]

You keep saying this and I will keep saying the opposite. If it year 3 of us crapping the bed in the playoffs with only 2 rounds of gate revenue, do you pay the repeater tax again for a bunch of old stars who couldn't win with 2 champion coaches or do you trade Giannis for 100 picks, get nickels on the dollar for Dame, shed brook and start over while saving NINE figures? Honestly I probably do the later

You're both wrong.

You run the situation in MIlwaukee with Giannis to its conclusion. Spend all you can. Grab a title or two. And when it's over, you exercise your option to buy out Edens and move the team to Nashville in 2030.

Dammit... your poll got Doc hired, don't put this out there! What's the matter with you?

Pressey is Edens. He just played the long game as a RealGM poster for 15 years before buying the team.

[rj_dio]

Three things I expect to see:

1. Lillard becoming by far the primary ball handler on non-transition possessions
2. Far higher percentage of halfcourt possessions beginning with GA screening for Dame
3. GA and Lopez camping in the post on defense to get back to an elite defensive rebounding and paint defensive team

Let’s turn our 2nd ranked offense into by far the best in the league and get our defense at least up to league average.

Add to that, getting Giannis to play off ball in crunch time, so teams can't hack him. Dame and Khris absolutely need to be the guys shooting crunch time free throws for us. Completely irresponsible to have Giannis deciding games at the line.

[tedbrogen]

Interested to see if Giannis will listen to Doc if he tells him to play off ball.

Or stop shooting threes…

or stop playing iso ball and running into walls...

He’s honestly been better at that and has been doing side ISO post ups a lot more rather than top of the key running into walls. It’s why they are second on Ortg despite not optimizing Dame/Giannis two man game and Midds on restrictions until recently.

But yeah, he could still be better at shot selection as has seemed to be falling back into old habits this month when the team really quit trying.

[Vasquectomy]

Or stop shooting threes…

or stop playing iso ball and running into walls...

*insert a third bad habit that Giannis hasn't really shown this year here*

umm, dad jokes? roster spots for brothers? Andy Reid?