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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1241 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:39 am

Great game. Go Dubs.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1242 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:41 am

The Jokic comparisons are absolutely hilarious. Jokic has possibly the greatest touch of any big man ever. Sengun is a spazz that can’t shoot outside of 10-feet by comparison. Him having a bunch of awesome defenders to cover up his deficiencies there also helps his perception a ton. Maybe he becomes a better shooter eventually, but I can’t understand how anyone watches him play and says “Yeah, that’s a guy I wanna build my team around”.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1243 » by blazza18 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:47 am

Good to see non Giannis guys can still make dumb fouls on three point shooters in crunch time.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1244 » by rilamann » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:47 am

Dillion is brain dead. And what a moronic challenge by Udoka.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1245 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:47 am

Ron Swanson wrote:The Jokic comparisons are absolutely hilarious. Jokic has possibly the greatest touch of any big man ever. Sengun is a spazz that can’t shoot outside of 10-feet by comparison. Him having a bunch of awesome defenders to cover up his deficiencies there also helps his perception a ton. Maybe he becomes a better shooter eventually, but I can’t understand how anyone watches him play and says “Yeah, that’s a guy I wanna build my team around”.


He's the age of a college senior.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1246 » by rilamann » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:49 am

blazza18 wrote:Good to see non Giannis guys can still make dumb fouls on three point shooters in crunch time.

Dillion/Udoka just pulled a Giannis/Doc.

Like you said, nice to see we're not the only ones who are this dumb.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1247 » by blazza18 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:54 am

No one on the Bucks gets that rebound Jimmy just got. That is a fact.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1248 » by Dick Tate » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:56 am

Reggie had to get himself in the Draymond mug shot. Jackass.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1249 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:57 am

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1250 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:57 am

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1251 » by machu46 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 4:59 am

Great game. It's apparent in almost every playoff matchup how much slower we are than basically everyone else lol.

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1252 » by rilamann » Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:01 am

Thank God the Bucks dodged the bullet of acquiring Jimmy Butler.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1253 » by tonyreyes123 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:04 am

rilamann wrote:Thank God the Bucks dodged the bullet of acquiring Jimmy Butler.



After we stole Dame from them Miami isn’t engaging us in a trade lmao
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1254 » by rilamann » Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:09 am

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rilamann wrote:Thank God the Bucks dodged the bullet of acquiring Jimmy Butler.



After we stole Dame from them Miami isn’t engaging us in a trade lmao



I would have traded Dame for Butler. Heat would have highly considered that deal.

MVP Giannis & Playoff Jimmy together would have absolutely clowned the Pacers.

Imagine Hail trying to talk **** to Jimmy......lmao. Jimmy ain't Dame. Not even close.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1255 » by Plossum » Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:16 am

Is it just me or is Minny going to wipe the floor with GSW or Houston? Warriors drew the best opponent they could have (after Memphis prob).
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1256 » by Bucksmaniac » Tue Apr 29, 2025 8:15 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Sengun is the fakest “All-Star” since FVV so it’s fitting that they’re now on the same team together.


Literally has better stats than Khris’ first All-Star selection in 2019 and has a better VORP than two of his three All-Star years, good team record too. Not sure how you can say that.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1257 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:02 pm

I think Sengun is a pretty solid player with room to grow but I also think he'd be a really difficult player to build around. I think we're seeing a lot of that in this series. His range is limited to like weird crafty shots up to like the free throw line and he has the Bobby Portis paradox of not really being able to guard like wing 4s or protect inside. Houston is literally propping him up with Steven Adams who can't really stay on the court when Golden State goes to certain lineups (or fouls him out of the game like we saw last night). His post up play is working when Golden State goes smaller, though it's not really a spamable attack unless he finds a mismatch. Draymond is kinda destroying him and his face up game which is usually pretty good looks useless. Their offense is **** in general though so it's tough to say they'd find much success elsewhere. FVV is Dame on his worst days, their wings are basically all cosplaying Taurean Prince and Jalen Green may as well be Gary Trent.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1258 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:18 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:The Jokic comparisons are absolutely hilarious. Jokic has possibly the greatest touch of any big man ever. Sengun is a spazz that can’t shoot outside of 10-feet by comparison. Him having a bunch of awesome defenders to cover up his deficiencies there also helps his perception a ton. Maybe he becomes a better shooter eventually, but I can’t understand how anyone watches him play and says “Yeah, that’s a guy I wanna build my team around”.


He’s only one of six prime assets I’d like back from Houston in a Giannis trade. The goal is to build a 50-win team and then figure it out from there. In my opinion the single best non-Flagg return we can get is from Houston if we can pull 22 year old Sengun and 22-year old Amen from them.

What makes him different from Sabonis is that he’s a little bit bigger and has a quick burst to the hoop. He had a few dunks last night that Sabonis doesn’t necessarily make. As for Greg Monroe, they aren’t remotely close.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1259 » by raferfenix » Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:27 pm

rilamann wrote:I would have traded Dame for Butler. Heat would have highly considered that deal.

MVP Giannis & Playoff Jimmy together would have absolutely clowned the Pacers.

Imagine Hail trying to talk **** to Jimmy......lmao. Jimmy ain't Dame. Not even close.


Also wondering to what extent this was discussed.

Of course Jimmy has his own injury issues much less locker room killing compunctions. And he needed an extension.

But the Bucks could have decided the ceiling on Giannis/Dame as a duo wasn't high enough to justify the risks.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1260 » by machu46 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 1:34 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:I think Sengun is a pretty solid player with room to grow but I also think he'd be a really difficult player to build around. I think we're seeing a lot of that in this series. His range is limited to like weird crafty shots up to like the free throw line and he has the Bobby Portis paradox of not really being able to guard like wing 4s or protect inside. Houston is literally propping him up with Steven Adams who can't really stay on the court when Golden State goes to certain lineups (or fouls him out of the game like we saw last night). His post up play is working when Golden State goes smaller, though it's not really a spamable attack unless he finds a mismatch. Draymond is kinda destroying him and his face up game which is usually pretty good looks useless. Their offense is **** in general though so it's tough to say they'd find much success elsewhere. FVV is Dame on his worst days, their wings are basically all cosplaying Taurean Prince and Jalen Green may as well be Gary Trent.


Agreed with all of that. Weird player and you can tell the players around him are helping to prop him up defensively but also make life a lot harder for him offensively. Love watching his footwork in the paint though. As you said, his actual shooting range is limited and he's unathletic and yet he's able to get to his spots offensively pretty effectively and he's a good passer as well.
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