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Post#1261 » by BigO » Mon May 12, 2025 4:10 pm

emunney wrote:I would almost guarantee that if we do end up trading Giannis, it will be for less than what anybody here says they'd trade him for.



That's because we have an idiot for a GM, not because we couldn't get more.
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Post#1262 » by BigO » Mon May 12, 2025 4:13 pm

Here's another MJ article that just popped up about Giannis and it has no new info (just like Sham's sham report), except that Giannis wasn't happy with the way the last two seasons have gone.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nba/bucks/2025/05/12/milwaukee-bucks-must-convince-giannis-antetokounmpo-they-will-contend-for-title-2025-offseason/83578383007/

Get him a competent coach and he will feel better.
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Post#1263 » by JimmyTheKid » Mon May 12, 2025 4:16 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Won't lie.

One of the reasons I've been going over the San Antonio scenario in my head for months is the morbid curiosity of just what a Giannis/Wemby/Fox looks like on the court. Like, wtf do you even do?


Probably get League Pass and buy some Spurs gear for my sons.
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Post#1264 » by wco81 » Mon May 12, 2025 4:17 pm

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wco81 wrote:But if Giannis asks to go to a different team, which don’t have as many picks to send back, does he have enough equity with the team and fan base that the team should honor his request?

Or no, team has to get the best return that it can, even if that burns bridges?

If it is 1-team, that is like a hold-out/hostage situation and I'm sorry Giannis, we are keeping you for two years vs trading you for pennies on the dollar.

If he says I want out and here are 3 teams, that is something we could work with an honor his request.

At the end of the day, though, AD got the Pelicans Lonzo Ball (Age 22), Brandon Ingram (Age 22), Josh Hart (Age 24) and 2019 1st (Hunter), 2022 1st (Dyson Daniels), and 2025 1st (#22). It did work out (Injuries, zion self-imploding, and some bad decisions hurt them.), but there was a time in pre-pandemic where that team had had prime Jrue, Ball, Ingraham, Hart, Zion, lots of picks and cap space. I could at least believe in that team.


I believe AD was younger, like maybe 27 or 28?

But he forced his way out and pretty much only wanted to go to the Lakers.

In a way, maybe having these GOAT franchise players on their original team is overrated.

If the Bucks traded Giannis, regardless of the return, they get something back and have a chance to start over.

For the Warriors, it is way too late to trade Curry and I'm glad they didn't. But he retires as a Warrior, after that the team hits bottom and have no assets to rebuild. Well they still have most of their picks but that's about it.
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Post#1265 » by JonHeist » Mon May 12, 2025 4:17 pm

If I wanna be recklessly optimistic this is giannis saying "I know he's your golfing buddy, but don't forget I prioritize wins over buddies" to the owners
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Post#1266 » by sidney lanier » Mon May 12, 2025 4:19 pm

So Shams says he's sending out feelers
No sourcing, just secret revealers
I'm tired of the haters
And Freak salivaters
And misinformation-based squealers

We've endured about five years of Giannis being photoshopped into other NBA jerseys by people simultaneously questioning his exceptional talent and coveting it.

No question we're at a crossroads now, but I expect Horst and friends to make some offseason moves that offer enough hope to give the change-averse Giannis a reason to stay.

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Post#1267 » by JonHeist » Mon May 12, 2025 4:22 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:Won't lie.

One of the reasons I've been going over the San Antonio scenario in my head for months is the morbid curiosity of just what a Giannis/Wemby/Fox looks like on the court. Like, wtf do you even do?


Probably get League Pass and buy some Spurs gear for my sons.


spurs win the lottery

bucks out: giannis

bucks in: #1(flagg), probably their other FRP (~#14), vassell, barnes,.. only question is how many of their other 6 future FRPs they could/would offer

only giannis trade that wouldn't make me puke
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Post#1268 » by soxperry » Mon May 12, 2025 4:23 pm

The nice thing about okc is that they have SGA at 26 years old. SGA, Giannis, Caruso and janitors makes you the favorite by a lot. So we should be asking for every good young player they have and they should feel pretty comfortable with that.
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Post#1269 » by Daver » Mon May 12, 2025 4:24 pm

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wco81 wrote:Bucks have exited in the first round in 3 consecutive postseasons.

What is the incentive to continue on this path, for either Giannis or the Bucks?

Without draft assets for several years, if he stayed the rest of the career, would the results be better?

Windhorst said teams like OKC and Brooklyn can offer the most, at least in terms of draft assets and maybe promising young players like JDub or Holmgren.

But if Giannis asks to go to a different team, which don’t have as many picks to send back, does he have enough equity with the team and fan base that the team should honor his request?

Or no, team has to get the best return that it can, even if that burns bridges?


And every year it was because of injury to Giannis twice and Dame in the playoffs. None of these teams playing now are juggernauts.

The difference this year is that Dame is not only out this year but next and no other assets are available.




Theres a shocker giannis is disappointed in how team ended last 3 seasons well 2 years no giannis this year no dame 22 no midds n a hc in bud who sh.. the bed in 19 n 22
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Post#1270 » by emunney » Mon May 12, 2025 4:25 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Won't lie.

One of the reasons I've been going over the San Antonio scenario in my head for months is the morbid curiosity of just what a Giannis/Wemby/Fox looks like on the court. Like, wtf do you even do?


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Post#1271 » by Matches Malone » Mon May 12, 2025 4:26 pm

Listening to shams talk about this on TV is hilarious. Stumbling through his words trying to think of bs off the top of his head. This just feels so fabricated on the day of the lottery. Maybe I'm being too tin-foil hat.
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Post#1272 » by ReasonablySober » Mon May 12, 2025 4:26 pm

Will say, looking forward to this lottery in a way I haven't since Oden and Durant.
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Post#1273 » by JayMKE » Mon May 12, 2025 4:27 pm

wco81 wrote:

If the Bucks traded Giannis, regardless of the return, they get something back and have a chance to start over.


Middling picks and prospects for Giannis is a good way to start over if by start over you mean the darkest of dark ages for this team.

It’s better to win ~40 games for next 5 years with Giannis than pretty much every trade I’ve seen
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Post#1274 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon May 12, 2025 4:27 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
Again, you're assuming that the Bucks won't get much back for Giannis in these scenarios, so the supporting cast looks much better for Giannis on his new team because they didn't have to give much up. OKC giving us Chet and picks would be disastrous. You don't think they could pry Jalen Williams away at least? If not... what's the point? Bucks have no incentive to be bad without their picks. Why settle?

Fine, give us an offer from those 3 teams you would take and see what is left. Like SGA/Giannis and bunch of vet mins is still going to be better than what we roll back with next year.
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Post#1275 » by emunney » Mon May 12, 2025 4:31 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Listening to shams talk about this on TV is hilarious. Stumbling through his words trying to think of bs off the top of his head. This just feels so fabricated on the day of the lottery. Maybe I'm being too tin-foil hat.


Being bad at talking isn't unusual for Shams, whether he's got solid information or not.
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Post#1276 » by PG Graveyard » Mon May 12, 2025 4:34 pm

Jaylin Williams,Hartenstein and Wiggins works. Add the picks we want and I would probably do that one.

Houston has stuff but it doesn’t start until Amen is involved.

San Antonio needs to win the lottery. I don’t really like anything else that much. I’m not that intrigued by Castle anyways.
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Post#1277 » by PG Graveyard » Mon May 12, 2025 4:34 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Will say, looking forward to this lottery in a way I haven't since Oden and Durant.


Shams did his job then
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Post#1278 » by jakecronus8 » Mon May 12, 2025 4:34 pm

JonHeist wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:Won't lie.

One of the reasons I've been going over the San Antonio scenario in my head for months is the morbid curiosity of just what a Giannis/Wemby/Fox looks like on the court. Like, wtf do you even do?


Probably get League Pass and buy some Spurs gear for my sons.


spurs win the lottery

bucks out: giannis

bucks in: #1(flagg), their other FRP (~#14), vassell, barnes,.. only question is how many of their other 6 future FRPs they could/would offer

only giannis trade that wouldn't make me puke


I'd try to let them keep Vassell in favor of Castle. Helps them more in the immediate. See if you can reroute him elsewhere. I wonder if Portland would send us Scoot + our picks/swaps back for Castle.

For San Antonio

Wembanyama
Giannis
Sochan
Vassell
Fox

That's flat out nasty.
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Post#1279 » by ReasonablySober » Mon May 12, 2025 4:35 pm

PG Graveyard wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Will say, looking forward to this lottery in a way I haven't since Oden and Durant.


Shams did his job then


Yup.
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Post#1280 » by machu46 » Mon May 12, 2025 4:45 pm

PG Graveyard wrote:Jaylin Williams,Hartenstein and Wiggins works. Add the picks we want and I would probably do that one.

Houston has stuff but it doesn’t start until Amen is involved.

San Antonio needs to win the lottery. I don’t really like anything else that much. I’m not that intrigued by Castle anyways.


It took me a minute to realize you mean Jalen Williams (the good wing) rather than Jaylin Williams (the decent bench player) and I nearly lost it lol.
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