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fansinceforever wrote:I was unaware that the Bucks '25 pick is top 4 protected.
If the next 11 games don't go our way then the tank should be in full force. You've gotta win 7/11 or we gut this thing other than Giannis until he says he wants out.
fansinceforever wrote:I was unaware that the Bucks '25 pick is top 4 protected.
If the next 11 games don't go our way then the tank should be in full force. You've gotta win 7/11 or we gut this thing other than Giannis until he says he wants out.
fansinceforever wrote:I was unaware that the Bucks '25 pick is top 4 protected.
If the next 11 games don't go our way then the tank should be in full force. You've gotta win 7/11 or we gut this thing other than Giannis until he says he wants out.
Bucksmaniac wrote:I'm sorry, but I'm starting to sour on Giannis
JayMKE wrote:also Dame is a bad creator, Giannis and Khris are both significantly better at creating for others. More Dame ball pounding would just mean more shots for Dame and less for everybody else. He is not in any way other than height a point guard.
John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
-Jragon- wrote:Chessboxer wrote:GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:taking dame off ball and letting giannis run point is about the worst idea. if we had westbrook and dame would we let westbrook be the pg? i mean if we did it would work better than giannis in that role.
dame needs to be the pg and giannis needs to be top 20 in ppg because it just happens.... he needs to go back to the old days and be top 20 in rpg, apg, bpg, and spg because he prioritizes it again.
we dont need giannis running point so he can lead the league in scoring ffs. we need him to lead a top 10 defense and dame to lead a top 10 offense. they are good enough that if they both took on those singular challenges(and doc was worth a **** on the rest of it)... we wouldnt be in this spot
The issue is that Dame is not a PG, does not create well and has some baffling turnovers. Giannis is actually a much better passer and playmaker than Dame is. He is the Bucks all time assist leader after all. Even Middleton is a better playmaker than Dame. Because of that, Dame needs to adjust his game to Giannis who is the teams' best player. The issue is Dame can't or won't do it. Wade adjusted to Lebron in Miami by becoming an off ball cutter/slasher/midrange threat.
Kenyon Martin pretty much ripped Dame's playmaking against Boston yesterday on Gils Arena, especially on the last possession where Giannis was wide open for a lob pass and he passed it to Prince. He said he would let that play slide if Dame was a rookie, but not a guy who is in the league over a decade. Arenas even joked that he could have thrown that pass. In fact, I can't recall one lob pass Dame has thrown to Giannis since he's been in Milwaukee and Giannis is one of the best finishers in league history.
Because Dame is AI .. what was the score at that time? We were down more than 2.. what was Prince shooting from deep before that shot? 3 - 3, right? He got the shot he wanted for the guy he wanted to take it... and it didnt work
Chessboxer wrote:GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:taking dame off ball and letting giannis run point is about the worst idea. if we had westbrook and dame would we let westbrook be the pg? i mean if we did it would work better than giannis in that role.
dame needs to be the pg and giannis needs to be top 20 in ppg because it just happens.... he needs to go back to the old days and be top 20 in rpg, apg, bpg, and spg because he prioritizes it again.
we dont need giannis running point so he can lead the league in scoring ffs. we need him to lead a top 10 defense and dame to lead a top 10 offense. they are good enough that if they both took on those singular challenges(and doc was worth a **** on the rest of it)... we wouldnt be in this spot
The issue is that Dame is not a PG, does not create well and has some baffling turnovers. Giannis is actually a much better passer and playmaker than Dame is. He is the Bucks all time assist leader after all. Even Middleton is a better playmaker than Dame. Because of that, Dame needs to adjust his game to Giannis who is the teams' best player. The issue is Dame can't or won't do it. Wade adjusted to Lebron in Miami by becoming an off ball cutter/slasher/midrange threat.
Kenyon Martin pretty much ripped Dame's playmaking against Boston yesterday on Gils Arena, especially on the last possession where Giannis was wide open for a lob pass and he passed it to Prince. He said he would let that play slide if Dame was a rookie, but not a guy who is in the league over a decade. Arenas even joked that he could have thrown that pass. In fact, I can't recall one lob pass Dame has thrown to Giannis since he's been in Milwaukee and Giannis is one of the best finishers in league history.
ShootingtheJ wrote:-Jragon- wrote:Chessboxer wrote:
The issue is that Dame is not a PG, does not create well and has some baffling turnovers. Giannis is actually a much better passer and playmaker than Dame is. He is the Bucks all time assist leader after all. Even Middleton is a better playmaker than Dame. Because of that, Dame needs to adjust his game to Giannis who is the teams' best player. The issue is Dame can't or won't do it. Wade adjusted to Lebron in Miami by becoming an off ball cutter/slasher/midrange threat.
Kenyon Martin pretty much ripped Dame's playmaking against Boston yesterday on Gils Arena, especially on the last possession where Giannis was wide open for a lob pass and he passed it to Prince. He said he would let that play slide if Dame was a rookie, but not a guy who is in the league over a decade. Arenas even joked that he could have thrown that pass. In fact, I can't recall one lob pass Dame has thrown to Giannis since he's been in Milwaukee and Giannis is one of the best finishers in league history.
Because Dame is AI .. what was the score at that time? We were down more than 2.. what was Prince shooting from deep before that shot? 3 - 3, right? He got the shot he wanted for the guy he wanted to take it... and it didnt work
Dame isn't AI. AI was completive. Dame is turbo Lou Williams.
I was talking to people in the league about the Bucks and I started hearing from people who were saying to me, 'You know the Bucks called us about trades,'" said Brian Windhorst on Monday's episode of ESPN's Hoop Collective.
"'And I go about who?
"'Not Giannis and not Dame,'" Windhorst relayed as the reply from the executive.
Windhorst added that an executive he was speaking on the phone with received a call from the Bucks during their call, which speaks to the extent of the team's efforts to find a trade.
"Not Dame is interesting," said Tim MacMahon. "And I wonder, and this is just a pure hypothetical: I wonder if they put Dame on the market, how much interest there would be?"
"There would be interest, sir," replied Windhorst.
Sigra wrote:I just saw that Giannis is NBA PPG leader right now
Yeah, he is going after that title this year. You can be sure about that.
Plossum wrote:I think we spend too much time analysing dame and giannis when it’s really everything else that is the problem. Ajax and Green do their jobs as role guys but they each have their big limitations in what they can offer the team. After those four (and Midds) we don’t have enough quality NBA players to contend for a title.
Depth is winning NBA titles atm. We don’t anywhere near enough of it.
Plossum wrote:For whoever gets the #1 pick this year would they do a Flagg for Giannis trade?
Curious about both players’ values atm.
ReasonablySober wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:-Jragon- wrote:
Because Dame is AI .. what was the score at that time? We were down more than 2.. what was Prince shooting from deep before that shot? 3 - 3, right? He got the shot he wanted for the guy he wanted to take it... and it didnt work
Dame isn't AI. AI was completive. Dame is turbo Lou Williams.
Did you mean competitive? Because it would be really funny to make an AI joke where the word is wrong.