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[-Jragon-]

LoL, trying to use Jimmy Butler to prove that midrange game in playoff does not work/help or is beneficial to have on the team. Laughable stuff.

Playoff Jimmy is in the paint getting hacked.. those weren't deep fadeaway 2s

[emunney]

Dames true shooting is kind of buoyed by his incredible ft shooting. Maybe in a regular season game or during certain possessions you would be mad that Khris is taking those over Dame trying to create but anybody who watches a lot of playoff basketball knows that a guy who can create and make tough mid rangers is really valuable. A good mixture of both is a great thing but obviously more Dame and Giannis handling.

I can see Dame struggling a lot to score efficiently come playoff time. Guys who hunt fouls usually have a hard time getting those in a playoff environment. Trae young, Derozan, Harden, Embiid etc…. A big reason why we see stars look so bad come playoff time.

KM had a good chance to show how effective some fadeaway 2s are in the playoffs the last 2 years.. how well did it work? It works in the regular season because defenses are playing soft. Post season they allow more bumping and all those fadeaways are short with no foul call and Khris crying all up and down the floor to the refs. What did work? Butler.. Jimmy Butler taking it at people and finding open 3 point shooters for shots that count for THREE points without getting pushed during the shot. That's what Giannis and Dame do.. they attack (drawing fouls/3 point plays), find open 3 shooters or take wide open shots when they have them. Khris only has value on offense in a series if he's drilling threes to the point where dudes have to jump at him and then the wide open 1 dribble mid range is fine... which is what I've been asking for all year. He has the talent to do it but mentally he still is fighting his own mind that he's Magic Johnson and can dribble through the whole league.

Two years ago he was injured and last year he put up 24ppg with Jimmy guarding him. We were 29 points/100 better in net rating with him on the court. Why do you keep bringing up the worst possible example for your argument?

[-Jragon-]

Study... tell me what you see.. how many shots outside the paint? How many times is he in the paint scoring, drawing fouls or finding open shooters... like where were you when the games were on?

https://youtu.be/zYNxaX1nxu0?si=SYpq8k7KEXWo0KF_

[Jez2983]

If anyone has an issue with Midds it certainly shouldn't be about his offensive play, apart from the silly turnovers he's always had. He remains one of the best offensive players in the world.

[-Jragon-]

Dames true shooting is kind of buoyed by his incredible ft shooting. Maybe in a regular season game or during certain possessions you would be mad that Khris is taking those over Dame trying to create but anybody who watches a lot of playoff basketball knows that a guy who can create and make tough mid rangers is really valuable. A good mixture of both is a great thing but obviously more Dame and Giannis handling.

I can see Dame struggling a lot to score efficiently come playoff time. Guys who hunt fouls usually have a hard time getting those in a playoff environment. Trae young, Derozan, Harden, Embiid etc…. A big reason why we see stars look so bad come playoff time.

KM had a good chance to show how effective some fadeaway 2s are in the playoffs the last 2 years.. how well did it work? It works in the regular season because defenses are playing soft. Post season they allow more bumping and all those fadeaways are short with no foul call and Khris crying all up and down the floor to the refs. What did work? Butler.. Jimmy Butler taking it at people and finding open 3 point shooters for shots that count for THREE points without getting pushed during the shot. That's what Giannis and Dame do.. they attack (drawing fouls/3 point plays), find open 3 shooters or take wide open shots when they have them. Khris only has value on offense in a series if he's drilling threes to the point where dudes have to jump at him and then the wide open 1 dribble mid range is fine... which is what I've been asking for all year. He has the talent to do it but mentally he still is fighting his own mind that he's Magic Johnson and can dribble through the whole league.

Two years ago he was injured and last year he put up 24ppg with Jimmy guarding him. We were 29 points/100 better in net rating with him on the court. Why do you keep bringing up the worst possible example for your argument?

If we were using Midds as our best player... and we lost every game... what does that tell you? Isn't that empty stats? Study what actually wins:

https://youtu.be/zYNxaX1nxu0?si=SYpq8k7KEXWo0KF_

Study men... we have a lot of work to do and I need us on board with attacking from the paint ir 3 line.. study

[-Jragon-]

If anyone has an issue with Midds it certainly shouldn't be about his offensive play, apart from the silly turnovers he's always had. He remains one of the best offensive players in the world.

Study what wins.. not what's pretty and aesthetic

https://youtu.be/zYNxaX1nxu0?si=SYpq8k7KEXWo0KF_

Dame can do that.. let him

[emunney]

Study... tell me what you see.. how many shots outside the paint? How many times is he in the paint scoring, drawing fouls or finding open shooters... like where were you when the games were on?

https://youtu.be/zYNxaX1nxu0?si=SYpq8k7KEXWo0KF_

Now do Middleton.

[emunney]

KM had a good chance to show how effective some fadeaway 2s are in the playoffs the last 2 years.. how well did it work? It works in the regular season because defenses are playing soft. Post season they allow more bumping and all those fadeaways are short with no foul call and Khris crying all up and down the floor to the refs. What did work? Butler.. Jimmy Butler taking it at people and finding open 3 point shooters for shots that count for THREE points without getting pushed during the shot. That's what Giannis and Dame do.. they attack (drawing fouls/3 point plays), find open 3 shooters or take wide open shots when they have them. Khris only has value on offense in a series if he's drilling threes to the point where dudes have to jump at him and then the wide open 1 dribble mid range is fine... which is what I've been asking for all year. He has the talent to do it but mentally he still is fighting his own mind that he's Magic Johnson and can dribble through the whole league.

Two years ago he was injured and last year he put up 24ppg with Jimmy guarding him. We were 29 points/100 better in net rating with him on the court. Why do you keep bringing up the worst possible example for your argument?

If we were using Midds as our best player... and we lost every game... what does that tell you? Isn't that empty stats? Study what actually wins:

https://youtu.be/zYNxaX1nxu0?si=SYpq8k7KEXWo0KF_

Study men... we have a lot of work to do and I need us on board with attacking from the paint ir 3 line.. study

Empty stats isn't "the team wins until you come off the floor". Also, has anybody advocated for making Middleton the #1 option? The dude has nothing left to prove. He's had multiple 20 point *quarters* deep in the playoffs. The point you're trying to make is in vicious conflict with reality.

[DingleJerry]

LoL, trying to use Jimmy Butler to prove that midrange game in playoff does not work/help or is beneficial to have on the team. Laughable stuff.

Playoff Jimmy is in the paint getting hacked.. those weren't deep fadeaway 2s

jimmy is a midrange beast and is normally poor from 3 other than having a crazy hot streak vs us at 3 last year. Again, comical that you don't see how bad an example this is

[-Jragon-]

Study... tell me what you see.. how many shots outside the paint? How many times is he in the paint scoring, drawing fouls or finding open shooters... like where were you when the games were on?

https://youtu.be/zYNxaX1nxu0?si=SYpq8k7KEXWo0KF_

Now do Middleton.

There's no highlights.. we got swept every game because we didn't have a wing that can do that..

[Jez2983]

If anyone has an issue with Midds it certainly shouldn't be about his offensive play, apart from the silly turnovers he's always had. He remains one of the best offensive players in the world.

Study what wins.. not what's pretty and aesthetic

https://youtu.be/zYNxaX1nxu0?si=SYpq8k7KEXWo0KF_

Dame can do that.. let him

What are you actually arguing here? Like what is the major piece of enlightenment you are trying to bestow upon us???

[-Jragon-]

LoL, trying to use Jimmy Butler to prove that midrange game in playoff does not work/help or is beneficial to have on the team. Laughable stuff.

Playoff Jimmy is in the paint getting hacked.. those weren't deep fadeaway 2s

jimmy is a midrange beast and is normally poor from 3 other than having a crazy hot streak vs us at 3 last year. Again, comical that you don't see how bad an example this is

You didn't study... he wasn't at the 3.. he was in the paint scoring or passing to open 3 shooters. The 3 shooter spread the floor and didn't try to dribble around. They spread the floor for Jimmy to score in the paint, get fouled, or find open shooters. KM role in this should be the shooter.. Dame should be the prime time attack dude with Giannis.

[-Jragon-]

If anyone has an issue with Midds it certainly shouldn't be about his offensive play, apart from the silly turnovers he's always had. He remains one of the best offensive players in the world.

Study what wins.. not what's pretty and aesthetic

https://youtu.be/zYNxaX1nxu0?si=SYpq8k7KEXWo0KF_

Dame can do that.. let him

What are you actually arguing here? Like what is the major piece of enlightenment you are trying to bestow upon us???

Nevermind

[-Jragon-]

+1s for everyone.. resume the trade Bobby for more guards ideas

[DingleJerry]

Playoff Jimmy is in the paint getting hacked.. those weren't deep fadeaway 2s

jimmy is a midrange beast and is normally poor from 3 other than having a crazy hot streak vs us at 3 last year. Again, comical that you don't see how bad an example this is

You didn't study... he wasn't at the 3.. he was in the paint scoring or passing to open 3 shooters. The 3 shooter spread the floor and didn't try to dribble around. They spread the floor for Jimmy to score in the paint, get fouled, or find open shooters. KM role in this should be the shooter.. Dame should be the prime time attack dude with Giannis.

Yea, that's what we've all been saying for months.

Khris is a great 3 pt shooter and he can shoot contested midranges needed in playoff ramped up defense situations. Which is what Jimmy is great at too, but yea he's a much better ball handler

Everyone knows 3s are better than 2. Everyone here knows Dame and Giannis are the best at being the lead attacker. You are arguing with yourself and using just nonsensical examples to bitc about km

[emunney]

Study... tell me what you see.. how many shots outside the paint? How many times is he in the paint scoring, drawing fouls or finding open shooters... like where were you when the games were on?

https://youtu.be/zYNxaX1nxu0?si=SYpq8k7KEXWo0KF_

Now do Middleton.

There's no highlights.. we got swept every game because we didn't have a wing that can do that..

This doesn't change any underlying point but it's funny that you keep accusing people of not paying attention or watching the games but also don't remember that we didn't get swept.

[msiris]

If anyone has an issue with Midds it certainly shouldn't be about his offensive play, apart from the silly turnovers he's always had. He remains one of the best offensive players in the world.

So your putting him up there with the likes of Curry ,Giannis, Luka and Embiid? Love this board. One guy rates him like a scrub and another rates him like one of the all time greats Lol He has never averaged more than 20.9 ppg in a season.

[blazza18]

A strong argument can be made that Lillard and Giannis running the pick-and-roll/pop should be something that happens almost every possession. If Rivers implements that change, it could be trouble for the rest of the league.

[GoldenAntlers]

LoL, trying to use Jimmy Butler to prove that midrange game in playoff does not work/help or is beneficial to have on the team. Laughable stuff.

Playoff Jimmy is in the paint getting hacked.. those weren't deep fadeaway 2s

I feel like Jimmy was hitting EVERYTHING.

[M-C-G]

A strong argument can be made that Lillard and Giannis running the pick-and-roll/pop should be something that happens almost every possession. If Rivers implements that change, it could be trouble for the rest of the league.

What about a double screen with Lopez and Giannis, or adding Midds as the second screener? Could be fantastic come playoffs


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