Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

dedned · Post #1321 » by **dedned** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:00 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
Ayt wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Like I said, I don't care. One way or another, the owners have **** up.

How?

They didn't fire their existing coach before going after the coach of another team.

I understand wanting to give the new guys the benefit of the doubt, but wake the **** up.

Larry Drew can eat like 5 *****. Who cares?

emunney · Post #1322 » by **emunney** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:01 am

ElPeregrino wrote:
Paradise wrote:He doesn't preach rebounding.

Thanks for your input.

I find this interesting for a guy who, at 6-4, led the Nets in rebounding for four straight seasons.

Yeah, but he's just naturally a ball hawk. I don't think he got that from coaching.

trwi7 · Post #1323 » by **trwi7** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:03 am

VooDoo7 wrote:Tom Pipines is going off on this....he wants no part of Kidd. Lol..

Makes me feel a lot better about having Kidd as coach.

LittleRooster · Post #1324 » by **LittleRooster** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:03 am

I really had hope that they would build this the right way by hiring a POBO, who hires a gm, who hires a coach

Bucks_MacGyver · Post #1325 » by **Bucks_MacGyver** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:03 am

Gardner just burned woefel..... Ha

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JackSIKMA43 · Post #1326 » by **JackSIKMA43** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:04 am

dedned wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Ayt wrote:
How?

They didn't fire their existing coach before going after the coach of another team.

I understand wanting to give the new guys the benefit of the doubt, but wake the **** up.

Larry Drew can eat like 5 *****. Who cares?

In theory, I agree. However, Lasry and Edens are very likely going to need to resort to damage control. Spin all this how you want to, but much like wildcatters for oil back in the day ... they are running roughshod over anything and anyone to get what they want. Public perception of these guys might not be all rosy.

arizonabuck · Post #1327 » by **arizonabuck** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:05 am

Hiring a basketball coach is the GM's job, not the owners. Bob Harlan had it right. Hire Ron Wolf, let him run the show. So the owners are going to shove a coach down the GM's throat?

JayMKE · Post #1328 » by **JayMKE** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:06 am

I'm not sure what 'not preaching rebounding' means, like he wants to get out and go? I'd like that with our players. I would think they that this would be more because the Nets are a poor rebounding team more than anything. Teletovic, Blache, Lopez, 75 year old KG...

TheWig · Post #1329 » by **TheWig** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:08 am

Bucks_MacGyver wrote:Gardner just burned woefel..... Ha

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what did he say?

JayMKE · Post #1330 » by **JayMKE** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:09 am

JackSIKMA43 wrote:
dedned wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
They didn't fire their existing coach before going after the coach of another team.

I understand wanting to give the new guys the benefit of the doubt, but wake the **** up.

Larry Drew can eat like 5 *****. Who cares?

In theory, I agree. However, Lasry and Edens are very likely going to need to resort to damage control. Spin all this how you want to, but much like wildcatters for oil back in the day ... they are running roughshod over anything and anyone to get what they want. Public perception of these guys might not be all rosy.

meh who cares, Herb fired hometown hero Terry Porter after the draft too after saying he'd be back and nobody really cared. There were no illusions here, we knew that Drew and Hammond were on borrowed time since the ownership change.

LittleRooster · Post #1331 » by **LittleRooster** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:11 am

I don't think anyone cares about Drew's hurt feelings but it's the way the owners are going about things that's troubling

JBucks · Post #1332 » by **JBucks** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:11 am

Regardless of what happens in the next 24 hours, is it safe to say Drew won't be back? That's what I care about most.

glenn · Post #1333 » by **glenn** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:12 am

No one here knows what the owners have told Drew. Period.

trwi7 · Post #1334 » by **trwi7** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:13 am

LittleRooster wrote:I don't think anyone cares about Drew's hurt feelings but it's the way the owners are going about things that's troubling

Going aggressively after the guy they covet?

LittleRooster · Post #1335 » by **LittleRooster** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:13 am

trwi7 wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:I don't think anyone cares about Drew's hurt feelings but it's the way the owners are going about things that's troubling

Going aggressively after the guy they covet?

Not hiring a gm to make that decision

machu46 · Post #1336 » by **machu46** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:14 am

My personal beliefs on all this:

1. This will be done by the end of Monday, or it won't be getting done at all. Brooklyn will want this done with before the 1st of July so that they can focus on free agency/re-signing their guys if I had to guess.

2. It will be a 2nd round pick and cash to get it done. If Hammond of all people is the one playing hard ball, saying that we'll walk away if Brooklyn doesn't take a 2nd round pick, I feel like we really aren't **** around lol. The absolute worst case scenario would be a 1st round pick that's something like 1-20 protected, where if Kidd is actually able to lead us to a slot in the 21-30 range, he'll have been worth the pick.

3. I don't think tampering is really a concern. My gut feeling is that if Brooklyn had a case against us, they would have made it known by now. And if we had tampered, we wouldn't be being so aggressive in this, saying that if they don't take a 2nd round pick, we'll simply walk away and risk getting penalized.

Obviously we'll see how things actually play out, but I fully expect this to be resolved by the end of the day Monday.

wichmae · Post #1337 » by **wichmae** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:15 am

trwi7 wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:I don't think anyone cares about Drew's hurt feelings but it's the way the owners are going about things that's troubling

Going aggressively after the guy they covet?

Yeah Im failing to see the issue here. The asked for and got permission to go after the guy they want. Now were worried about hurting Drews feelings? A guy this entire board wanted fired?

VooDoo7 · Post #1338 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:15 am

LittleRooster wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:I don't think anyone cares about Drew's hurt feelings but it's the way the owners are going about things that's troubling

Going aggressively after the guy they covet?

Not hiring a gm to make that decision

Or not firing your current HC first.

Lots of silliness in all of this.

[MIKE C] · Post #1339 » by **[MIKE C]** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:16 am

I don't think Lasry and Edens were interviewing various HC candidates while keeping Drew employed. I think they just jumped on an opportunity that suddenly came up. They couldn't fire Drew first before they talked to Kidd because they have no idea if they'll be able to agree to compensation for Kidd. I'm having a hard time getting worked up about this. Drew knows what's up. He knows his days are numbered. If he wants out now so he can pursue other opportunities he can make that request.

VooDoo7 · Post #1340 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:17 am

I just don't get it. There's no way Kidd will be returning to the Nets, right? So why in the world would we give up anything for his services? Let them fire him, and then hire him.

Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?