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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1341 » by Ayt » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:08 pm

Lin is actually a good player who could potentially be the starting PG going forward for whichever team acquires him so it is a little different than Jack. My guess would be that Houston can trade him with just a 1st or a player.

Houston can also add 3M to any deal to help offset Lin's actual salary a bit as well instead of giving up another asset.
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Post#1342 » by Newz » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:10 pm

Ayt wrote:Lin is actually a good player who could potentially be the starting PG going forward for whichever team acquires him so it is a little different than Jack. My guess would be that Houston can trade him with just a 1st or a player.


I would take any combination of:

Lin + Pelican's/HOU 1st
Lin + Capela
Lin + Capela + Pelican's/HOU 1st

Over maxing out Eric Bledsoe.
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Post#1343 » by raferfenix » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:12 pm

I like the idea of assets for Lin but wasn't there cold water thrown on he idea that our owners are willing to shell out $15 million for that?

In my mind Lin seems likely to step it up in a contract year so I'd say it'd be worth the risk...but it's not my money.


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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1344 » by raferfenix » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:16 pm

The Suns have a history of making moves based on saving money that have come back to haunt them.

I could see Bledsoe ending up in that category.

If they're gunning to acquire a superstar they might prefer to save the cap space to give it another go next summer (or the summer after if Lebron signs a 2 year deal) too.


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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1345 » by The Wet Whistle » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:18 pm

I've done a 180 on my opinion of Lin. Used to think he was a god awful basketball player. I'm starting to think he's pretty solid. I'd entertain the idea of re-signing him next season if we trade for him. Obviously the contract would have to be worth way less than he currently makes but I think he'd be a good fit with the guys we've got.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1346 » by The Wet Whistle » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:20 pm

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Ayt wrote:Lin is actually a good player who could potentially be the starting PG going forward for whichever team acquires him so it is a little different than Jack. My guess would be that Houston can trade him with just a 1st or a player.


I would take any combination of:

Lin + Pelican's/HOU 1st
Lin + Capela
Lin + Capela + Pelican's/HOU 1st

Over maxing out Eric Bledsoe.


I'm not a fan of Capela. I'd take him as an asset but I'd prefer picks over him
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Post#1347 » by HurricaneKid » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:24 pm

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JJack is on that deal through 16-17 and Lin expires next year, so the available return on those two aren't very comparable unfortunately.


How so? These teams are trying to clear cap space right now.


a) I'm just pointing out that the return for taking on an expiring vs. a deal that runs for 3 seasons is going to be relatively less.
b) Lin is arguably a better player and commodity at pg than Jack
c)The 76ers could offer to take him for less return, so there's also the matter of competition. As it's been pointed out Hinkie goes back with Morey.


Jack's deal is 3 years but the last year is a team option. So its really ~12M over the next two years vs 15M just this year.

I can't believe so many people are onboard with Lin. I'm good with taking his expiring to get a pick or Capela. But I'm not ok with him being a mid/long term answer at PG. Not at all.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1348 » by europa » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:30 pm

HurricaneKid wrote:I can't believe so many people are onboard with Lin. I'm good with taking his expiring to get a pick or Capela. But I'm not ok with him being a mid/long term answer at PG. Not at all.


Ditto. My only interest in acquiring Lin would be as a means to dump Ilyasova, Mayo or Delfino which of course the Rockets wouldn't do.

For me, it's Bledsoe or bust. If the Bucks can't get him, roll with Wolters and re-sign Sessions and look to find a PG next year unless Wolters really busts out in a big way.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1349 » by tski1972 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:33 pm

Lin would never finish the season as a Buck. You snag him now with the additional asset and you ship him to a contender at the trade deadline.

It makes too much sense to do, therefore the Bucks won't do it.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1350 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:34 pm

HurricaneKid wrote:I can't believe so many people are onboard with Lin. I'm good with taking his expiring to get a pick or Capela. But I'm not ok with him being a mid/long term answer at PG. Not at all.


I didn't imply that I'm for acquiring Lin without assets, just that he should cost Houston less than Jack cost Cleveland(significanly less than Emunney suggested), whether or not you/I like it.
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Post#1351 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:38 pm

europa wrote:For me, it's Bledsoe or bust. If the Bucks can't get him, roll with Wolters and re-sign Sessions and look to find a PG next year unless Wolters really busts out in a big way.


Only if Kidd can make him play PG like rookie-sophmore Ramon. Otherwise, that gets a whopping no thank-you.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1352 » by raferfenix » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:38 pm

I don't see us resigning Sessions or standing pat at PG. Not after all the talk about Knight being a SG and with the rumors precipitating this thread.

Maybe we do something out of left field -- what other PG's might we be targeting?

However which way we could use a facilitator to help Giannis and Parker develop. Don't see Wolters + a scrub cutting it in that department.


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Post#1353 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:41 pm

I'd be on board 100% with taking on Lin with assets.
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Post#1354 » by LUKE23 » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:42 pm

Who cares about Lin the player? I want the asset (s).
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Post#1355 » by Bernman » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:42 pm

I'm not concerned at all with Lin making 15 million next year. A good chunk if not all of that should be made up in the revenue he generates by being kind of Chinese and playing an entertaining brand of basketball.

The only bother would be his 8-9 million dollar cap number hurting our flexibility the rest of this offseason, and maybe at the deadline, although like some said we could potentially flip him as an expiring or rejuvenated player.

The Pelicans pick + Motiejunas would be enough for me to get over that bother. I don't see Morey giving up both Capela and a 1st (either of them) knowing how much he values collecting assets. He'd just deal with Hinkie then or find another suitor. We should not get greedy here if we expect to come away with something of worth this offseason. Don't want to be the last person standing in musical chairs.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1356 » by europa » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:43 pm

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europa wrote:For me, it's Bledsoe or bust. If the Bucks can't get him, roll with Wolters and re-sign Sessions and look to find a PG next year unless Wolters really busts out in a big way.


Only if Kidd can make him play PG like rookie-sophmore Ramon. Otherwise, that gets a whopping no thank-you.


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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1357 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:43 pm

It'd be cool if we could swing Lin somewhere else right away for more assets.
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Post#1358 » by Bernman » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:44 pm

tski1972 wrote:Lin would never finish the season as a Buck. You snag him now with the additional asset and you ship him to a contender at the trade deadline.

It makes too much sense to do, therefore the Bucks won't do it.


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Post#1359 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:45 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:It'd be cool if we could swing Lin somewhere else right away for more assets.

Nash, Marshall and a first would be cool.
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Re: Bucks looking at Lin, Bledsoe and Vasquez 

Post#1360 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Jul 9, 2014 7:47 pm

europa wrote:I like Ramon. I want him back. :)


I like him too but the way that Larry Drew was playing him last season and watching his less than stellar chemistry with Giannis was pretty off-putting (mind for no visibly good reason).
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