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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1341 » by MickeyDavis » Thu May 1, 2025 8:19 pm

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1342 » by pifhluk23 » Thu May 1, 2025 8:32 pm

With the talk already of the Celtics making moves this off-season to dodge the 2nd apron really makes me mad that we attached assets to get rid of Middleton. Expiring contracts are going to be worth so much more in this CBA.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1343 » by MickeyDavis » Thu May 1, 2025 9:12 pm

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1344 » by BigO » Thu May 1, 2025 9:15 pm

Bobby was decent after the last couple months of his season and into the playoffs. More playable than Brook in that match-up & probably in general. But into his 30's now, w/ him forcing us to play one flawed style of d (switching), having posted mediocre efficiency in the playoffs, the shenanigans, & derisive comments about the city; I think I'm good.

If part of the retool is to bring him back & elevate him to full-time starter because of nostalgia or we can't do anything else w/ cap constraints, I become even stronger in preference to trade Giannis & rebuild. Cuz we're getting diminishing returns on what already had questionable efficacy.[/quote]

I'm definitely on the trade Bobby side as well. He's one of our few assets someone else might actually want, hopefully can turn him and his salary into a more athletic/wing type person[/quote]


There's been some bad posts, but the two above have to rank right up there. There's so much wrong with these posts that to keep it short, I'll only [b]take the top five:

1) BP will opt out, as he should, after being grossly underpaid for the last several years. He can just sign elsewhere.

2) BP was the third most valuable Buck this season and after Dame went down, he was the second most valuable. Efficient scorer (although I'll grant he didn't have an efficient series against the Pacers) and the only Buck after Dame and Giannis who regularly was doubled by other teams.

3) As Marques pointed out, he was part of the best defensive lineup the Bucks had. He has played good defense.

4) One of the best defensive rebounders in the NBA and the only Buck, other than Giannis, who is a good rebounder. And no, his rebounds aren't fake rebounds, which might rank as the dumbest comment I've read on here.


5) I have no idea what derisive comments about Milwaukee he supposedly made, but historically, he has been of the city's greatest ambassadors.
As to shananigans, just stop it. He's an emotional guy, but that makes him one of the teams leaders. I don't want to get rid of that. Too many marshmallows masquerading as posters.

Let me know if you want 5 more reasons. Bottom line is that if he leaves, there is another huge void in scoring and rebounding and many other things.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1345 » by German Athens » Thu May 1, 2025 9:29 pm

I think the Bobby Milwaukee things might have been around the time of the Kuzma trade, and, if I remember correctly, it was just something along the lines of there not being much to do in Milwaukee.

Bobby loves it here, and it’s a non-story, but some took it the wrong way.

It’s very much the same energy of those who told ESPN, when they actively called it a garbage city, “no, we’re actually a nice city with nice people” or whatever it was.

The ESPN **** was the worst, but the response was also super lame. From out the locker we came.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1346 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu May 1, 2025 9:36 pm

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He's a dumbass but the whole thing is a nothing burger at the end of the day. he didn't assault anyone, didn't sexually harass anyone, and otherwise seems like a decent father. he embarrassed himself but there are a lot worse father's out there. I would have been fine with having his credentials removed and stuck in a suite. it's an easy distraction for bucks fans to get pissed at him instead of our roster.

Would've been nice if his 'punishment' was doing an extension of Mariah's diaper donation in Osh Kosh with his kid. since I acted like a child, I'll do an event to help kids type message for some humility and bringing some good out of it.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1348 » by DingleJerry » Thu May 1, 2025 11:22 pm

BigO wrote:Bobby was decent after the last couple months of his season and into the playoffs. More playable than Brook in that match-up & probably in general. But into his 30's now, w/ him forcing us to play one flawed style of d (switching), having posted mediocre efficiency in the playoffs, the shenanigans, & derisive comments about the city; I think I'm good.

If part of the retool is to bring him back & elevate him to full-time starter because of nostalgia or we can't do anything else w/ cap constraints, I become even stronger in preference to trade Giannis & rebuild. Cuz we're getting diminishing returns on what already had questionable efficacy.


I'm definitely on the trade Bobby side as well. He's one of our few assets someone else might actually want, hopefully can turn him and his salary into a more athletic/wing type person[/quote]


There's been some bad posts, but the two above have to rank right up there. There's so much wrong with these posts that to keep it short, I'll only [b]take the top five:

1) BP will opt out, as he should, after being grossly underpaid for the last several years. He can just sign elsewhere.

2) BP was the third most valuable Buck this season and after Dame went down, he was the second most valuable. Efficient scorer (although I'll grant he didn't have an efficient series against the Pacers) and the only Buck after Dame and Giannis who regularly was doubled by other teams.

3) As Marques pointed out, he was part of the best defensive lineup the Bucks had. He has played good defense.

4) One of the best defensive rebounders in the NBA and the only Buck, other than Giannis, who is a good rebounder. And no, his rebounds aren't fake rebounds, which might rank as the dumbest comment I've read on here.


5) I have no idea what derisive comments about Milwaukee he supposedly made, but historically, he has been of the city's greatest ambassadors.
As to shananigans, just stop it. He's an emotional guy, but that makes him one of the teams leaders. I don't want to get rid of that. Too many marshmallows masquerading as posters.

Let me know if you want 5 more reasons. Bottom line is that if he leaves, there is another huge void in scoring and rebounding and many other things.
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LOL, what is crazy about my take to call it the worst one on the board? We have a 30ish year old who's good and one of our only assets, I'd be trying to get something for him when I can. I'm not bashing him, I'm saying he's fine/good and that's why I think we can get something good for him with a skillset that we need more. We really don't have anything else anyone would want, he's our only chip.

But yea if he opts and just leaves then that's it. I suppose if you can work out some kind of sign/trade that would be nice to get something back, again hopefully someone who's more of a wing/athlete. Which is what I'm talking about, embracing Giannis as the big and getting more athletic, younger, shooters around him. If they can't find anything that works, yea Bobby is fine to keep around as the other big on the team who makes any legit money. I don't blame him if he cashes out wherever he can though. But really, my main point is he's the only thing we have that anyone would want, so not many routs to do anything without him.

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1349 » by MickeyDavis » Fri May 2, 2025 12:03 am

Brunson, Luka and Porzingas would make a great big 3.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1350 » by MickeyDavis » Fri May 2, 2025 12:37 am

What a half by Beasley
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1351 » by Frank Nova » Fri May 2, 2025 12:48 am

MickeyDavis wrote:What a half by Beasley


Crazy to think how much 1 year difference makes for a roster. Beasley off the bench could’ve saved that whole series vs Indiana for us. He’s been lights out and on a mission for Detroit while we had to suffer through Taurean Prince and Kyle Kuzma being total negatives for 5 games. The Bucks aren’t a Malik Beasley away but he sure would’ve helped way more than those 2 bums.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1352 » by chonestown » Fri May 2, 2025 12:57 am

I go for the syntax and the golden oldies (Heidl), but the venerable BigO has integrated the scattershot quoting and typeface manipulation of real general manager's greatest poster. Just breathtaking work. Champions continue to be made in the off season.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1353 » by BigO » Fri May 2, 2025 12:59 am

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BigO wrote:Bobby was decent after the last couple months of his season and into the playoffs. More playable than Brook in that match-up & probably in general. But into his 30's now, w/ him forcing us to play one flawed style of d (switching), having posted mediocre efficiency in the playoffs, the shenanigans, & derisive comments about the city; I think I'm good.

If part of the retool is to bring him back & elevate him to full-time starter because of nostalgia or we can't do anything else w/ cap constraints, I become even stronger in preference to trade Giannis & rebuild. Cuz we're getting diminishing returns on what already had questionable efficacy.


I'm definitely on the trade Bobby side as well. He's one of our few assets someone else might actually want, hopefully can turn him and his salary into a more athletic/wing type person



There's been some bad posts, but the two above have to rank right up there. There's so much wrong with these posts that to keep it short, I'll only [b]take the top five:

1) BP will opt out, as he should, after being grossly underpaid for the last several years. He can just sign elsewhere.

2) BP was the third most valuable Buck this season and after Dame went down, he was the second most valuable. Efficient scorer (although I'll grant he didn't have an efficient series against the Pacers) and the only Buck after Dame and Giannis who regularly was doubled by other teams.

3) As Marques pointed out, he was part of the best defensive lineup the Bucks had. He has played good defense.

4) One of the best defensive rebounders in the NBA and the only Buck, other than Giannis, who is a good rebounder. And no, his rebounds aren't fake rebounds, which might rank as the dumbest comment I've read on here.


5) I have no idea what derisive comments about Milwaukee he supposedly made, but historically, he has been of the city's greatest ambassadors.
As to shananigans, just stop it. He's an emotional guy, but that makes him one of the teams leaders. I don't want to get rid of that. Too many marshmallows masquerading as posters.

Let me know if you want 5 more reasons. Bottom line is that if he leaves, there is another huge void in scoring and rebounding and many other things.
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LOL, what is crazy about my take to call it the worst one on the board? We have a 30ish year old who's good and one of our only assets, I'd be trying to get something for him when I can. I'm not bashing him, I'm saying he's fine/good and that's why I think we can get something good for him with a skillset that we need more. We really don't have anything else anyone would want, he's our only chip.

But yea if he opts and just leaves then that's it. I suppose if you can work out some kind of sign/trade that would be nice to get something back, again hopefully someone who's more of a wing/athlete. Which is what I'm talking about, embracing Giannis as the big and getting more athletic, younger, shooters around him. If they can't find anything that works, yea Bobby is fine to keep around as the other big on the team who makes any legit money. I don't blame him if he cashes out wherever he can though. But really, my main point is he's the only thing we have that anyone would want, so not many routs to do anything without him.

Buckle up, its gonna be a long offseason.[/quote]

I get your point, but you implied that you agreed with all the erroneous assumptions the other poster put forward.

And at this point, if you agree the Bucks have limited assets and a dearth of talent, why would you want to let one of your better players leave?

Right now, BP, in my view, is the second best player who will return next season (not counting Dame). That's not a good situation when BP is your second, or even third, best player.

But getting rid of him compounds the problem. You then have to find a scorer and rebounder to make up for losing him AND try to get more talent in the front court and at guard.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1354 » by BigO » Fri May 2, 2025 1:02 am

chonestown wrote:I go for the syntax and the golden oldies (Heidl), but the venerable BigO has integrated the scattershot quoting and typeface manipulation of real general manager's greatest poster. Just breathtaking work. Champions continue to be made in the off season.



I will take whatever credit I am given, even though I had no idea what the hell I was doing with the boldface, et al. All I know, is that with my limited time on earth, I can't continue to worry about typeface for more than a minute before I press the submit button.
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Post#1355 » by machu46 » Fri May 2, 2025 1:03 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:What a half by Beasley


Crazy to think how much 1 year difference makes for a roster. Beasley off the bench could’ve saved that whole series vs Indiana for us. He’s been lights out and on a mission for Detroit while we had to suffer through Taurean Prince and Kyle Kuzma being total negatives for 5 games. The Bucks aren’t a Malik Beasley away but he sure would’ve helped way more than those 2 bums.
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Post#1356 » by James1980 » Fri May 2, 2025 1:44 am

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1357 » by MickeyDavis » Fri May 2, 2025 1:58 am

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1358 » by blazza18 » Fri May 2, 2025 2:01 am

This foul for Brunson is ridiculous

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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1359 » by DingleJerry » Fri May 2, 2025 2:03 am

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DingleJerry wrote:
BigO wrote:Bobby was decent after the last couple months of his season and into the playoffs. More playable than Brook in that match-up & probably in general. But into his 30's now, w/ him forcing us to play one flawed style of d (switching), having posted mediocre efficiency in the playoffs, the shenanigans, & derisive comments about the city; I think I'm good.

If part of the retool is to bring him back & elevate him to full-time starter because of nostalgia or we can't do anything else w/ cap constraints, I become even stronger in preference to trade Giannis & rebuild. Cuz we're getting diminishing returns on what already had questionable efficacy.


I'm definitely on the trade Bobby side as well. He's one of our few assets someone else might actually want, hopefully can turn him and his salary into a more athletic/wing type person



There's been some bad posts, but the two above have to rank right up there. There's so much wrong with these posts that to keep it short, I'll only [b]take the top five:

1) BP will opt out, as he should, after being grossly underpaid for the last several years. He can just sign elsewhere.

2) BP was the third most valuable Buck this season and after Dame went down, he was the second most valuable. Efficient scorer (although I'll grant he didn't have an efficient series against the Pacers) and the only Buck after Dame and Giannis who regularly was doubled by other teams.

3) As Marques pointed out, he was part of the best defensive lineup the Bucks had. He has played good defense.

4) One of the best defensive rebounders in the NBA and the only Buck, other than Giannis, who is a good rebounder. And no, his rebounds aren't fake rebounds, which might rank as the dumbest comment I've read on here.


5) I have no idea what derisive comments about Milwaukee he supposedly made, but historically, he has been of the city's greatest ambassadors.
As to shananigans, just stop it. He's an emotional guy, but that makes him one of the teams leaders. I don't want to get rid of that. Too many marshmallows masquerading as posters.

Let me know if you want 5 more reasons. Bottom line is that if he leaves, there is another huge void in scoring and rebounding and many other things.
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LOL, what is crazy about my take to call it the worst one on the board? We have a 30ish year old who's good and one of our only assets, I'd be trying to get something for him when I can. I'm not bashing him, I'm saying he's fine/good and that's why I think we can get something good for him with a skillset that we need more. We really don't have anything else anyone would want, he's our only chip.

But yea if he opts and just leaves then that's it. I suppose if you can work out some kind of sign/trade that would be nice to get something back, again hopefully someone who's more of a wing/athlete. Which is what I'm talking about, embracing Giannis as the big and getting more athletic, younger, shooters around him. If they can't find anything that works, yea Bobby is fine to keep around as the other big on the team who makes any legit money. I don't blame him if he cashes out wherever he can though. But really, my main point is he's the only thing we have that anyone would want, so not many routs to do anything without him.

Buckle up, its gonna be a long offseason.[/quote]

I get your point, but you implied that you agreed with all the erroneous assumptions the other poster put forward.

And at this point, if you agree the Bucks have limited assets and a dearth of talent, why would you want to let one of your better players leave?

Right now, BP, in my view, is the second best player who will return next season (not counting Dame). That's not a good situation when BP is your second, or even third, best player.

But getting rid of him compounds the problem. You then have to find a scorer and rebounder to make up for losing him AND try to get more talent in the front court and at guard.[/quote]


To get a different player or players you think can help better or more. You know, like any trade one tries to make.

In this case, preferably one who doesn't overlap position areas with your current best player so you're trying to address the weaknesses on the team. In addition in this case, one who is younger and more athletic and not about to enter his 30s (and likely with an upcoming contract situation/increase) where a decline usually comes.

You're essentially advocating for just running it back. If we're going to shake it up and try to remake the team (which is the discussion we're all having here) its unavoidable that Bobby will be in the discussions on it because he has a legit contract to match up and he's actually good so teams will want him and ask about him. Ultimately if you can find other ways or you don't see something that makes sense he's fine to roll with, but he's going to be kicked around in tons of stuff if he's still in our control (as you said, might be out of our hands if he just bolts). If I'm him I take the biggest payday I can right now, no need to help us since he can't really win here anymore.
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Re: ATL - Bud Out in Phoenix 

Post#1360 » by MickeyDavis » Fri May 2, 2025 2:10 am

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