NBA - The Re-Open: - Connaughton has Covid-19, pg. 94

[FlagsFlyForever]

I completely understand why fans wouldn't want the NBA to play and I respect their reasons. But as fans, our opinion comes from a place where we don't have anything to lose. Everybody involved with the NBA has a ton to lose if their billion dollar industry craters.

[0BobLobLaw0]

How are the EPL, Bundasliga, Spain's permiera all able to have a non-bubble atmosphere and be seemingly fine virus spread wise?

[VooDoo7]

Whichever team wins the whole shebang this year will have an asterisk next to their name almost the size of the Houston Astros'.

[midranger]

How are the EPL, Bundasliga, Spain's permiera all able to have a non-bubble atmosphere and be seemingly fine virus spread wise?

'Merica

[emunney]

How are the EPL, Bundasliga, Spain's permiera all able to have a non-bubble atmosphere and be seemingly fine virus spread wise?

I'm not sure if this is a rhetorical question but I'll answer it as if it isn't. All those other places suppressed the virus with coordinated national responses before they began reopening. Our country did not.

Some states are doing ok and will be ok. Some states are not and will not.

[Pachinko_]

Can't believe any true Bucks fan is rooting for a shut down of the season right now. Waited my whole damn life for this opportunity and can't understand those ready to already pull the parachute.

Because whatever they say or do, the winner of this exhibition tourney they’re throwing out there with almost nba teams vs almost nba teams has close to nothing to do with the season we lost back in March. Guys are opting out. Guys are going down with Covid. There’s no fans. There’s no home court or playoff intensity.

If the Bucks win this exhibition tournament, cool. It’s not a title. As a fan, I almost would rather not see them win it. An empty arena celebration. A virtual parade. All sounds lame AF and certainly anti climatic. It sucks to lose a season, but it’s done. It’s lost. Only thing that will come from this is annoying never ending arguments on twitter and other mediums for the rest of time between the team that wins’ fans and everyone else on if this “championship” should have an asterisk or not.

I think when it's time for ECF game 7 against the Raptors or the Celtics you will forget about everything else.

[vegaspacker]

Yep, I am a bit torn between a dream and the potential gravity of the situation. I have worked throughout this **** storm reality... with or without proper PPE.

Vegas is definitely realizing a spike, but treatment strategies are greatly improved. Frankly, I think we have the highest percentage of true (whatever that means) positives to date in house. Testing is not yet standardized. Some patients get the fast results, others have to wait a few days for definitive results. Test availability and other factors are in play. My colleagues confirmed today that they do expect a few upcoming casualties.

I think by Tuesday/Wednesday a proclamation will made validating if this is in anyway doable.

The state of mind, for the players, has to mirror mine back in late March if the pandemic continues to ravage the US.

There has to be some serious 'lay down the sword and shield' or 'loyalty to the flag' synapses betwixt the axons and dendrites in each player's brain.

120-104.... Must win... Or maybe not.

Stay tuned....

[sidney lanier]

Can't believe any true Bucks fan is rooting for a shut down of the season right now. Waited my whole damn life for this opportunity and can't understand those ready to already pull the parachute.

Because the health of everyone involved is more important? You can't believe anyone is rooting for that?

Everyone would love things to go off smoothly. But everything is collapsing.

The NBA couldn't have anticipated the trajectory of the virus, but they have to acknowledge what's happening now throughout the country, and especially in Orange County, Florida (where Disney World is). This is the trend of cases there from the STAT Covid-19 Tracker:



OK, maybe the bubble will be virus-proof, but I doubt it. Time to reassess.

[tydett]

How are the EPL, Bundasliga, Spain's permiera all able to have a non-bubble atmosphere and be seemingly fine virus spread wise?

I'm not sure if this is a rhetorical question but I'll answer it as if it isn't. All those other places suppressed the virus with coordinated national responses before they began reopening. Our country did not.

Some states are doing ok and will be ok. Some states are not and will not.

Crazy how Germany can get its federalism down when it comes to natural disasters but we (who pretty much invented it) are impossibly bad, at best.

[RRyder823]

Can't believe any true Bucks fan is rooting for a shut down of the season right now. Waited my whole damn life for this opportunity and can't understand those ready to already pull the parachute.

Because the health of everyone involved is more important? You can't believe anyone is rooting for that?

Everyone would love things to go off smoothly. But everything is collapsing.

What exactly is "collapsing"?

Pretty much anyone with a brain stem couldve told you that once they started testing people in the NBA for it that more would test positive. (how that is being considered "shocking" to anyone is what should be suprising)

Teams shutting down practice facilities is what people would call a precaution

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[paulpressey25]

The NBA will have problems if Covid develops in the bubble in three weeks.

Right now though, about 30 guys now understand that they’ve got Covid, who wouldn’t otherwise. That’s not a bad thing.

And if they have Covid, they probably didn’t get it from working out at the center but from either being crazy unlucky or not engaging in safe behavior outside of the practice center.

Up to the players to figure out if they still want a league. Up to the NBA to see whether they are willing to invest the cash in a real bubble. Either one can derail this thing. Their choice.

[Chuck Diesel]

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Well I hope the bubble works because it's pretty much proven right now that guys outside the bubble guys will keep catching it.

I'm not sure how the 20/21 season is going to work.. or NFL or MLB at this point.



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[blazza18]

Whichever team wins the whole shebang this year will have an asterisk next to their name almost the size of the Houston Astros'.

How does this make sense at all?

[HKPackFan]

If you really want a bubble,( I know it will never happen) but they should consider isolated cities like: Macau, Hong Kong, Taiwan (Taipei).

Macau is the absolute safest bet. They had only 46 cases, 0 deaths, and they haven't had a case in 3 months. Schools are open, life is normal. They are a bubble because they are an island with only bridge access and their borders to the rest of the world are closed. (there is some land touching mainland china but the borders are strict, no one from China can enter).



Taipei and Hong Kong are reporting a small number of cases, but they are all imported and stopped at the airport and never make it to the city, so neither city has local infections spreading. So both are options as well as bubble cities. (Here in HK we go shopping, the beaches are full, F&B are all fully packed, the main pub streets are back to being full with crowds spilling onto the streets again).

Still Macau is the best with strict borders and no cases for months. They also have an arena can fit 10k to 15K people, and since it's a virus free city, you could have fans in attendance.

It's also an Asian Vegas with Casinos, lots of international cuisine and night life (only a fraction of the night life though). I'm sure the players would have lots of entertainment and they are free to walk around the whole city all night and not have social distancing worries. Families could join as well. (Of course every single person flying in would have to quarantine for 2 weeks before being allowed in public). Hotels everywhere so no shortage of rooms for family, players, trainers, etc.

The only thing would be the timezone. Players would have to either play night time (12hr time difference) and usa mornings or players have to play in the morning for USA night games. If players can adjust to playing at 8AM that's 8PM EST.

It's an actual bubble, and it's protected with it's strict borders. I think that's the only way to truly have a safe season and guarantee no one is getting infected.

[Daver]

My only question i have bout all of this is why Orlando being that the virus is really hot in florida.
Im sure money and housing were a big factor but i cant believe there were no other bubble cities available where tbe housing was adequate but the virus wasnt out of control.
From what i read Vegas doesnt seem to have a huge outbreak.

[All The Bucks]

Let's hope the apparent difference in this virus from earlier this year to now is real. Despite all the positive test cases, the deaths just don't seem to be following after weeks of predicted spikes. The CDC is nearing the threshold where it will remove the classification of Covid-19 as a pandemic. That's where my hope rests that not only will this season be completed, but also that the worst is behind us as a species. For some reason you never hear the daily death totals anywhere anymore but I think many of you would be shocked at the current numbers. Down 93% from the peak and have been declining for 10 straight weeks.

[jute2003]

Just cancel the season already and get ready for next.

There uh, isn’t going to be any next season unless the league and players figure out if they can even make a bubble environment work.

The vaccine from Oxford is looking very promising and may be out before next season, but there are no guarantees at this time.

The NBA expected people to test positive before Orlando and even in Orlando. They will continue to move forward unless they can't.

Yeah, it would have been more shocking if they weren't finding positives. It could still implode but the few positive cases right now aren't stopping anything.

[EastSideBucksFan]

The NBA will have problems if Covid develops in the bubble in three weeks.

Right now though, about 30 guys now understand that they’ve got Covid, who wouldn’t otherwise. That’s not a bad thing.

And if they have Covid, they probably didn’t get it from working out at the center but from either being crazy unlucky or not engaging in safe behavior outside of the practice center.

Up to the players to figure out if they still want a league. Up to the NBA to see whether they are willing to invest the cash in a real bubble. Either one can derail this thing. Their choice.

Here's the problem with the Bucks/NBA protocol and why it will likely infect the bubble

So, they just found a positive test in the Bucks crew of players/coaches/staff. So, that one person or multiple people stay back in Milwaukee to quarantine until they are able to produce two negative tests. Sounds, ok, so far.

But, then the rest of the team/party is sent down to Orlando under the assumption that nobody else will test positive in the coming days. It takes anywhere from 3-14 days to produce a positive test after being exposed. It's highly unlikely that the positive person in the Bucks party gave it to zero people in the rest of the practice environment.

So, they are basically, blindly, sending potential future positives into the bubble by not quarantining the entire team/party.

I want to see this season continue more than anything, I just don't know how this is going to actually work.

[dbrodz7]

The NBA will have problems if Covid develops in the bubble in three weeks.

Right now though, about 30 guys now understand that they’ve got Covid, who wouldn’t otherwise. That’s not a bad thing.

And if they have Covid, they probably didn’t get it from working out at the center but from either being crazy unlucky or not engaging in safe behavior outside of the practice center.

Up to the players to figure out if they still want a league. Up to the NBA to see whether they are willing to invest the cash in a real bubble. Either one can derail this thing. Their choice.

Here's the problem with the Bucks/NBA protocol and why it will likely infect the bubble

So, they just found a positive test in the Bucks crew of players/coaches/staff. So, that one person or multiple people stay back in Milwaukee to quarantine until they are able to produce two negative tests. Sounds, ok, so far.

But, then the rest of the team/party is sent down to Orlando under the assumption that nobody else will test positive in the coming days. It takes anywhere from 3-14 days to produce a positive test after being exposed. It's highly unlikely that the positive person in the Bucks party gave it to zero people in the rest of the practice environment.

So, they are basically, blindly, sending potential future positives into the bubble by not quarantining the entire team/party.

I want to see this season continue more than anything, I just don't know how this is going to actually work.

I thought they all have to quarantine until they produce negative tests once they are in the bubble? As in stay in their hotel rooms.