Ford: Jennings #2 most likely to be moved

[raws]

Burks is awful and if we straight up trade BJ3 for him, I will quit my fandom and become a front-running Heat fan.

[ReasonablySober]

Dwyer has a take on Jennings and Milwaukee. Nothing new.

[drew881]

Would Orlando consider:

Jennings/Dalembert/Udrih
for
Afflalo/Vucevic/Nelson

We save them a ton of money that they can use to extend Jennings, we get our two young pieces, still make our playoff run, and trade Jameer down the line.

[ReasonablySober]

Would Orlando consider:

Jennings/Dalembert/Udrih
for
Afflalo/Vucevic/Nelson

We save them a ton of money that they can use to extend Jennings, we get our two young pieces, still make our playoff run, and trade Jameer down the line.

[LUKE23]

No chance Orlando does that. Take a glance at Vucevic's numbers. He's probably as good of a prospect as Henson is, if not better.

[sneakerdust]

Jennings for Teague/19.

Ellis for Frye/Wes Johnson/13.

I just ask what do we get with #13 or 19? not much and those players are middling too.

You have to take a chance/get lucky to have access to an impact player. Mayo is.

You have a dwindling asset for the next 8 days. Take a shot at relevance. Those other players you
can get anytime. Now if were talking a top 5 pick with a shot at an Oladipo, you roll with that. Under new CBA those are gold though even harder to get.

If you always have an inferiority complex you'll never get anywhere anyways. You have to believe you can keep someone if they can see you up close.

[htr]

No Burks love? I think he has a brighter future than Jennings, is cheaper, and plays better team ball. I don't think Vucevic will be parted with by Orlando. Sub in Harkless maybe.. I like it though.

[LUKE23]

You'd rather take just Mayo than get a solid PG on RFA status and a 1st rounder? We can sign Mayo without trading for him. He's going to go where the money is. A mini 30 game stint with a mediocre team isn't going to sway him to take less in Milwaukee.

[drew881]

No chance Orlando does that. Take a glance at Vucevic's numbers.

Yeah, I did. They are also a crappy team and we have had our share of players put up big numbers on losing teams. Sessions comes to mind. I wonder if you sweetened the pot with say Henson if it would change things. They can drive their tank a bit harder with Jennings at the wheel and no support for the rest of the season and land a top five pick.

[DH34Phan]

No chance Orlando does that. Take a glance at Vucevic's numbers. He's probably as good of a prospect as Henson is, if not better.

I don't know if it's because Orlando is awful, but Vucevic has impressive numbers.

Jennings/ Udoh/ Dalembert for Vucevic /Redick /Nelson.

[jimmybones]

Unless they move the NBA season to summer, the only way any player will ever want to play in Milwaukee is if we can contend and I'm not talking 8th seeds.

I don't think Jennings would be pushing his way out if this team wasn't so sad and directionless.

Of course it's about the team. The Brewers don't have this problem.

[LUKE23]

If we included Henson then I wouldn't do it.

Between DAL/ATL/ORL, these are the pieces I'm interested in:

DAL: 1st if it can be re-routed, Crowder as a throw in but not primary piece
ATL: Teague, Jenkins, #17, #19
ORL: Harkless, 2014 NYK/DEN 1st, 2015 PHI 1st, Redick (but not as primary piece), Nicholson, Vucevic (they won't move him)

I have no interest in adding over age 25 long-term veteran salary as the primary piece in any deal (see Afflalo).

[mlloyd10]

Got to love the ESPN trade board.

There's a Bucks fan on there that wouldn't do Dudley/Gortat/Lakers 1ast for Jennings/Daly

Am i crazy?

[sneakerdust]

Would Orlando consider:

Jennings/Dalembert/Udrih
for
Afflalo/Vucevic/Nelson

We save them a ton of money that they can use to extend Jennings, we get our two young pieces, still make our playoff run, and trade Jameer down the line.

We have role players to get young long shots mid/late round draft picks from other playoff teams. Teams want
an ellis, dalembert, beno, dunleavy, for their bench for a run.

We have so many players in that range - we need some impact and to do that we need to take a chance. I got Mayo as that chance but maybe there is something else. Irs a hard situation I admit. Tell Jennings agent to find that deal or well match his stupid Lin like contract next summer.

[whatthe_buck!?]

Jennings for Teague/19.

Ellis for Frye/Wes Johnson/13.

I just ask what do we get with #13 or 19? not much and those players are middling too.

You have to take a chance/get lucky to have access to an impact player. Mayo is.

You have a dwindling asset for the next 8 days. Take a shot at relevance. Those other players you
can get anytime. Now if were talking a top 5 pick with a shot at an Oladipo, you roll with that. Under new CBA those are gold though even harder to get.

If you always have an inferiority complex you'll never get anywhere anyways. You have to believe you can keep someone if they can see you up close.

The teams we would be trading with turn down both of those deals before we would. And there's no way were getting a top 5 pick for either Ellis or BJ. I would be estatic with either one...

[sneakerdust]

You'd rather take just Mayo than get a solid PG on RFA status and a 1st rounder? We can sign Mayo without trading for him. He's going to go where the money is. A mini 30 game stint with a mediocre team isn't going to sway him to take less in Milwaukee.

Yep I'd do it. Beno is a "solid" PG well have (like every year) a mid/late 1st rounder. Look where were at.

[LUKE23]

Yep I'd do it. Beno is a "solid" PG well have (like every year) a mid/late 1st rounder. Look where were at.

So you'd rather have just Mayo than Teague and either the ATL/BKN 1st rounder if you could pick one?

[Badgerlander]

Jennings for Teague/19.

Ellis for Frye/Wes Johnson/13.

I just ask what do we get with #13 or 19?

Poythress, Goodwin, Porter, Burke

[raysbookclub]

sections from Dwyer on Jennings and markets, Boylan, and the Bucks' possible future roster http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball- ... --nba.html

The “bigger market” thing always confounds me. I can understand wanting to enjoy a bigger city – and this is coming from a writer that very much loves Milwaukee – but what does a bigger market have to do with Brandon Jennings’ production? I’m sorry, is it Milwaukee’s small market that has you shooting less than 40 percent from the field this year? Or shooting under 40 percent for the third time in your four-year career? Would Jennings earn more respect from the refs and get to the line more than 3.8 times per 36 minutes if he played for the Knicks?

Honestly, Brandon Jennings is one of the few players in this league that has a memorable endorsement deal with a shoe company, and he’s managed that in spite of his status as a Milwaukee Buck, and in spite of his (to be frank) solid play that still falls a few giant paces behind that of NBA All-Stars. Brandon Jennings has the ball quite a bit, he gets to shoot a lot, he gets the green light on three-pointers despite being average in that category, he rarely gets to the free throw line, and he’s ranked 16th in the NBA in assists per game. He is nowhere near star-caliber, and hasn’t made a huge year-to-year jump yet in any of the NBA seasons since his rookie campaign.

...

As it was when the Chicago Bulls fired Skiles in 2007 and kept his lead assistant in Jim Boylan around, the Bucks are still mainly running Skiles-bred sets with little difference between the two save for the tiresome Scott Skiles glares and more time for Ersan Ilyasova. Boylan is a respected basketball mind that works his tail off, but he’s split his 18 games as coach just as Skiles split his 32 games as coach earlier in the year. Why the Bucks didn’t learn from Chicago’s wasted 60 percent of a season in 2007-08 and go for a voice that didn’t approximate Skiles is beyond us.

And this could be why Jennings, probably and if so rightfully, wants out. Talking about big market dreams and increased attention toward his inefficient per game stats (be careful what you wish for, Brandon) sounds like where Jennings has gone, on record, for a while now. Overall, though, the guy just might want a break. To be free from a squad that seemingly has been chasing the eighth seed in the playoffs since Jennings’ rookie year.

...

The free agent class is weak this summer, and teams will probably end up overpaying someone like Jennings – and the Bucks will have to decide if they want a still-ticked Jennings working for a franchise he didn’t choose, under terms of a contract that some other front office talked itself into. It’s true that Jennings once dug Milwaukee and compared it to Italy, but this is the same guy that left Italy after one year.

After years of clogging contracts, the Bucks actually have some room to work in the offseason. Monta Ellis and Ersan Ilyasova will combine to make $18.9 million next year (assuming Ellis opts into the last year of his deal, which isn’t a guarantee even given the market), but the squad could pass on Jennings, watch as Samuel Dalembert and Beno Udrih go away, sign Mike Dunleavy Jr. (already one of the NBA’s better contracts) to a reasonable rate, and use the amnesty provision to say goodbye to the final two years and $13.3 million left on Drew Gooden’s deal.

The team could have just $26 million on the books even with Ellis opting in, and develop an asset rich roster as a go-between while working with teams trying to either shed salary or land a star. And very little of this is possible if they match a maximum offer for Jennings services

[tski1972]

someone on the Magic board posted this...

MagicalNBA ‏@MagicalNBA
Bucks offered Jennings in a JJ trade. Hennigan said no. Smart.