Giannis Thread - 2 Time MVP - The Contract discussions

[th87]

Giannis was at Cafe Benelux last night and got into a shouting match with “fans” who wouldn’t take no for an answer regarding taking a picture. Kept saying “he doesn’t owe anyone anything” over and over

Eww fans. Show some dignity.

How loud? How long?

It’s unfortunate that people don’t know how to behave in public. Let alone among the most known person in Milwaukee right now.

It was a 5 minute ordeal. A manager had to go separate the two groups and tell the guys who were asking him for photos to leave

At least it got squashed eventually.

To those worried about this, I'm sure this is not the first and last time he'll have to deal with dumb-dumbs interrupting his drinks/meal, and I highly doubt this affects his FAcy decision (plus it's a nice place to chill, so I'm sure he settled in).

Now if he runs into a group of Albanians at a club, then I don't know.

[Pachinko_]

I hope it did bother him a lot
because the next logical thought is OMG if it can get that bad in MKE with fans etc imagine how bad it can get in LA and NY

[Fotis St]

I'm guessing the luxury tax might have come up in the meeting.

I'd honestly say it's more likely that Giannis says he doesn't want any key players traded (unless it's s no-brainer) than it is that he would threaten to leave. He seems like the type who would want his guys to have a shot at redemption.

If he did specifically say what he thinks the Bucks should change, it was probably stupid stuff anyway. Like trade for Kostas and hire Mark Jackson as POBO or something.

Please , Giannis should say the exact opposite thing , omg , I hope you are wrong...

There should be an honest talk ... Smith on TNT said it right ... we fell short last year from Toronto due to a wall etc and we did NOT improve at anything this year at the playoffs.

Giannis did't get increased playoff minutes.
Giannis lost his confidence at the FT line.
Our coach still uses 2019 X & Os , not a single try to adapt and create a different playoff offensive system.

We aren't winning **** next season , if we don't make moves ... we have to risk and take some swing for the fences with some trades, since as said , this team has hit his ceiling and is actually regressing

[Beorn]

Jesus, I am going to make to printscreen this post and share it with friends, they still laugh when they recall the time you mentioned as possible Greek NT callups Fotsis (who was 40yo at the time and playing in his neighborhood, regional-league club) and Apostolidis (who never became a starter in any of the **** Greek A1 teams, and was playing in the 2nd division at the time of the post)
Or the time you were comparing Chrysikopoulos with Larry Bird in another board


Of all the players you mentioned it this post, only Papapetrou is a starting Euroleague player, and Sasa is an excellent shooter who can't guard Yi's chair.
None else can be trusted to play consistently 15 mins in a competitive EL team, sadly:
Thanasis is a BCL-level player, Mitoglou and Papajohn have some potential but their were net negatives last year in their limited roles, Koniaris was a terrible guard who couldn't dribble or pass and won't be part of Olympiakos' team next year, Bochoridis failed miserably in Panathinaikos and has been moderately successfull in relegation-zone greek teams, Agravanis is a moron who was an average Eurocup player last year after being the 5th big of Olympiakos for a couple of years, Larentzakis has been a consistently mediocre guy in BCL who flopped in a below average spanish team last season, Athinaiou -despite being healthy- played in less than half of his team's games in his 2-year euroleague tenure, while Nikolaidis and Kalaitzakis have played 25 mins of EL basketball TOGETHER, and that only because Nikolaidis was forced to play in the senior Oly team because they had 7 active players at some point of the season. Poku has not played to a level above the 2nd greek division yet

It's very clear that you have never seen a EuroLeague game. It's also very clear you have zero knowledge about any Greek basketball players. I remember previous threads with you talking about the "young Greek players" and you were wrong on literally every single player and prediction you made, while I was right on every single one. Why don't you show your friends all those great predictions you made about young Greek players in previous threads, that turned out totally wrong in every instance.

No way have you ever seen a EuroLeague game.

You also are taking things said by others out of context and taking the concept of moving the goal posts to a very high level. I doubt if you have ever seen a Greek player play, if they were not wearing a Bucks jersey. I doubt if you even have seen a non Bucks NBA game.

FYI, I am both greek and an Olympiakos season ticket holder mate
Take your trash baiting attempts somewhere else

[AussieBuck]

Jesus, I am going to make to printscreen this post and share it with friends, they still laugh when they recall the time you mentioned as possible Greek NT callups Fotsis (who was 40yo at the time and playing in his neighborhood, regional-league club) and Apostolidis (who never became a starter in any of the **** Greek A1 teams, and was playing in the 2nd division at the time of the post)
Or the time you were comparing Chrysikopoulos with Larry Bird in another board


Of all the players you mentioned it this post, only Papapetrou is a starting Euroleague player, and Sasa is an excellent shooter who can't guard Yi's chair.
None else can be trusted to play consistently 15 mins in a competitive EL team, sadly:
Thanasis is a BCL-level player, Mitoglou and Papajohn have some potential but their were net negatives last year in their limited roles, Koniaris was a terrible guard who couldn't dribble or pass and won't be part of Olympiakos' team next year, Bochoridis failed miserably in Panathinaikos and has been moderately successfull in relegation-zone greek teams, Agravanis is a moron who was an average Eurocup player last year after being the 5th big of Olympiakos for a couple of years, Larentzakis has been a consistently mediocre guy in BCL who flopped in a below average spanish team last season, Athinaiou -despite being healthy- played in less than half of his team's games in his 2-year euroleague tenure, while Nikolaidis and Kalaitzakis have played 25 mins of EL basketball TOGETHER, and that only because Nikolaidis was forced to play in the senior Oly team because they had 7 active players at some point of the season. Poku has not played to a level above the 2nd greek division yet

It's very clear that you have never seen a EuroLeague game. It's also very clear you have zero knowledge about any Greek basketball players. I remember previous threads with you talking about the "young Greek players" and you were wrong on literally every single player and prediction you made, while I was right on every single one. Why don't you show your friends all those great predictions you made about young Greek players in previous threads, that turned out totally wrong in every instance.

No way have you ever seen a EuroLeague game.

You also are taking things said by others out of context and taking the concept of moving the goal posts to a very high level. I doubt if you have ever seen a Greek player play, if they were not wearing a Bucks jersey. I doubt if you even have seen a non Bucks NBA game.

FYI, I am both greek and an Olympiakos season ticket holder mate
Take your trash baiting attempts somewhere else

He say's this to everyone when they call him out on not understanding anything about basketball. Also a Greek Giannis hater so you know he aint right.

[Bucksfan28]

I hope it did bother him a lot
because the next logical thought is OMG if it can get that bad in MKE with fans etc imagine how bad it can get in LA and NY

Bingo.

[greekbuck34]

If he leaves (he has every right to do what he wants) he's going to get so much **** lol. He would be viewed as KD 2.0.

Maybe ownership got pressured by Giannis, but maybe they also put the pressure on him to go out and recruit someone? Idk just trying to think of what they met about.

Nobody will get as much **** as KD again. KD supposed to be the best player in the league and joined the (73win)team he was leading with 3-1 in the WCF just to get a ring leaving behind Westbrook at his prime. Something similar for Giannis would have been joining Toronto last season if they have kept Kawhi.

And even despite all that KD is still considered the best player in the league because he got two rings as a player on a team that it was imposimple to double team him or deny him the ball without paying the price( Curry/Klay making a 3).

[Mattatron]

LeBron/Cavs situation all over again. The main question Giannis is if they wanna pay luxury tax (ownership) to get a better roster (but the options are limited) and the FO wants security if he stays and re-sign. Because they will not want to pay luxury tax if he leaves a year later and stucked with those contracts.... Very tricky.

[Mattatron]

I hope it did bother him a lot
because the next logical thought is OMG if it can get that bad in MKE with fans etc imagine how bad it can get in LA and NY

Bingo.

Pretty sure he knows that already. No need for a situation like this.

[Bucksfan28]

I hope it did bother him a lot
because the next logical thought is OMG if it can get that bad in MKE with fans etc imagine how bad it can get in LA and NY

Bingo.

Pretty sure he knows that already. No need for a situation like this.

No one is calling it a necessary experience.

[dbrodz7]

I just woke up from a dream where the Bucks came back from down 3-1 to beat Lebron’s Lakers in the finals and I don’t know that I’ve ever been so overjoyed and crushed to wake up to reality.

[jimmybones]

I hope it did bother him a lot
because the next logical thought is OMG if it can get that bad in MKE with fans etc imagine how bad it can get in LA and NY

This is where my head went. How would that interaction have ended in Philly after a disappointing playoff exit? (Not that Philly is a real destination for him, but insert any East Coast city)

[StickeeFingaz]

Questionable source so take that into account, but a little more info on supposedly what the meeting was about: https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/bucks-antetokounmpo-meeting

"Antetokounmpo did not request a trade during the meeting, but rather used it as an opportunity to express "a desire to be in a winning culture with a team that displays a willingness to be untraditional in their approach to building a title team," per Brandon Robinson of Heavy.com."

One other thing I noticed from the original Haynes article was this line: "The Bucks are committed to building and sustaining a championship roster around Antetokounmpo and are expected to be one of the busiest teams this offseason."

[jimmybones]

One other thing I noticed from the original Haynes article was this line: "The Bucks are committed to building and sustaining a championship roster around Antetokounmpo and are expected to be one of the busiest teams this offseason."

Hope so because ignoring the playoff shortcomings and referencing the regular season success to bring the band back is my nightmare.

[machu46]

Questionable source so take that into account, but a little more info on supposedly what the meeting was about: https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/bucks-antetokounmpo-meeting

"Antetokounmpo did not request a trade during the meeting, but rather used it as an opportunity to express "a desire to be in a winning culture with a team that displays a willingness to be untraditional in their approach to building a title team," per Brandon Robinson of Heavy.com."

One other thing I noticed from the original Haynes article was this line: "The Bucks are committed to building and sustaining a championship roster around Antetokounmpo and are expected to be one of the busiest teams this offseason."

FWIW, Brandon Robinson (the guy Amico pulled that info from) is saying Giannis to the Knicks or Lakers soooooo not sure he's a good source lol

[msiris]

The obsession for small market stars to leave their teams needs to stop.

Do these dopes really want a league with 4 stacked teams and then a bunch of garbage?


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Only the the small market fans can change that. If Giannis leaves I am pretty sure I am done watching the NBA. We the fans have a choice.

[tydett]

Questionable source so take that into account, but a little more info on supposedly what the meeting was about: https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/bucks-antetokounmpo-meeting

"Antetokounmpo did not request a trade during the meeting, but rather used it as an opportunity to express "a desire to be in a winning culture with a team that displays a willingness to be untraditional in their approach to building a title team," per Brandon Robinson of Heavy.com."

One other thing I noticed from the original Haynes article was this line: "The Bucks are committed to building and sustaining a championship roster around Antetokounmpo and are expected to be one of the busiest teams this offseason."

FWIW, Brandon Robinson (the guy Amico pulled that info from) is saying Giannis to the Knicks or Lakers soooooo not sure he's a good source lol

Yeah, Amico is a fraud, and when you think of "winning culture with untraditional approach", you definitely think of the Knicks and Lakers.

[coolhandluke121]

Not sure I believe a word of that, but "nontraditional approach" actually sounds like NOT wanting to trade for another star or "sell out" in any way. I think he wants to maintain the one superstar model with balanced support. All indications have always pointed to that, with absolutely NO contrary evidence that I'm aware of.

Today it occurred to me that ownership probably just needed to know what type of moves Giannis would be okay with, and Giannis felt the need to tell them what he wants and how he feels.

[StickeeFingaz]

Guys, I prefaced my post saying it was a questionable source.

I didn’t go to Northwestern or Syracuse for journalism but I understand sources need to be evaluated and questioned.

[tydett]

Guys, I prefaced my post saying it was a questionable source.

I didn’t go to Northwestern or Syracuse for journalism but I understand sources need to be evaluated and questioned.

Yep, intention was not to flame you for posting source, just to question veracity of "source's" "material"