OT: TV and Movies

[Ron Swanson]

I get how Season 2 turned off a lot of people from the series and IMO it was by far the weakest of the four, but if you like good sci-fi, I think you're doing yourself a tremendous disservice by not sticking with it. Seasons 3&4 may as well be a standalone series with how different they are from 1&2. It still has its overtly philosophical mind **** type moments, but it's much easier to follow.

[BUCKnation]

S1 of westworld was top tier tv. If you can't get into that, you may as well just pass on the rest, most of which could probably be skipped outside of S4. Hell, even the writers did their best to barely acknowledge S3.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Everything Everywhere All At Once... Seems to be critically praised but I just didn't like it. I don't really get what the fuss was about. I found it hard to follow and just not that interesting.

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It was just an absolute delight for me. Had a smile on my face at all the crazy and corny stuff they threw in there (like the Story of a Girl lyrics). Ended up renting it a second time because I enjoyed it so much. Probably my 2nd favorite movie of the year behind only Top Gun.

I know I need to give new series time but I lost interest in Westworld quickly and never went back. Considering giving it another shot since it's 4 seasons in.

If you lost interest during Season 1, I probably wouldn't bother with it. Season 4 has been a return to almost as good as Season 1 was, but Season 1 was still comfortably the peak.

I think your reaction/view of the movie are more the norm than mine. People seem to love this movie. I'm usually a pretty easy judge of movies and that's why I was kind of surprised I just didn't dig this one.

Might be as simple as I'm pretty hard on cheesy/absurd, that very rarely works for my sense of humor.

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[HaroldinGMinor]

I know I need to give new series time but I lost interest in Westworld quickly and never went back. Considering giving it another shot since it's 4 seasons in.

FWIW I'm enjoying the current season much more than season 3.

[machu46]

Everything Everywhere All At Once... Seems to be critically praised but I just didn't like it. I don't really get what the fuss was about. I found it hard to follow and just not that interesting.

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It was just an absolute delight for me. Had a smile on my face at all the crazy and corny stuff they threw in there (like the Story of a Girl lyrics). Ended up renting it a second time because I enjoyed it so much. Probably my 2nd favorite movie of the year behind only Top Gun.

I know I need to give new series time but I lost interest in Westworld quickly and never went back. Considering giving it another shot since it's 4 seasons in.

If you lost interest during Season 1, I probably wouldn't bother with it. Season 4 has been a return to almost as good as Season 1 was, but Season 1 was still comfortably the peak.

I think your reaction/view of the movie are more the norm than mine. People seem to love this movie. I'm usually a pretty easy judge of movies and that's why I was kind of surprised I just didn't dig this one.

Might be as simple as I'm pretty hard on cheesy/absurd, that very rarely works for my sense of humor.

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Yeah that sounds like pretty much the absolute wrong movie for you then lol

[machu46]

I get how Season 2 turned off a lot of people from the series and IMO it was by far the weakest of the four, but if you like good sci-fi, I think you're doing yourself a tremendous disservice by not sticking with it. Seasons 3&4 may as well be a standalone series with how different they are from 1&2. It still has its overtly philosophical mind **** type moments, but it's much easier to follow.

Season 4 was so relatively easy to follow that I got caught expecting more of a twist at some point

[HaroldinGMinor]

The great thing (or worst thing) about Westworld:

Spoiler:

you can never really kill off a character for good. They can always come back as a host.

[ReasonablySober]

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Shoddy CGI piranhas not withstanding, this actually looks pretty great.

[Ron Swanson]

I feel like they missed a perfect opportunity to cast Millie Bobby Brown in that role 3-4 years ago, but Luis Guzman as Gomez is awesome. I loved the Sonnenfeld movies when I was a kid, so I'll probably check it out.

[WeekapaugGroove]

It was just an absolute delight for me. Had a smile on my face at all the crazy and corny stuff they threw in there (like the Story of a Girl lyrics). Ended up renting it a second time because I enjoyed it so much. Probably my 2nd favorite movie of the year behind only Top Gun.



If you lost interest during Season 1, I probably wouldn't bother with it. Season 4 has been a return to almost as good as Season 1 was, but Season 1 was still comfortably the peak.

I think your reaction/view of the movie are more the norm than mine. People seem to love this movie. I'm usually a pretty easy judge of movies and that's why I was kind of surprised I just didn't dig this one.

Might be as simple as I'm pretty hard on cheesy/absurd, that very rarely works for my sense of humor.

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Yeah that sounds like pretty much the absolute wrong movie for you then lol

Ha yeah my love of going into movies/shows completely blind burns me from time to time.

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[emunney]

Yeah, Paper Girls is **** great. Shout out to Mantzoukas. I had a total blast with this one.

[MoreTrife]

BCS

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I acknowledged in previous posts how difficult it was going to be for Gilligan and Gould to wrap this up considering the weight of both BB and BCS... unfortunately I don't think they stuck the landing. I could see what they were trying to do, all the talk of regrets throughout Saul's time. But I don't find it believable. There's been so much shocking fallout from Saul's decisions that DIDN'T make him say "oh my God, what have I don't". Things like Chuck's death, Howard's death, dozens and dozens of smaller ****. Didn't make Saul think twice. He was an irredeemable piece of ****. I didn't find his come to Jesus moment believable.
I was excited when it seemed like he was going to try and **** over Kim. I was hoping that she was going to be the last person he tried to throw under the bus... But she's smarter than him and somehow turns the tables. I don't know how they would have done that but this whole I found my redemption bull didn't land with me.

[Plossum]

BCS

Spoiler:

I acknowledged in previous posts how difficult it was going to be for Gilligan and Gould to wrap this up considering the weight of both BB and BCS... unfortunately I don't think they stuck the landing. I could see what they were trying to do, all the talk of regrets throughout Saul's time. But I don't find it believable. There's been so much shocking fallout from Saul's decisions that DIDN'T make him say "oh my God, what have I don't". Things like Chuck's death, Howard's death, dozens and dozens of smaller ****. Didn't make Saul think twice. He was an irredeemable piece of ****. I didn't find his come to Jesus moment believable.
I was excited when it seemed like he was going to try and **** over Kim. I was hoping that she was going to be the last person he tried to throw under the bus... But she's smarter than him and somehow turns the tables. I don't know how they would have done that but this whole I found my redemption bull didn't land with me.

Spoiler:

I don’t know if I misread the big mea culpa court scene but for me it wasn’t very complimentary to Saul at all. I didn’t buy the whole redemption story that many others interpreted it as.

For me I thought it just reinforced what a narcissist Saul is/had become. He was ready to lie through his teeth to get the reduced sentence until he heard that Kim had come clean about her role in Howard’s death.

He then sets in place another con to one up Kim (including by lying about her involvement in Howard’s death to get her in the court room to see his show!!) and ensure all eyes are on him and that gets the have the grand redemption/mea culpa.

I dunno, I’m prob wrong but Saul had gone the same way as Walter by the end and was a pretty terrible person.

[DingleJerry]

Spoiler:

BCS
[spoiler]I acknowledged in previous posts how difficult it was going to be for Gilligan and Gould to wrap this up considering the weight of both BB and BCS... unfortunately I don't think they stuck the landing. I could see what they were trying to do, all the talk of regrets throughout Saul's time. But I don't find it believable. There's been so much shocking fallout from Saul's decisions that DIDN'T make him say "oh my God, what have I don't". Things like Chuck's death, Howard's death, dozens and dozens of smaller ****. Didn't make Saul think twice. He was an irredeemable piece of ****. I didn't find his come to Jesus moment believable.
I was excited when it seemed like he was going to try and **** over Kim. I was hoping that she was going to be the last person he tried to throw under the bus... But she's smarter than him and somehow turns the tables. I don't know how they would have done that but this whole I found my redemption bull didn't land with me.

Spoiler:

I don’t know if I misread the big mea culpa court scene but for me it wasn’t very complimentary to Saul at all. I didn’t buy the whole redemption story that many others interpreted it as.

For me I thought it just reinforced what a narcissist Saul is/had become. He was ready to lie through his teeth to get the reduced sentence until he heard that Kim had come clean about her role in Howard’s death.

He then sets in place another con to one up Kim (including by lying about her involvement in Howard’s death to get her in the court room to see his show!!) and ensure all eyes are on him and that gets the have the grand redemption/mea culpa.

I dunno, I’m prob wrong but Saul had gone the same way as Walter by the end and was a pretty terrible person.

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Spoiler:

One thing that popped in my head too was that it likely wasn't needed. From what I understood, she didn't take the Sandpiper money. They'd basically said she wouldn't be criminally liable for anything. So it would just be a civil thing from Howard's wife. First, would the wife even do it since she's filthy rich already and kim made the big apology, came clean, etc. And if she did, Kim basically didn't have anything for the wife to take anyway?

But it was a good clean ending. Maybe I'd have preferred something a bit more ambitious but overall it was perfectly solid/fine. Biggest thing shows have to avoid is trying to do too much in finales, leading to being bashed as terrible. They avoided that and did perfectly fine.

One other thing, I guess I didn't notice it had only been two years since he met walter? Guess I never thought about it but it seemed he'd been out in NE for longer at that point. Like, he couldn't even keep his nose out of a hustle for more than a few months since he got to NE. Perhaps someone as smart as him it would've been more believable to wait a few more years before he got that bored.

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[MickeyDavis]

Early reviews for House of the Dragon are pretty bad. I'll check it out anyway

[BUCKnation]

Big time wait and see from me for anything GoT related. While I'm not as harsh on the ending as others, I was never super enthralled with the show.

[buckboy]

When GoT followed the source material it was among the best shows I've ever seen. When they ran out of material the show was pretty terrible. I expect this series to be terrible but I'll give it a shot.

[WRau1]

Yup, when GoT had GRRM to guide them, it was probably a top 5 show of all time. Without him, was worse than Heroes s2. I have no confidence in anything in that world unless it's 100% overseen by GRRM.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Yup, when GoT had GRRM to guide them, it was probably a top 5 show of all time. Without him, was worse than Heroes s2. I have no confidence in anything in that world unless it's 100% overseen by GRRM.

All true but kind of surprised it played out that way. I read all the books before starting the show and I thought aspects of the book were going to be really hard to do right on TV and staying too close would be detrimental to the show. Specifically the more in your mind fantasy stuff like the kids taking over the dire wolves minds and pretty much the whole Bran arc. The show skipped most of the dire wolf stuff. Bran was a mixed bag, he never really worked in the show and the writers seemed to phase him out mid way but then brought that story back and made him the ultimate winner, I think they did this to try to stay close to the book because he's an important character there but in my opinion since GRRM didn't finish the books they didn't need to do that and should have just did their own thing emphasizing the characters that worked best on TV.

Kind of felt like the show runners just wanted to be done and half assed the final couple seasons. More than any one thing the whole production and writing seemed lazy and rushed.

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